Brother in law of an NFL kicker wants draft rights

[yostevo 0]

I'm not going to mention which kicker because I'd like to keep the names out of it but I will explain all the dynamics.

 

A close friend and long time league member in the league I run has a brother in law in who is the placekicker for a NFL team. Naturally, my friend would like to have exclusive draft rights to him so that he would never have to root against him. (Understandable) This kicker plays for a below .500 team and has a horrible offense around him right now so his value isn't exactly high on the fantasy charts. The problem being is that:

 

A. He's a kicker and they are completly unpredictable year after year.

 

B. We'd all like to have exclusive rights to a player so giving that kind of bonus could be an advantage.

 

C. I want to be loyal to a friend yet I have to maintain league integrity because not everyone is friends with this guy.

 

Our rosters are not flexible. We are obligated to keep X amount of each position on our rosters at all times so it's not like he can do a whole lot in that regard. This isn't the first time we've had to deal with this issue but it's becoming a bit of a controversy.

 

Thoughts?

 

ETA: This league is a highly competitive & fairly sizeable money league where the winner could take home over a $1,000

[Whyamiabillsfan 0]

I have exclusive draft rights to LJ, b/c my god-niece's best friend's sister-in-law is his hair stylist.

 

I say no deal and let the guy draft a crap kicker early if he wants to whine about not cheering for his brother-in-law.

[Rookie QB 0]

Does this kicker normally get drafted? If he does, just to be somewhat fair to the other members, say he cannot be touched by anyone except the Brother-In-Law before a certain round. After that round, if the Brother-In-Law does not draft him, the draft rights are removed.

[Parja 0]

You forgot the obvious answer...

 

Tell him to go fock himself!

[Force of Two 0]

Does this kicker normally get drafted? If he does, just to be somewhat fair to the other members, say he cannot be touched by anyone except the Brother-In-Law before a certain round. After that round, if the Brother-In-Law does not draft him, the draft rights are removed.

 

I like this compromise....either that or do a stupid seperate kicker draft..let him go first and then do a random drawing for the rest

[DaWeffa 0]

I would offer exclusive rights in the first round only....i think that is a fair trade off for exclusive rights...if he wants him that bad he can take him in the first round...otherwise he is fair game...but to be realistic...i think that since kickers arent worth all that much...most owners wouldnt have a problem with this guy being allowed to take a freaking kicker...honestly if i was in that league, when it came time to take a kicker i would take him in spite and make some silly trade offer for him....

[Phurfur 70]

This is a no-brainer. If he wants him he should draft him. This whole issue is stupid, so what if he is his brother-in-law? Who cares? He doesn't want to root against him? Well then don't. What happens in the NFL when the Manning or Barber brothers play each other? Does the NFL have special rules? I say let him draft him in the first round if it is so important to him. Personally I would not play in a league that gave any special consideration to a situation like this.

[yostevo 0]

Does this kicker normally get drafted? If he does, just to be somewhat fair to the other members, say he cannot be touched by anyone except the Brother-In-Law before a certain round. After that round, if the Brother-In-Law does not draft him, the draft rights are removed.

 

He's a quality kicker and as always, if put into the right position,could be a top 5 type. The criteria you have mentioned is basically what we've done in the past. We desginated a round that he must pick him by or he's fair game. It's a good compromise but it gets tricky because of the player's circumstances.

[Cuse9 131]

Does this kicker normally get drafted? If he does, just to be somewhat fair to the other members, say he cannot be touched by anyone except the Brother-In-Law before a certain round. After that round, if the Brother-In-Law does not draft him, the draft rights are removed.

 

I agree...tell the league members, you cannot draft this kicker in the first five rounds...after that the kicker is fair game. I only say this because it's a kicker...any other position, I'd say noway...draft him when you can.

[cortezthekiller303 0]

aside from your issue, let me just say its a pretty lame claim to fame, but I would suspect he tells everyone and their fvcking mother that he is related to an NFL player...and just leaves out that its by marriage and that the fvcking guy is a kicker.

 

I would remove him from the league on general principle.

[Milwalkeysbeast 0]

I'd pick the kicker right before him then trade him for larry johnson

[Cdub100 3,996]

The answer is no.

[yostevo 0]

This is a no-brainer. If he wants him he should draft him. This whole issue is stupid, so what if he is his brother-in-law? Who cares? He doesn't want to root against him? Well then don't. What happens in the NFL when the Manning or Barber brothers play each other? Does the NFL have special rules? I say let him draft him in the first round if it is so important to him. Personally I would not play in a league that gave any special consideration to a situation like this.

 

 

You make valid points and if it were any other position besides the worthless kicker this wouldn't be an issue. So that's why we are being a little more lenient in this situation. That's as far as it would go though.

[jgcrawfish 232]

This is as STUPID as it gets. One of the first rules of FFL is don't pick with your heart. We've got a guy who a Redskins fan and annually loads up on Redskin players...and always gets the same result...mediocre. If I'm a Steelers fan and take players from the Cowboys, Ravens and Patriots, it doesn't make me a traitor, it makes me sensible FFL owner. It shouldn't be any different if you're related to an NFL player in some obscure way. I mean, sh!t, if my friggin brother is the 3rd string TE on an NFL team, I'm not picking him for my FFL team just because of it...bottom line, it matters not if he's an NFL player, what matters is if he sucks at the NFL and I pick him, part of my FFL team then sucks too. So with that in mind...

 

I like the solution proposed earlier about the guy having exclusive rights to pick him, but only until a certain round. And since the guy is basically asking you to change league rules to accomodate his stupid request, I think you make it cost him pretty heavily. I say that he gets exclusive access to pick the player only in the first 2/3 of the draft, rounded up. If you guys draft 16 rounds, he gets an exclusive shot at his brother only until the end of round 10, cause in round 11 he's fair game. This accomplishes three things: First, it will prevent other guys from taking him. Secondly, it makes him pay a steep price for being a pecker and asking the league for a rule change just to accomodate him. Third, if he waits too long to make his move, it still gives the guys in his league a chance to bend him over by picking his brother late. Sounds like a WIN-WIN-WIN to me.

 

Finally, I think you put it to the other owners to make a mandatory change to his team name. This almost requires you to name him something like:

"On my brother's jock"

"Living vicariously"

"Going down on NFL Kickers"

[yostevo 0]

This almost requires you to name him something like:

"On my brother's jock"

"Living vicariously"

"Going down on NFL Kickers"

 

This has been duly noted.

[DaWeffa 0]

better yet...make his name be....

 

David Akers gay lover....

 

or whatever the dudes name is!

 

i still say make him pick in the first round...that should be the nly round he is blocked....

 

you are toying with the integrity of the league if you do this...you need to set a presedence now....no is the answer..if the guy wants him bad enbough he will have to make a sacrafice early in the draft....why make all the other teams make a sacrafice by not being able to draft this guy....simply isnt fair for the whole league....

 

is this a money league?

[yostevo 0]

i still say make him pick in the first round...that should be the nly round he is blocked....

 

you are toying with the integrity of the league if you do this...you need to set a presedence now....no is the answer..if the guy wants him bad enbough he will have to make a sacrafice early in the draft....why make all the other teams make a sacrafice by not being able to draft this guy....simply isnt fair for the whole league....

 

is this a money league?

 

I would say that you are overreacting just a smidge. After all, it is only a kicker. Last year we made him take "his kicker" immediately after the first kicker taken off the board. So if some idiot took a kicker in the 5th rd. he was obligated to do the same. That is a compromise.

[Franknbeans 46]

tell him to go #### in a hat

[JetsFan28 0]

Ok I'll ask: Who's the kicker? I'm dying to know.

[DaWeffa 0]

I would say that you are overreacting just a smidge. After all, it is only a kicker. Last year we made him take "his kicker" immediately after the first kicker taken off the board. So if some idiot took a kicker in the 5th rd. he was obligated to do the same. That is a compromise.

 

not over reacting....just thinking of the league as a whole, and not rewriting the rules of the draft for one dude....like i said before, if this chode wants the kicker that bad he can sac an early pick for him, if not ....tough titty....

 

again....is this a pay league?

[unckeyherb 2]

not over reacting....just thinking of the league as a whole, and not rewriting the rules of the draft for one dude....like i said before, if this chode wants the kicker that bad he can sac an early pick for him, if not ....tough titty....

 

again....is this a pay league?

 

Yeah, I can't say I support giving him draft rights. I guess if yall are friends, tell him he has an open window to draft him till round 5. Then anyone can after that. If he has that much of a hard-on for his sister's husband, he should suffer the consequences and draft him over someone of value.

 

If it s a money league tell him to take a ###### with his pants on.

[yostevo 0]

not over reacting....just thinking of the league as a whole, and not rewriting the rules of the draft for one dude....like i said before, if this chode wants the kicker that bad he can sac an early pick for him, if not ....tough titty....

 

again....is this a pay league?

 

Yes, it's mentioned in the original topic post.

 

Ok I'll ask: Who's the kicker? I'm dying to know.

 

[DaWeffa 0]

Yes, it's mentioned in the original topic post.

 

Holy Crap....1000 bones at stake....absolutely not man....i would quit your league immediatly if this went through.....shame on you for even considering it in a pay league....

[mattb333 0]

I'd pick the kicker right before him then trade him for larry johnson

 

 

That's What I'm talking about. FF is about competition, I would take him out of spite, good old fashion spite. If he wants him that bad, trade me for him at a high price. Not trying to be a ######, but if I can get my hand on $1000 then F your draft rights. I hope that he would be in my division also so hopefully he would have to root against him twice.

 

Sh!tting in a hat or with his pants up also seems viable.

[schentai 0]

I honestly have to agree with the people that say : Make him draft him too early if he wants to keep his guy.

 

I say this for one reason primarily. Drafting in FF as we all know is one of the most important parts of the season. One very effective draft strategy is to draft a player that you KNOW another owner has a thing for just before they can and then trying to trade the player to that owner post-draft for more than his value.

 

Sadly, because alot of owners are homer, this often works. In a friendly league I'd say no questions asked but you are talking about a money league. In a money league owners can, and should take advantage of every opportunity they have.

 

I tell you what, if I can draft a kicker in round 8 because I know that I will be able to trade him for a round 5-7 tier WR or RB because someone has a hard on for the player, I'm definately going to do it.

 

 

But, if you really want to give him exclusive rights here's what I would recommend;

 

Pick a round, I'd say 1,2, or 3 that the league feels is appropriate to sacrifice for "reserving" said player. That owner would then lose their pick in that round and be granted the player at that point. However, he would HAVE to agree to do, or not do the deal pre-draft so that the other owners could approach the draft accordingly.

[dcskin 0]

First off, the guy is pretty silly for making this an issue at all.

 

Secondly, you are walking a very dangerous line here. What if the kicker goes off and has himself a Rackers-esque season and wins this guy the league. How would the other guys feel knowing that they had no shot at getting him due to some silly rule that made him off limits?

 

The best answer has already been said many times...tell the guy if he wants to ensure he gets his guy, he should draft him insanely early.

 

 

(otherwise, go with the sh!tting in the hat thing)

[jgcrawfish 232]

better yet...make his name be....

 

David Akers gay lover....

 

or whatever the dudes name is!

 

That's even better than my suggestions... "(Insert crappy-kickers name here)'s Gay Lover"...classic.

 

 

yostevo, can you at least tell us what team?

