jocstrap 8 Posted January 21, 2007 I guess we are about to find out if she is officially going to run this afternoon at the insurance event she's about to speak at. Bill as the first lady - how is this possible? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joneo 556 Posted January 21, 2007 Witht he candidates the Dems are putting up, I guess I will be voting for McCain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TylerRoseFan 16 Posted January 21, 2007 The dems are going to tear themselves apart in the primaries. It's not looking good for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAVID RUFFIN 2 Posted January 21, 2007 The dems are going to tear themselves apart in the primaries. It's not looking good for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravens 03 0 Posted January 21, 2007 I guess we are about to find out if she is officially going to run this afternoon ... She announced yesterday! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted January 21, 2007 I predicted this 3 years ago. Was laughed at on this very board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted January 21, 2007 She announced yesterday! First public speech to here it from the whorses mouth:) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rude Rick 0 Posted January 21, 2007 Hillary/Obama 08 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted January 21, 2007 Hillary/Obama 08 I kinda doubt it after the Clit-on machine gets done with Osama Obama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swamp dog 0 Posted January 22, 2007 the dems are shiatting on the golden platter. idiots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted January 22, 2007 The dems are going to tear themselves apart in the primaries. It's not looking good for them. Hey, StPaullyboy says there is no way, no how, Hitlery would go after her Dem rivals. It's all part of the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 356 Posted January 22, 2007 I don't mind the idea of a woman being president but Hillary Clinton Maybe adversaries would think with a woman in office any retaliation for their aggression would come with lesser consequences. That's the only potential drawback I can think of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fun Bags 0 Posted January 22, 2007 You would think the Dems could run a monkey out there and it would be good enough to win back the White House in the next election...Oh, wait, they are doing that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Let Da Big Dog Eat 40 Posted January 22, 2007 I don't mind the idea of a woman being president but Hillary Clinton Maybe adversaries would think with a woman in office any retaliation for their aggression would come with lesser consequences. That's the only potential drawback I can think of. You make an unproven assumption, that being that Hillary is a female rather than a Shemale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsbigmoni 1 Posted January 22, 2007 I don't mind the idea of a woman being president but Hillary Clinton Maybe adversaries would think with a woman in office any retaliation for their aggression would come with lesser consequences. That's the only potential drawback I can think of. I don't agree. England and India are two countries that have woman leaders so its not like we'll be the first country to do so. The only area i could see it having any effect is in the arab world, but i think all nation leaders know that a woman can handle office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Let Da Big Dog Eat 40 Posted January 22, 2007 I don't agree. England and India are two countries that have woman leaders so its not like we'll be the first country to do so. The only area i could see it having any effect is in the arab world, but i think all nation leaders know that a woman can handle office. England does not count as the Royalty are more of a soap opera and grocery store tabloit material than anything else. Certainly have no voice in the country's priorites. India's military pressence is like "what are you going to do? Throw cow dung at us?" Muslims are the current problem and they have 0 respect for women. They think that they should hide their faces, are not worthy of education and are about of equal value as a camel. What rock are you living under? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,315 Posted January 22, 2007 Hillary has the Dem nomination locked up. It behooves the talking heads to make it look like a race but unless she royally screws up, she's as close to a lock as we've seen. Obama, sorry, I just don't see it. The rest are all non-factors. The Hillary express will not be derailed. What's amazing me is the polls of potential GOP nominees. The top five- Guiliani, McCain, Romney, Gingrich, and Pataki are all really good. I's amazing to me. Really. I'm already seriously looking at them, a lot of them -heck at this point all of them- I'd vote for over Hillary. It's amazing. Now I know the DeLay machine is broken, but where are the Mindless Majority crowd? Where are the Bushtards? Is the evangelical nightmare really over? How come the top five GOP candidates are all so good? I'm still expecting Jerry Falwell to squeeze a turd candidate out of his ass that his Retarded Right minions can worship instead. Fortunatly the most obnoxious ones- Allen and Sanitarium- were flushed down the toilet in this last election. Who is this Brownback, is he the best the Falwell people can deliver? I suspect his poll numbers will surge soon when the stoopid ones hear more about him. I still don't think the GOP has it in them anymore to nominate somebody sane, but look at the Republican polls. OMG! It's too wonderful nothing but blue skies with my #1 overall -Guiliani- up front! I hope I'm wrong, I hope the GOP has reformed. The country needs two credible candidates. And I never wanted to be a Dem. Good grief, we may actually be able to vote FOR somebody in '08. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,315 Posted January 22, 2007 England does not count as the Royalty are more of a soap opera and grocery store tabloit material than anything else. Um ... you could use a lesson in modern British history. I'm thinking you must be very young because ... well...as anybody over 30 can tell you, the most famous/significant British leader since WWII is a woman but isn't the queen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Concrete Charlie 0 Posted January 22, 2007 Hillary Rodham giving out Cuban victory cigars in the Oval Office? What would Bill do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akaoni 0 Posted January 22, 2007 England does not count as the Royalty are more of a soap opera and grocery store tabloit material than anything else. Certainly have no voice in the country's priorites. Margaret Thatcher India's military pressence is like "what are you going to do? Throw cow dung at us?" Right, I mean it's not like India has nukes or anything... Muslims are the current problem and they have 0 respect for women. They think that they should hide their faces, are not worthy of education and are about of equal value as a camel. What rock are you living under? Actually, it's interesting to note that Pakistan, a Muslim country has had a female Prime Minister... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D_House 0 Posted January 22, 2007 What rock are you living under? oh.. my.. God... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted January 22, 2007 I could be wrong, but isn't Hillary the second most hated political figure in this country, behind Bush. Why the hell would she be running? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy1 0 Posted January 22, 2007 Margaret Thatcher Right, I mean it's not like India has nukes or anything... Actually, it's interesting to note that Pakistan, a Muslim country has had a female Prime Minister... Dang, 0 for 3. Not even a foul tip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,407 Posted January 22, 2007 I'm really disappointed to hear that Hillary Clinton is running. Hillary can win the Dem primary but she has NO shot whatsoever to win a general election and become president, none. How can she not see that? Given that Hillary has no chance, why force other Dem candidates - some of whom do have a shot - into a hard, expensive primary battle? The shame of it is, I think Hillary would be a terrific behind the scenes type fundraiser, but she's putting her vanity over her party and her country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted January 22, 2007 Clinton/Obama Running on the Whitewater-Cokehead ticket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy1 0 Posted January 22, 2007 I'm really disappointed to hear that Hillary Clinton is running. Hillary can win the Dem primary but she has NO shot whatsoever to win a general election and become president, none. How can she not see that? Given that Hillary has no chance, why force other Dem candidates - some of whom do have a shot - into a hard, expensive primary battle? The shame of it is, I think Hillary would be a terrific behind the scenes type fundraiser, but she's putting her vanity over her party and her country. If what you say is true(IMO, too early to make that decision) then the Dems don't deserve to win the Presidancy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottk 0 Posted January 22, 2007 I think she (or he-she) has an excellent chance at winning the whole thing. Most of the Dems, half of the women..... God help us if I'm right (for once). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsjjw 0 Posted January 22, 2007 I am voting for her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 996 Posted January 22, 2007 Hillary can win the Dem primary but she has NO shot whatsoever to win a general election and become president, none. Agreed she has NO CHANCE of winning the general election... but I don't think she has much of winning the Democratic ticket either. Even the biggest liberal democrats in the world are a little turned off by her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsjjw 0 Posted January 22, 2007 Agreed she has NO CHANCE of winning the general election... but I don't think she has much of winning the Democratic ticket either. Even the biggest liberal democrats in the world are a little turned off by her. Therein lies ther problem with the Democratic party. Is the left wing going to nominate someone that has no chance of winning over the independent voters? or will the support a moderate who they do not like? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted January 22, 2007 I am voting for her. I guess Hillary has the cumdumpster vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsjjw 0 Posted January 22, 2007 I guess Hillary has the cumdumpster vote. Still being petty sweetheart? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy1 0 Posted January 22, 2007 Therein lies ther problem with the Democratic party. Is the left wing going to nominate someone that has no chance of winning over the independent voters? or will the support a moderate who they do not like? Haven't really thought much about it, but from the little I read isn't she pretty moderate for a Democrat? At least on the record per her voting, I'm not really interested in "she's a wolf in sheep's clothing". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsjjw 0 Posted January 22, 2007 Haven't really thought much about it, but from the little I read isn't she pretty moderate for a Democrat? At least on the record per her voting, I'm not really interested in "she's a wolf in sheep's clothing". She is a heart a liberal who has done very well to portray herself as being a moderate. Her team is working to build the same 'only moderates are electable' image surrounding her that worked for Bill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 996 Posted January 22, 2007 She is a heart a liberal who has done very well to portray herself as being a moderate. Her team is working to build the same 'only moderates are electable' image surrounding her that worked for Bill. They've got their work cut out. Most Americans consider Hillary the poster child of liberalism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsjjw 0 Posted January 22, 2007 They've got their work cut out. Most Americans consider Hillary the poster child of liberalism. If I recall she has $20 million left over from her Senate campaign, and plans to raise $100 million which mean she doesn't have to apply to federal matching funds, as in, she can raise and spend as much as she wants. $100 million is a lot of cash to paint yourself as being in the middle, especially with her voting record lately, and to paint everyone else as being far far far to the left of her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PackerAttacker 0 Posted January 22, 2007 Im calling it now.... When Hillary or Obama lose the election... it will be blamed on racism/sexism and thats all youll hear about for weeks. Guaranteed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
