Dominick 0 Posted November 17, 2006 how do you calculate records with ties? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,566 Posted November 17, 2006 they are tied 2 ties = 1 win 1 loss dont how how else to figure things out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thornton Melon 542 Posted November 17, 2006 Mathematically, they are tied with a .400 winning percentage. The tiebreakers are: 1. Head-to-head record 2. Head-to-head point differential 3. Quality of head given by wife/GF 4. Coin flip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0 Posted November 17, 2006 4 wins would take it? Seems like it to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brettfavreisbetterthanmarino 0 Posted November 17, 2006 It is not a tie. Wins are the most important. The 4-6 team has more wins...that's it. Unless you are in a league where wins do not count as much as losses and ties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Let Da Big Dog Eat 37 Posted November 17, 2006 A tie is 1/2 a game won and 1/2 a game lost. Anything is is retarded IMHO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shredhead 21 Posted November 17, 2006 Mathematically, they are tied with a .400 winning percentage. The tiebreakers are: 1. Head-to-head record 2. Head-to-head point differential 3. Quality of head given by wife/GF 4. Coin flip I agree they are tied with a .400 winning pct. I think in the NHL (at least the old NHL before the new rules) there was a tie breaker that had the team with more wins getting the advantage if they were tied in points. I'd go to Thornton's 3rd tie breaker to decide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ras66not99 0 Posted November 17, 2006 yes they are tied ... you must go to your tie-breaker's after that.... unless you're a rook commish and don't have your tie-breakers listed in your rules.... then yur up $hits creeak w/out a paddle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jpcdds 21 Posted November 17, 2006 absolute tie with a 400 winning %...need to go to your tiebreakers.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parja 0 Posted November 17, 2006 I'd go to Thornton's 3rd tie breaker to decide. The only logical solution. I'll judge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimESmalls 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Tied... In our league you get 10 pts for a win and 5 pts for a tie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted November 17, 2006 Tied... In our league you get 10 pts for a win and 5 pts for a tie. Why not just make it 2-points for a win and 1-point for a tie? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bkbergen 1 Posted November 17, 2006 How do you guys have teams that have multiple ties in a season? I have played FF for some 11 combined seasons over two leagues and have only had 3 ties alltogether in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,547 Posted November 17, 2006 Why not just make it 2-points for a win and 1-point for a tie? Common sense? How do you guys have teams that have multiple ties in a season? I have played FF for some 11 combined seasons over two years and have only had 3 ties alltogether in the league. we had 2 ties last year and switched to decimal scoring this year. closest we came to a tie was this. ST 75.4000 at DD 75.7000 (pretty damn close) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdizel 0 Posted November 17, 2006 4-6 is the winning team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
npfl-vikings 0 Posted November 17, 2006 4-6 is the winning team. Why? The winning percentage is the same. It's a tie and the tie-breakers should kick in. Based on that do you prefer head-to-head or total points as the preferred tie breaker? I prefer total points because I believe that is the truer barometer of the best team (which is who I think should win the tie breaker). Head to head can be affected by bye weeks which is just a crap shoot of who you play that particularly bad bye week. Why be penalized by that if your team is outscoring the other team by 30 pts a game and he gets lucky by playing teams during off weeks all year......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeb9k 0 Posted November 17, 2006 4-6 wins. Wins trump all. No need for tie breaker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
delusional247 0 Posted November 17, 2006 How do you guys have teams that have multiple ties in a season? I have played FF for some 11 combined seasons over two years and have only had 3 ties alltogether in the league. heh team 1: 5-3-2: tied for 1st in his division with a 6-4 team, 2nd lowest points against team 2: 3-6-1: 3rd in his division team 3: 4-5-1: last in his division Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parja 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Why not just make it 2-points for a win and 1-point for a tie? 