Who will ruin a team this year.

[ffdomino 0]

If you are lucky enough to have a top 3 (or maybe even top 4) you may not fall into this problem as the later draft picks. The risk and reward fluctuates greatly after th 6th pick.

 

Which high pick do you think will ruin a team this year?

 

My guess is Edge. The line in Indy was not top notch by any means but it was far better than what they have in Arizona. Indy was always ahead last year too so plenty of run plays were called. I do not think that will be the same in Arizona. O-line and defense will fail them.

 

There are other RBs I think will fair less in the top 15 or so but Edge has this premier back image which may skew the fantasy teams owners into a picking strategy like a top 3 pick would have. You have a solid #1 back already so lets fill up on a servicable RB2 and get every other spot before beefing up the RB depth.

 

Anyone else have any ideas on this?

 

My close second player is Kevin Jones....Mike Matz just sucks.

[D'ohmer Simpson 0]

Who will ruin a team this year.

TO

 

 

What do I win?

[Erb047 0]

My pick is Tiki Barber...

[Hurricane 0]

It might be obvious at this point but Domanick Davis. All this knee crap still lingering in preseason is likely to haunt owners that draft him too high this year. Last half of last year you never knew if he was starting or not, making setting lineups a real crap shoot.

[OB1 33]

My pick is Tiki Barber...

I don't know about 'ruin', but I believe he will disappoint where he is getting drafted. We will both get fried by the Tiki lovers out there though.

 

Tiki is on the wrong side of 30, and carried the ball 354 times last year along with 50+ receptions. That's over 400 touches. Add into that the fact that he has never been a consistent visitor to the endzone in his career:

 

Check out these TD totals (combined Rus/Rec) over his career: 4,3,2,9,4,11,3,15,11. In 9 years he's had 5 seasons where he failed to score even 5 times. Yes, he's scored more than 10 times 3 out of the last 4, but he will lose goaline carries to Jacobs again this year, and you can't count on him having as many long TD runs again.

 

I'm not saying he will suddenly stink, and predicting injury is a losing proposition, but I just can't see myself taking him at 4 or 5 where a lot of people are. At that spot he needs to be the lynchpin of your team, and while he is one of the most consistent yardage monsters in the league, his erratic TD produciton + 31 years old + immense workload last season makes him a risky proposition as a top 5 pick IMHO.

[SmartassBoiler 0]

It might be obvious at this point but Domanick Davis. All this knee crap still lingering in preseason is likely to haunt owners that draft him too high this year. Last half of last year you never knew if he was starting or not, making setting lineups a real crap shoot.

 

Yup. Edge will be fine, and while I think Tiki is a bit overvalued this season, he'll provide a quality year regardless. I can see DD breaking down and giving very little fantasy output this year.

 

DJax is another huge red flag, although I don't think he'd hurt a team as much as DD would.

[VikingFan 0]

It might be obvious at this point but Domanick Davis. All this knee crap still lingering in preseason is likely to haunt owners that draft him too high this year. Last half of last year you never knew if he was starting or not, making setting lineups a real crap shoot.

 

 

Mu gut thought the minute I read this topic header. This guy with all his knee problems is just a real crapshoot, give me Westbrook anyday over him.

[Prof Dr Hase 0]

Should that be posted on the HELP site also?

Just asking!

[neworleansff2003 0]

deuce mccalister....the guy is a bum. a frickin bum.

[ffdomino 0]

deuce mccalister....the guy is a bum. a frickin bum.

 

Yeah...but I do not think many people would put him near the top of their projection.

 

 

I also tend to think LJ will be highly dissapointing this year. I am just glad I do not have an option to pick him unless he drops. I think Al Saunders and Roaf were a big loss....

[Jeremy 0]

I actually think Edge will do alright this year. He's very motivated to help this team turn the corner.

 

I also think Dom Davis could be a nice value pick. The sore knee and injury history is causing his stock to drop, but the MRIs aren't turn up anything. Risky pick to be sure, but if you've got the stomach for it, he could exceed where he's being drafted.

 

Lamont Jordon worries me a bit. He plays on a bad team that gets behind in games quite a bit. He did ok last year in that situation, but my gut tells me he's in for hard times this year. I also feel Kevin and Julius Jones are going too early a lot of times, especially Julius Jones.

[football_scooter 0]

IMO, it will be Westbrook.

He's being targeted as a top 14 pick in non-PPR leagues, and a top 10 pick in PPR leagues.

 

Looking at his history, he's been fragile, and despite reports of being used more and establishing a better ground attack, I am unconvinces that the Eagles are capable of doing it, or that Westy is capable of staying healthy with an increased workload.

 

 

 

Also looking at his numbers, even if he's 10% better than he was last year, he's still only going to be a top 15 producer, and a major injury risk at that - not what I want as my first round pick. Too risky and could bury a lot of teams this year. Plus he'll have someone in as a GL vulture, which still further reduces his value.

 

I think he's being way overhyped this year, and he's a RB2 at best.

[pook187 0]

I have a weird feeling LJ is going to underperform big time.

 

I think Saunders leaving and Roaf's retirement are pretty big factors looking forward.

[calvincool13 0]

My pick is Tiki Barber...

 

Why do you say Tiki Barber? I understand his schedule his difficult and he had over 400 touches last year but he's reportedly showed up to camp in incredible shape (again) prepared to handle a similar load. Thoughts?

[Ruphus 0]

IMO, it will be Westbrook.

He's being targeted as a top 14 pick in non-PPR leagues, and a top 10 pick in PPR leagues.

 

Looking at his history, he's been fragile, and despite reports of being used more and establishing a better ground attack, I am unconvinces that the Eagles are capable of doing it, or that Westy is capable of staying healthy with an increased workload.

Also looking at his numbers, even if he's 10% better than he was last year, he's still only going to be a top 15 producer, and a major injury risk at that - not what I want as my first round pick. Too risky and could bury a lot of teams this year. Plus he'll have someone in as a GL vulture, which still further reduces his value.

 

I think he's being way overhyped this year, and he's a RB2 at best.

 

 

I agree with this, and I'd add McNabb as a pick that could kill your team dependant upon where you draft him at. Granted, most people don't pick QB's till late, but I just get the shakes and willies about having any Philly players starting on my FF squad this year. No talent at WR, and 2 of their top 4 are already nursing nagging type injuries. I'm avoiding this team like the plague.

[Steel City Blues 0]

I suspect there are several bullets to dodge in the first round and a half.

 

Dom Davis should be at the top of the ru'int draft list with his knee situation. If healthy, he is a tremendous PPR guy to have.

 

Willis McGahee is getting killed without anyone to block or take the pressure off in the passing game. Unless his supporting cast wakes up, it will be hard for Willis to put up decent fantasy stats week to week.

 

Steven Jackson has risen so quickly, he's become over hyped as a #6-7 overall pick. This kid is more of a boom/bust back. While not a total bust, he is being drafted where his pie in the sky projections could land him. I'll take Portis, Edge, Lamont Jordan, or even Rudi over him any day.

 

Steve Smith has been a great performer, but he will dissapoint those who drafted him as the #1 FF WR taken this season.

 

Top 5 players that will do well, just under perform this year include.

Tiki (I love the guy & he helped me win last season, but I don't see him producing as well this season.)

SA Won't whiff last season's gaudy stats. TDs in particular are bound to take a big hit.

[Jeremy 0]

It's amazing how many players this year has sort of knock against them. You could pick almost any name from the top 50 and find a reason they'll won't produce as much as they should or have in the past. Should be an interesting season.

[ffdomino 0]

Better to know the knocks then find out about them later....Jamal, TO, Randy Moss, McGahhe, Deuce, KJ, Julius, Dom....these were all pretty "safe" picks last year if I recall correctly.....

[UberAlias 0]

TO!!! Fantasy and otherwise.

[mobb_deep 920]

I don't know about 'ruin', but I believe he will disappoint where he is getting drafted. We will both get fried by the Tiki lovers out there though.

 

Tiki is on the wrong side of 30, and carried the ball 354 times last year along with 50+ receptions. That's over 400 touches. Add into that the fact that he has never been a consistent visitor to the endzone in his career:

 

Check out these TD totals (combined Rus/Rec) over his career: 4,3,2,9,4,11,3,15,11. In 9 years he's had 5 seasons where he failed to score even 5 times. Yes, he's scored more than 10 times 3 out of the last 4, but he will lose goaline carries to Jacobs again this year, and you can't count on him having as many long TD runs again.

 

I'm not saying he will suddenly stink, and predicting injury is a losing proposition, but I just can't see myself taking him at 4 or 5 where a lot of people are. At that spot he needs to be the lynchpin of your team, and while he is one of the most consistent yardage monsters in the league, his erratic TD produciton + 31 years old + immense workload last season makes him a risky proposition as a top 5 pick IMHO.

 

Yah that's scaring me too. I've got the #4 pick in the Geek League and I keep going back and forth between Tiki and Portis. At first I was deadset on Tiki as it's a PPR league but now I'm hearing Portis is going to get more passes so I dunno.

 

Does anyone have the stats on how many of TIki's TD's last season were long yardage?

 

I personally think Steve Smith will dissapoint. WR's are too inconsistent to be taken in the firsy round. I don't think SMith will be a compelte bust but I wouldn't expect numbers like last year.

[thorshammer 0]

Should that be posted on the HELP site also?

Just asking!

 

if it was from you, then yes.

:loudvoice: now take your butt to the HELP BOARD :loudvoice:

[eo11 0]

I have a weird feeling LJ is going to underperform big time.

 

I think Saunders leaving and Roaf's retirement are pretty big factors looking forward.

 

 

Do not forget Welbourne retiring as well

 

or TRich goign to the Vikings

 

so of the KC 6 primary blockers 3 are gone

 

add to that the fact that Brian Walters has not been able to practice yet because of his own injuries and that new LT Kyle Turly weighs all of 260 pounds

 

no Eddie Kennsion is suggesting he may leave if the Chiefs do not find him more money

 

lets just say things are not looking optimal in BBQ land

[zmanzzzz 1]

brett favre will throw a lot of ints.

[MacAir747 0]

S. Smith will definitely not end up #1 WR at the end of the year. However I don't know if that constitutes ruining a team, he'll still be great.

 

I really don't see C. Palmer making any significant impact until at least mid season. If he's drafted high, he might ruin the teams relying on him to get them to the playoffs IMHO.

[eo11 0]

brett favre will throw a lot of ints.

 

 

ok maybe but if he throws 25 that is what minus 50 pts

 

but 30 DTs is worth 180 or 120 in conservative leagues

 

so he is still on the up side of a guy that throws 20 TDs and 12 Ints right?

 

INTs mean little in fantasy

[ffdomino 0]

We play 4 point TDs for QBs and -2 for INT....they add up.

[scomo 0]

brett favre will throw a lot of ints.

 

 

He threw 29 Ints last year and was still a solid QB to have. Is it possible to throw more than that?

 

[Ras66not99 0]

Do not forget Welbourne retiring as well

 

or TRich goign to the Vikings

 

so of the KC 6 primary blockers 3 are gone

 

add to that the fact that Brian Walters has not been able to practice yet because of his own injuries and that new LT Kyle Turly weighs all of 260 pounds

 

no Eddie Kennsion is suggesting he may leave if the Chiefs do not find him more money

 

lets just say things are not looking optimal in BBQ land

 

Don't forget that Will Shields is a fossil as well and looking to call it quits at any time now

[Jeremy 0]

We play 4 point TDs for QBs and -2 for INT....they add up.

 

That's a pretty ugly scoring system for QBs. I hope they get well rewarded for passing yards.

[z00g 0]

Here's an interesting insight on Brett Favre.

[ffdomino 0]

That's a pretty ugly scoring system for QBs. I hope they get well rewarded for passing yards.

 

Balances out. RBs and WRs get -2 for fumbles.

[jagermeister 0]

deuce mccalister....the guy is a bum. a frickin bum.

 

Naw...he's not a bum. When not injured, he has performed well (top 10), and last year was basically a lost cause. Nobody has any real expectations for hmi this year, so it's hard to say he'll ruin anything.

 

I suspect he burned you last year; I certainly had to be creative with my roster after I lost him.

[Toro 1]

I have a weird feeling LJ is going to underperform big time.

 

I think Saunders leaving and Roaf's retirement are pretty big factors looking forward.

 

I agree.

[Phurfur 70]

Yah that's scaring me too. I've got the #4 pick in the Geek League and I keep going back and forth between Tiki and Portis. At first I was deadset on Tiki as it's a PPR league but now I'm hearing Portis is going to get more passes so I dunno.

 

When I am in a similar situation (ranking two player equal) I always go with the younger player. So my rankings are Portis / Tiki.

[Jeremy 0]

Balances out. RBs and WRs get -2 for fumbles.

 

The most fumble prone RBs are going to fumble maybe 5 or 6 times a year. Even the best QB will throw double digit picks, and it's not unheard of to get in the 20s. It doesn't really come close to evening out, but whatever works for you. QBs have very little value in that system, though. I think if you're going to give -2 for an int, you should give 6 pts for a TD pass if you want to have the QB position to mean something.

[Raider 84 29]

TO Blows

[jeffkomlo 19]

Matt Millen and the next year and the next year until all the Fords die and a new GM is named

[dvldog 0]

Damn I'm reading that LJ and SA will ruin my team, what do I do with the first pick now?? Do I hear a LT will a ruin a team too?

[xenophobe 1]

Willie Roaf.

[sbart-kingdaddy 0]

Alexander's on the madden cover for 07, if you're superstitious...