[yostevo 0]

I just emailed the guy a link to this post so that he can view the unbiased responses. It will be interesting to see if he responds in this thread. (although I don't believe he's a FFToday member)

 

yostevo, can you at least tell us what team?

 

I would think that might give it away just a tad.

[U Dub 0]

first come, first serve. he's got plenty of rds to pick up his lover....

[jgcrawfish 232]

I just emailed the guy a link to this post so that he can view the unbiased responses. It will be interesting to see if he responds in this thread. (although I don't believe he's a FFToday member)

I would think that might give it away just a tad.

 

I didn't even know the "other" Grammatica brother, Schemp Grammatica, was into Fantasy Football

 

[Phurfur 70]

This guy blew it! He should have acted like he could care less about having this guy on his team. Then he could have drafted him in a reasonable round.

[schentai 0]

This guy blew it! He should have acted like he could care less about having this guy on his team. Then he could have drafted him in a reasonable round.

 

AMEN!

[luckdogg17 0]

if he isn't one of the top kickers then he should be able to reach for him a little bit and get him. he should be able to get him on his next pick after the first kicker goes if he wants him so bad. i don't think you should make a special rule just for one player even though it's not that big of a deal if you do if he is an average kicker.

 

i'm sure he had a better chance of getting him if he wouldn't have brought up this rule change because there are probably some boners in your league that will try to get the kicker now out of spite.

 

i'd like to say that if he wants him so bad then he should just make sure that he drafts him early enough, but if he isn't a top 5 ranked kicker then i think him having to draft the kicker after the first kicker is taken is a good solution because it sounds like he would be drafting him a lot earlier than normal but he still gets the guy.

 

what round did the first kicker go in last year? was it several rounds before most teams got kickers?

 

sorry for all of the he's and him's.

[yostevo 0]

i'm sure he had a better chance of getting him if he wouldn't have brought up this rule change because there are probably some boners in your league that will try to get the kicker now out of spite.

 

The boners in my league will not reach for a player to cut off their nose to spite his face.

 

what round did the first kicker go in last year? was it several rounds before most teams got kickers?

 

sorry for all of the he's and him's.

 

I believe that the first kicker went in the 7th or 8th round last year. Too early in my book and so he was forced to pick his kicker in that same round. Those rounds are key backup players so he definitely had to make a sacrifice for "his player".

[Eriadoc 4]

Personally, I think the kicker in question should be traded each week to the team lining up against Mr. Brother-in-Law and then started in the lineup. JMO.

 

 

 

 

The "sh!tt!ng in a hat" thing works too, though.

[luckdogg17 0]

the 7th or 8th round seems like a stiff enough penalty if you did want to use the same rule as last year.

 

personally, if i was the guy, i'd just wait as long as i thought i could and still get the guy. i know this isn't foolproof but is it really that important? if he doesn't get him, you would think that he could probably trade for him. he would have to lose the trade but hopefully someone wouldn't be too unreasonable with him.

[schentai 0]

What really bothers me about this is that just about every FF owner is forced to "play against" one of their favorite players, or root against "their team" throughout the season from a fantasy perspective.

 

That's just part of playing the game of Fantasy Football. That actually to me is part of what makes it as fun as it is. FF makes you a fan of football, not just a particular team or player.

[Cdub100 3,996]

Also it's his brother not BIL

 

...and I drafted him last year just so he couldn't have him. Grabed him in the 14th round. I was sure to tell him that his own brother didn't draft him and I had too

[DaWeffa 0]

Personally, I think the kicker in question should be traded each week to the team lining up against Mr. Brother-in-Law and then started in the lineup. JMO.

 

very nice....

 

i dont know why, but i love this thread....lol

 

bottom line 1000 dollars involved....there should be no special treatment....period

[skinsrule05 30]

This guy blew it! He should have acted like he could care less about having this guy on his team. Then he could have drafted him in a reasonable round.

 

The problem is it is hard to do this when your response to every questions is, "My brother-in-law plays in the NFL"