'Cuz there's no common denominator when a loss is 7 points. Duh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShaneFalco 0 Posted November 17, 2006 decimal scoring = no ties Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elemeno 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Why? The winning percentage is the same. It's a tie and the tie-breakers should kick in. Based on that do you prefer head-to-head or total points as the preferred tie breaker? I prefer total points because I believe that is the truer barometer of the best team (which is who I think should win the tie breaker). Head to head can be affected by bye weeks which is just a crap shoot of who you play that particularly bad bye week. Why be penalized by that if your team is outscoring the other team by 30 pts a game and he gets lucky by playing teams during off weeks all year......... how are the winning percentages the same? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 364 Posted November 17, 2006 They are tied in the standings. We have dealt with this issue before in one of my leagues. We use the NFL's tie breaker formula for playoff spots. The NFL considers a tie = half a win + half a loss. So two ties = 1 win + 1 loss. So the NFL considers 4-6 = 3-5-2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tripenny 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Throw my vote towards the 4 win team as edging the 3 win team, since the victory would seem the bottom line. My hope is that bkbergen won't have to deal with this seriously for a couple of weeks (when his league gets to the playoffs). Perhaps by then the situation will clear itself up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
npfl-vikings 0 Posted November 17, 2006 how are the winning percentages the same? tie = half a win and half a loss 2 ties = one win and one loss 3-5-2 = 4-6 Therefore same winning percentage...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Logan5 0 Posted November 17, 2006 4-6 has the better record.....3 points for a win, 1pt for a tie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lennie75 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Why do we play the game?? To win the damn game as the infamous Herm woudl say. This is easy the guy with 4 wins is in the lead. Get decimal scoring and come into the real world...this would never happen!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teeitupforgolf 0 Posted November 17, 2006 4 wins is more than 3 wins so the 4 win team is in the lead. In my league we have tiebreakers set up for each week so that we don't have to worry about a tie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeremy 0 Posted November 17, 2006 They are tied. Also, the best tie breaker is total points scored, not head-to-head or anything else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
urmother 0 Posted November 17, 2006 They are tied. Also, the best tie breaker is total points scored, not head-to-head or anything else. exactly. agree on both points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meatwad 2 Posted November 18, 2006 tie = half a win and half a loss 2 ties = one win and one loss 3-5-2 = 4-6 Therefore same winning percentage...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJJoe20 0 Posted November 18, 2006 Well, one team has 6 losses! This is a tie, using almost every sport other than hockey... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Let Da Big Dog Eat 37 Posted November 18, 2006 Saying that the 4 win team has a better record is the same as saying that a tie is closer to a loss than a win. How is this logical? Means that both teams essentially lost. If you wish to use this logic, why not say that a tie is somehow closer to a win than a loss? Team with the fewer losses has the better record. The only logical way (and the way the NFL treats it) is that a tie is 1/2 a W and 1/2 L. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meatwad 2 Posted November 18, 2006 Which is better, 4-6 or 3-5? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sneaker 0 Posted November 18, 2006 Not telling you that you should or shouldn't do it this way, but if you ignore the ties, what you have left is: 4-6 = .400 winning % 3-5 = .375 winning % Result: 4-6 record wins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 496 Posted November 18, 2006 http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakers NOTE: Tie games count as one-half win and one-half loss for both clubs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adam smitty 0 Posted November 18, 2006 Not telling you that you should or shouldn't do it this way, but if you ignore the ties, what you have left is: 4-6 = .400 winning % 3-5 = .375 winning % Result: 4-6 record wins. but a tie = 1/2 of a win and he has 2 ties. They have the same record then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Let Da Big Dog Eat 37 Posted November 18, 2006 Which is better, 4-6 or 3-5? That sir is not the question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
urmother 0 Posted November 18, 2006 Not telling you that you should or shouldn't do it this way, but if you ignore the ties, what you have left is: 4-6 = .400 winning % 3-5 = .375 winning % Result: 4-6 record wins. better winning percentage? 10-6 vs 9-5-2. ignore the ties, what you have left is 10-6 = 62.5% 9-5 = 64.3% so now the team with less wins goes? BONK! ties are worth .5 wins and .5 losses. only way to do it that makes sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PBH1963 0 Posted November 18, 2006 how do you calculate records with ties? I'm assuming there are still games to be played before the playoffs start. Don't worry about it, it will probably play itself out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites