cmh6476 1,025 Posted July 18, 2006 trent green will throw for -40- TDs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red White and Blue 81 Posted July 18, 2006 1. Peyton Manning: they will lean on Manning to the tune of 4500 yards and 40 TD's.2. Duante Culpepper: NFL Comeback Player of the Year will play all 16 games. While he will not eclipse his fantasy record setting season of 2004, he will throw for 3800 yards, 29 TD's, and run for 350 yards and 5-6 scores. 3. Matt Hasselbeck: Good for 4000 yards and 28 TD's 4. Carson Palmer: His points per game will make him even higher. 5. Tom Brady: the greatest QB to ever play the game, will still put up 3800 yards and 25 TD's with a mediocre (at best) set of WR's (and thats if Branch signs!) 6. Aaron Brooks: He landed in the best scenario possible his big arm and mobility will elad to a ton of long scores to Moss and Porter. 7. Eli Manning: He will play all 16 games. 8. Ben Rothlesberger: Not the greatest pressure player of all time, but still talented and well protected and surrounded by a great cast and lots of scoring opportunities. 9. Jon Kitna: Will be a borderline Pro Bowler in '06. He is a good QB, but will have to win the job first, which i think he will. 10. Marc Bulger: would rank much higher if his protection would be better and he could stay healthy. Could rank in top 4 in points per game. Most likely backup to succeed: Matt Schaub (he may take the job is Vick struggles) Starter gaurenteed to get hurt: Kurt Warner Best rookie: Matt Leinhart biggest bust: JP losman 1. Can't argue with Manning. 2. I'm not nearly so high on CPepp - maybe top 10 but I can't see that kind of production. He looked terrible last year and he's coming off a serious injury and going to a lesser offense. 3-5. All three belong on this list but I'd maybe have Brady at #3 and Palmer should be downgraded until his injury status is clearer. 6. Excellent sleeper pic. 7. Meh. Too high. Throws too many INTs, low completion %. 8. One of the best QBs in the game but not a real fantasy stud, esp. with the offseason losses. 9. Again, ballsy pic but I just don't see it. Kitna has never been that great and the Lions' offense can make any QB look bad. I think McCown is going to end up starting at some point. 10. Maybe. Leaving McNabb and Trent Green off was a mistake - barring injury I think both of them are safe bets in the Top 10 with a handful of guys like Vick and Bledsoe as a slight possibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xenophobe 1 Posted July 18, 2006 Bledsoe was a top 10 fantasy QB last season, and the Dallas offense is in no wrose shape going into this season. Why would Bledsoe all of a sudden if healthy, put up much worse numbers with an improved offensive skill set around him? It does not make any common sense? I didn't say he would put up "much worse numbers". And I explained my reasoning. They aren't going to be running the exact same offense they ran last year with a new OC, improved defense, and two young backs they are high on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigtuna 0 Posted July 18, 2006 1. 2. I'm not nearly so high on CPepp - maybe top 10 but I can't see that kind of production. He looked terrible last year and he's coming off a serious injury and going to a lesser offense. 9. Again, ballsy pic but I just don't see it. Kitna has never been that great and the Lions' offense can make any QB look bad. I think McCown is going to end up starting at some point. . 2. Miami's offense is a HUGE upgrade over the Vikings. The Vikings had ZERO impact WR's in '05 and a poor running game. Miami has a top back, a elite WR, and a potential stud TE. And great coaching. You must remember that DC was not just productive with Moss ect in Minny, but he was record setting. His fantasy numbers were off the charts (point differntial wise). 9. Kitna has been great. Bengals 3 years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted July 18, 2006 1. Peyton Manning: they will lean on Manning to the tune of 4500 yards and 40 TD's.2. Duante Culpepper: NFL Comeback Player of the Year will play all 16 games. While he will not eclipse his fantasy record setting season of 2004, he will throw for 3800 yards, 29 TD's, and run for 350 yards and 5-6 scores. 3. Matt Hasselbeck: Good for 4000 yards and 28 TD's 4. Carson Palmer: His points per game will make him even higher. 