I think Donte Stallworth has been going too high

[cmh6476 1,024]

it seems to me it usually takes a little time for a QB and WR to develop a rapport, and he still has to get acquainted to the offense. Owners are taking him in rds 3-5 from what Im seeing, which might be a little high IMO.

 

 

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[davebg 0]

I totally agree. For a WR who doesn't know the O or the QB...has a history of injury concerns and has only shown flashes...he's going way too high.

 

I had my draft Sun night. The person to my left was going to take him...I said "bad idea"...you can get him later...so they took Horn instead (better pick IMO.) Then, before the picks came around again someone snapped him up. That's when the guy to my right was like "Uh-Oh...my partner wanted to take him, but I said no, u can get him later."

[adanley 1]

I agree. I got him in the final round of our draft (round 16) before the PHI trade. I'd still probably draft him no higher than round 8.

[gobuckeyes 0]

McNabb likes to spread the ball around a lot and Stallworth has proven in the past that he is not an elite reciever. I don't like him as any more than a hopeful #3. People seem to be expecting him to replace TO, but really he is not much better than most of the WRs they already have on that team.

[famousb 11]

my projection for Stallworth in PHI is around 900 and 6... put that where you want in your rankings, but i honestly don't see that being a 5th round WR by any means... and i think those numbers are generous (actually being higher than non-TO, PHI WRs for almost 10 years).

 

let's look at it historically:

 

1. over the last 2 seasons, Stallworth has an average of 64 recs, about 850 yds, and 6 tds. per year.

2. with the exception of TO (and Stallworth isn't even a shadow of TO), PHI hasn't had a 1,000 yd WR since 1997's Irving Fryar.

3. PHI hasn't had a WR (including TO) w/ over 80 rec's since Irving Fryar in 97.

 

now, i do think this is going to be PHIs best overall WR corp for quite some time - and this including the 1.5 years TO played because there really wasn't a supporting cast there w/ TO. But Stallworth isn't going to be "the man" who is always getting the ball - that's still going to be Brian Getsbroke (until he goes out for his standard 4 games). With 70+ rec's going to the RBs, that only leaves around 250 to get spread around the WR corps, and w/ young guys like Brown, Lewis, and Baskett, plus the TEs, that doesn't bode well to have any of them break 80 recs...

 

The guy who's value should really go up w/ the addition of Stallworth is McNabb. It gives him another legitimate threat who has gone for almost 1,000 yds in a season, and who has caught more than 80 rec's in a year - it doesn't mean Stallworth will do it this year, but it moves RBrown into the the #2 WR slot and Lewis into the #3 - which takes pressure off of them and will allow the whole group to perform better as a whole. But it still won't produce a #1 WR according to FF standards (and probably not a solid #2 either). I honestly see Keyshawn Johnson having similar stats in CAR to what any PHI WR will do this year because Key has historically performed at that particular level.

[cmh6476 1,024]

The guy who's value should really go up w/ the addition of Stallworth is McNabb. It gives him another legitimate threat who has gone for almost 1,000 yds in a season, and who has caught more than 80 rec's in a year - it doesn't mean Stallworth will do it this year, but it moves RBrown into the the #2 WR slot and Lewis into the #3 - which takes pressure off of them and will allow the whole group to perform better as a whole. But it still won't produce a #1 WR according to FF standards (and probably not a solid #2 either).

agreed

[Mack 1 6]

To fully understand Stallworth's potential impact, one must take a look at the other WRs and how they compare to him.

 

Philly has an inexperienced 2nd year WR in Reggie Brown, a scrub in Greg Lewis, a 4th round draft pick rookie in Jason Avant, and an undrafted rookie in Baskett. On the surface, Stallworth is head and shoulders better than this gang, which should translate into Stallworth having a productive season to the tune of, say, 80/1000/8.

[mozzy84 0]

got him in the ninth round yesterday and was very happy. rounds 3-5 is just nuts for him, I have not seen any of that going on myself.

[cmh6476 1,024]

got him in the ninth round yesterday and was very happy. rounds 3-5 is just nuts for him, I have not seen any of that going on myself.

yesterday in my 8-man he went 3.8

 

and then in my 12-man later in the day he went 4.8

 

 

[DanXIII 8]

Anything higher than round 5 is too high IMO. I don't see him making much of an impact until week 3 (at the earliest) and even after that we know McNabb likes to spread it around...

[davebg 0]

yesterday in my 8-man he went 3.8

That is just asinine considering the players that would still be available in an 8-team league. I mean, I'm no Stephen Hawking, but according to my math that means he was picked w/the 24th pick in the draft.

 

That sh|t is

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

my projection for Stallworth in PHI is around 900 and 6... put that where you want in your rankings, but i honestly don't see that being a 5th round WR by any means... and i think those numbers are generous (actually being higher than non-TO, PHI WRs for almost 10 years).

 

let's look at it historically:

 

1. over the last 2 seasons, Stallworth has an average of 64 recs, about 850 yds, and 6 tds. per year.

2. with the exception of TO (and Stallworth isn't even a shadow of TO), PHI hasn't had a 1,000 yd WR since 1997's Irving Fryar.

3. PHI hasn't had a WR (including TO) w/ over 80 rec's since Irving Fryar in 97.

 

now, i do think this is going to be PHIs best overall WR corp for quite some time - and this including the 1.5 years TO played because there really wasn't a supporting cast there w/ TO. But Stallworth isn't going to be "the man" who is always getting the ball - that's still going to be Brian Getsbroke (until he goes out for his standard 4 games). With 70+ rec's going to the RBs, that only leaves around 250 to get spread around the WR corps, and w/ young guys like Brown, Lewis, and Baskett, plus the TEs, that doesn't bode well to have any of them break 80 recs...

 

The guy who's value should really go up w/ the addition of Stallworth is McNabb. It gives him another legitimate threat who has gone for almost 1,000 yds in a season, and who has caught more than 80 rec's in a year - it doesn't mean Stallworth will do it this year, but it moves RBrown into the the #2 WR slot and Lewis into the #3 - which takes pressure off of them and will allow the whole group to perform better as a whole. But it still won't produce a #1 WR according to FF standards (and probably not a solid #2 either). I honestly see Keyshawn Johnson having similar stats in CAR to what any PHI WR will do this year because Key has historically performed at that particular level.

 

Well put. McNabb will spread the ball around, no doubt about it.

 

Another guy who will gain help from Stallworth is LJ Smith. He will be a great value pickup, no doubt about it.

[gobuckeyes 0]

To fully understand Stallworth's potential impact, one must take a look at the other WRs and how they compare to him.

 

Philly has an inexperienced 2nd year WR in Reggie Brown, a scrub in Greg Lewis, a 4th round draft pick rookie in Jason Avant, and an undrafted rookie in Baskett. On the surface, Stallworth is head and shoulders better than this gang, which should translate into Stallworth having a productive season to the tune of, say, 80/1000/8.

 

LJ Smith? Westbrook? Philly has recieving targets coming out their ears. Just because he is their new "best" reciever doesn't mean he'll be catching almost a third of McNabbs projected TDs. That just seems ridiculous. In reality he is pretty much another mediocre wr along with the rest. Besides, after switching teams so late in the preseason, no one expects him to come out of the gate and produce the first few weeks. Maybe if he was a stud reciever we would think that, but his track record is extremely dubious. Look at the big picture.

[The Next Generation 10]

September 5, 2006 12:44 PM ET

Eagles: Stallworth to start

The News

 

Coach Andy Reid confirmed to the Philadelphia Daily News that Donte Stallworth will start for the Eagles on Sunday.

Our View

 

Stallworth has evidently picked up enough of the Eagles offense to start ahead of undrafted rookie Hank Baskett, who was second on the depth chart behind Reggie Brown before the trade that brought Donte to town. Stallworth is a sneaky play against a highly suspect Texans secondary this weekend.

[cmh6476 1,024]

That is just asinine considering the players that would still be available in an 8-team league. I mean, I'm no Stephen Hawking, but according to my math that means he was picked w/the 24th pick in the draft.

 

That sh|t is

1 man keeper, so basically about 32nd player overall, but still...