5. Tom Brady: the greatest QB to ever play the game, will still put up 3800 yards and 25 TD's with a mediocre (at best) set of WR's (and thats if Branch signs!) 6. Aaron Brooks: He landed in the best scenario possible his big arm and mobility will elad to a ton of long scores to Moss and Porter. 7. Eli Manning: He will play all 16 games. 8. Ben Rothlesberger: Not the greatest pressure player of all time, but still talented and well protected and surrounded by a great cast and lots of scoring opportunities. 9. Jon Kitna: Will be a borderline Pro Bowler in '06. He is a good QB, but will have to win the job first, which i think he will. 10. Marc Bulger: would rank much higher if his protection would be better and he could stay healthy. Could rank in top 4 in points per game. Most likely backup to succeed: Matt Schaub (he may take the job is Vick struggles) Starter gaurenteed to get hurt: Kurt Warner Best rookie: Matt Leinhart biggest bust: JP losman BT, I'm in a bad mood today, but despite that, I like most of these picks. I'm not sure I put DCulpepper and ABrooks as high as you have them, but you bring up some good points. Brooks may be an absolute steal and make RMoss the #1 WR in the game again. RMoss had his best years when he had a big, strong, mobile QB who could buy time for Randy to clear and separate, and now he's got that again. And I'll give you this, if DCulpeppers knee is healthy, I peg him for a top 5 guy, because he does have some firepower around him. Oh, and I agree w/ the earlier criticism on your pick of JPLostman as the biggest bust...don't you have to succeed before you can become a bust?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Second Place Don't Pay 0 Posted July 18, 2006 There's no way Shanahan will bench Plummer unless the team is dead last in the AFC West with no chance to dig itself out (which won't happen.) That would be the only way he would throw an inexperienced QB into the fire (either J. Cutler or Van Pelt.) ...Unless Plummer gets hurt which could happen. He's fairly durable, but he plays so hard he can get banged up at times. Thank you for bringing that up. Plummer has improved each year in Shanahan's offense. They've added Walker, and Watts could be a serviceable 3rd receiver with no Ashl-oops, what route was I supposed to run - Lelei holding out. The running attack - even if it's RBBC - keeps defenses honest and allows Plummer to play-action and rollout so he can do what he's best at - throw in open space. He's a great value pick given the stigma he has from his Arizona years and his game-changing interceptions, but he'll put up top 10 fantasy numbers this year. Bledsoe - shoot, the argument that if you pressure him he doesn't perform well holds up for almost all QBs, including and especially your #1 in Manning. He'll still put up stats, especially in a 2-TE set (ah, the Ben Coates days) and with Terrible Moanins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cowboy918 0 Posted July 18, 2006 For those high on Bledsoe due to the addition of TO, I'd temper my expectations. There's going to be a lot of changes to the offense this year, and I certainly don't see them throwing the ball all around. The strength of the team is the young defense. On offense they'll run out of a lot of 2TE sets and I see them pounding the ball a lot with their two backs. They'll pass to keep defenses honest and will take a few shots down field per game, but this won't be an offense condusive to fantasy production. They will toss the ball around as well as run. TO, Glenn,Witten and the forgotten Patrick Crayton(thats right)he will be a factor. Drew has a great receiving cast and the offense should be well balanced. I do feel the running game is stronger than last year(faith in Barber) but that just makes it that much better for the passing game. I since alot of TO hate, because there is know way one could think that adding the best(arguably) WR in the game to an offense and expect for the QB production to drop, it just doesnt make since. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrJ 0 Posted July 19, 2006 So Bledsoe was a fluke last season? The guy has had a marvelous career. He has done it over and over again. Maybe that final season with Buffalo was a fluke. Perhaps if he had more than 1.5 seconds to release the ball he could've done a better job. Bledsoe, since he is so immoble, needs those short, quick release options available to him, something he also did not have in Buffalo. The only way Bledsoe doesn't finish top 10 is if he gets injured. So you're suggesting that his 20 TD's in 98, his 19 in 99, his 17 in 00, his 11 in 03, and his 20 in 04 are the anomalies? The guy has gone over 20 TD's twice in the last 8 seasons. Predicting Bledsoe to fall apart in true Bledoe fashion, just like he did in Buffalo, really isn't going that far out on a limb... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigtuna 0 Posted July 19, 2006 So you're suggesting that his 20 TD's in 98, his 19 in 99, his 17 in 00, his 11 in 03, and his 20 in 04 are the anomalies? The guy has gone over 20 TD's twice in the last 8 seasons. Predicting Bledsoe to fall apart in true Bledoe fashion, just like he did in Buffalo, really isn't going that far out on a limb... Hallelujah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.j. booker 0 Posted July 19, 2006 Brooks teams up with Moss, so he somehow becomes awesome, yet Bledsoe gets TO but he gets much worse than last year. Put down the (insert drug paraphernalia or alcoholic beverage) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cowboy918 0 Posted July 19, 2006 Brooks teams up with Moss, so he somehow becomes awesome, yet Bledsoe gets TO but he gets much worse than last year. Put down the (insert drug paraphernalia or alcoholic beverage) Great Point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kyoti 0 Posted July 19, 2006 When I need a good laugh I will be sure to check out the BigTuna's player rankings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
texasmouth 1 Posted July 19, 2006 When I need a good laugh I will be sure to check out the BigTuna's player rankings. Best post in this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Money Ball 0 Posted July 19, 2006 1. Peyton Manning: they will lean on Manning to the tune of 4500 yards and 40 TD's.2. Duante Culpepper: NFL Comeback Player of the Year will play all 16 games. While he will not eclipse his fantasy record setting season of 2004, he will throw for 3800 yards, 29 TD's, and run for 350 yards and 5-6 scores. 3. Matt Hasselbeck: Good for 4000 yards and 28 TD's 4. Carson Palmer: His points per game will make him even higher. 5. Tom Brady: the greatest QB to ever play the game, will still put up 3800 yards and 25 TD's with a mediocre (at best) set of WR's (and thats if Branch signs!) 6. Aaron Brooks: He landed in the best scenario possible his big arm and mobility will elad to a ton of long scores to Moss and Porter. 7. Eli Manning: He will play all 16 games. 8. Ben Rothlesberger: Not the greatest pressure player of all time, but still talented and well protected and surrounded by a great cast and lots of scoring opportunities. 9. Jon Kitna: Will be a borderline Pro Bowler in '06. He is a good QB, but will have to win the job first, which i think he will. 10. Marc Bulger: would rank much higher if his protection would be better and he could stay healthy. Could rank in top 4 in points per game. Most likely backup to succeed: Matt Schaub (he may take the job is Vick struggles) Starter gaurenteed to get hurt: Kurt Warner Best rookie: Matt Leinhart biggest bust: JP losman JP a bust this year? ....I thought you had to be good or at least decent with some sort of expectations to bust..??? Losman a bust and getting pulled from his starting spot. Umm...Didn't go out on a limb for that one. What do you think of Kurt Warner getting pulled??? Or will he actually do well with all those weapons????? no Trent Green but i like the boldness A lot of running, I see it. But definitely ahead of Kitna in everyone's eyes. But list is interesting, I mean you never know what happens. No Bledsoe or Delhomme. You are Yeah, Delhomme with Smith and Keyshawn is definitely top 10 material in fantasy. But I don't like him that much either, good you left him off. But it maybe helpful if I actually put him on my projections list. Bledsoe probably can't be worse than last year, thats a good point. I might take my chances of him, especially since he has T.O. for those long pass connections. Oh yeah, that Aaron Brooks projection was terrible actually. Decen tlist though IMO, we have to wait and see how this plays out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites