when the vikings move to los angeles

[swamp dog 0]

ram? titans?

 

discuss.

[bigtuna 0]

Colts are going to the NFC North and the Rams are going to the AFC South as far as i have heard.

[swamp dog 0]

Colts are going to the NFC North and the Rams are going to the AFC South as far as i have heard.

 

 

and yet, it makes perferct sense.

[Slobknocker 0]

Colts are going to the NFC North and the Rams are going to the AFC South as far as i have heard.

 

I think you mean the other way around, at least that is what they are saying on the Twin Cities radio, what very little they are saying. The Colts are staying in the AFC. The Vikings and the Rams switch. The Rams switch because they lost their say in realignment with the move to St. Lou from LA

[dominus florenzus 0]

whoa, when is this happening???

[Striker99 0]

whoa, when is this happening???

 

Vikings are moving ?! someone inform me

[kutulu 1,676]

Vikings are moving ?! someone inform me

 

 

POSTED 11:34 a.m. EST, March 10, 2007

 

VIKES TANKING IT?

 

Tom Powers of the St. Paul Pioneer Press reports that there is growing suspicion in the Twin Cities that Vikings owner Zygi Wilf is purposely running the franchise into the ground in an effort to set the stage for a move to greener pastures.

 

Although we find it highly unlikely that any NFL team would try to lose in the short term in the hopes of killing local interest so that a move would be met with cheers instead of jeers, there's evidence that a relocation could be in the team's future.

 

Though Wilf expressed a strong desire to keep the team in Minnesota when he purchased the property from Red McCombs in 2005, Wilf's minions are now singing a slightly different tune.

 

The team's V.P. in charge of stadium development, Lester Bagley, recently had this to say about the sputtering efforts to build a new venue: "At some point [Governor Tim Pawlenty] is going to have to help us find a solution to this long-standing issue. He has long told our ownership that he wants to work with us to solve the Vikings' stadium problem, to keep us healthy and in this state."

 

If the team is never moving out of Minnesota on Wilf's watch, the phrase "in this state" has the same meaning in that passage as would the terms "in this country" or "on this planet." As we see it, then, those last three words were intended to put the people on notice, implicitly for now, that the Minnesota football team could soon join the former Minnesota basketball team in Southern California, if a new stadium isn't built.

 

But making the team into a stinker isn't the way to leverage a new deal. Especially since the fickle L.A. fan base wouldn't be too keen on a team that has zero prospects under Zygi of delivering victory on a consistent basis.

 

profootballtalk.com

[dreadlocks34 0]

I'm sure the NFL owners are all over giving up a potential billion dollar expansion fee to let an existing team move to a market in which there is no possibilty ever in any capacity for public funding for a stadium.

 

Los Angeles with always to be NFL owners as education and health care are to democratic politicans, wonderful to use as talking points but not something they will actually ever let happen.

 

By the way this article was written by Tom Powers. I am pretty sure with his creative genius he went back and took the same piece he wrote about Red McCombs several years back and just changed his name to Zygi. Except he actually was cheap.

Tom Powers is about as worthwhile as Shooter or Sansvere and every other beat writer between the two papers.

[santa*69 0]

I'm sure the NFL owners are all over giving up a potential billion dollar expansion fee to let an existing team move to a market in which there is no possibilty ever in any capacity for public funding for a stadium.

 

Los Angeles with always to be NFL owners as education and health care are to democratic politicans, wonderful to use as talking points but not something they will actually ever let happen.

 

By the way this article was written by Tom Powers. I am pretty sure with his creative genius he went back and took the same piece he wrote about Red McCombs several years back and just changed his name to Zygi. Except he actually was cheap.

Tom Powers is about as worthwhile as Shooter or Sansvere and every other beat writer between the two papers.

 

 

Wow thanks for saving my time. Ditto! This was written by the same people who told you Ohio State was the number 1 team in the country. In football and basketball I might add.

[Super Cubs 154]

Why does the NFL want a team in LA so bad?

 

I remember when LA was competing with Houston it seemed like LA got more than enough chances to get their act together and get a team. When Houston had all their ducks in a row it seemed like the time line would get pushed back to give LA another chance and another and so on. Until they desided to give Houston a chance.

 

Why did the Rams and Raiders leave?

[R8RMick 242]

The Los Angeles Coliseum Commission has sent the chances of professional football arriving in LA back to the stone ages.

 

And the fans there are not really a disgrace, they're just comprised of a conglomeration of carpetbabbing transplants from every one of the fifty states except maybe Hawaii and Florida.

 

We'll always have that Raider Super Bowl victory in 1984 though...

[hyness 0]

Why did the Rams and Raiders leave?

 

Because Georgia is a stupid ho who ruined the Rams after Carl Rosenblum died, and Al Davis is a senile old coot?

[AlamoReg 1]

The bigger question is: do most LA residents even want a football team? There's a ton of transplants that live there, and as it is, they almost always get the best TV games, no blackouts, no forced home team broadcasts.

 

Would they rather watch good matchups weekly, or be force-fed the freaking LA Vikings every week?

[Parja 0]

Tom Powers of the St. Paul Pioneer Press

 

That's all you need to know. The story is at least 50% a fabrication.

[Hagy34 0]

More and more it seems that this is a sad truth. It truly sucks that an owner can come in and just move a team with so much support...we sell out the dome every week, people bleed purple. It pisses me off that there is even talk about a move. A franchise that people love is turning into one of the biggest jokes in the league. Childress is an idiot. Wilf looks more and more like a greedy as*hole. Viking fans and NFC north fans for that matter are getting screwed. Sure those packer, bears and lions fans may not like the vikes but admit you love the whole NFC North rivalry.

[Captian America 0]

I think if a team moves from one city to another it should not take the mascot name. The Los Angeles Vikings sounds stupid the Vikings never went to California.

[swamp dog 0]

I think if a team moves from one city to another it should not take the mascot name. The Los Angeles Vikings sounds stupid the Vikings never went to California.

 

maybe the los angeles spaniards? latinos? mexicans? non-whites? aztecs?

[nobody 2,669]

I agree. Everyone knows the Vikings spent all their time in Minnesota.

 

Also, I don't think So Cal even wants a team. We got enough crap going on without another team out here crying about wanting some crap. It's not like Wisconsin where there's nothing to do but watch football.

 

The bigger question is: do most LA residents even want a football team? There's a ton of transplants that live there, and as it is, they almost always get the best TV games, no blackouts, no forced home team broadcasts.

 

Would they rather watch good matchups weekly, or be force-fed the freaking LA Vikings every week?

 

 

Actually, they force us to watch the Chargers or Raiders every week, but at least there aren't any blackouts.

[Let Da Big Dog Eat 40]

maybe the los angeles spaniards? latinos? mexicans? non-whites? aztecs?

 

LA Drive By's?

[RLLD 4,230]

The LA mana-yers...

[shovelheadt 71]

This was written by the same people who told you Ohio State was the number 1 team in the country. In football and basketball I might add.

 

Will you please shut the fock up. If you can't add anything intelligent to a conversation, then take your bullsh*t elsewhere...like over to the geek board.

[Voice_Of_Reason 0]

I think if a team moves from one city to another it should not take the mascot name. The Los Angeles Vikings sounds stupid the Vikings never went to California.

LA Lakers...

[Sho Nuff 720]

Wow thanks for saving my time. Ditto! This was written by the same people who told you Ohio State was the number 1 team in the country. In football and basketball I might add.

 

Dude...your obsession with OSU is a bit scary...and they are the #1 team in Basketball.

[pimptastic69 0]

I think if a team moves from one city to another it should not take the mascot name. The Los Angeles Vikings sounds stupid the Vikings never went to California.

 

Be weary when they drop "Vi" from the name and start calling themselves the "Kings".

[LunaTick 30]

NFL wants a team there because of

 

Media Market

Hollywood

Beverly Hills (wherever address that has money)

Sex appeal

 

 

The reason LA sucks for NFL

Stadium will be tough, regardless of who pays for the building.

Fan support, if it was there politicians would be paying for a stadium.

USC/UCLA - seems wherever college football is strong, pro football is weak and visa versa.

 

Zygi is a developer

He just wants the best ROI

Wants to be in the NFL Club.

 

Why did the league want the General Mills execs out?

Why does the league seak out incompotent owners (Daniel Snyder)?

These are questions I never expect answers to be given

[Belushi 9]

Be weary when they drop "Vi" from the name and start calling themselves the "Kings".

 

Why should them dropping the "Vi" make me tired?

 

But besides that, why would the owner want to move? Does the Viking's stadium suck? If they're selling out every game, why leave? Merchandising?

[Phurfur 70]

More and more it seems that this is a sad truth. It truly sucks that an owner can come in and just move a team with so much support...we sell out the dome every week, people bleed purple. It pisses me off that there is even talk about a move. A franchise that people love is turning into one of the biggest jokes in the league. Childress is an idiot. Wilf looks more and more like a greedy as*hole. Viking fans and NFC north fans for that matter are getting screwed. Sure those packer, bears and lions fans may not like the vikes but admit you love the whole NFC North rivalry.

 

 

This s not about the fans it is about your politicians refusing to replace the Metrodome. If a small community like Green Bay can help fund a $280 Million renovation, what is wrong with Minnesota. Stadiums are a source of revenue that is essential for a frachise to compete. Almost every other city gets this, what is wrong with Minnesota?

[Parja 0]

LA Lakers...

 

Exactly. LA already has a precedent of stealing a team from Minnesota and keeping a name that doesn't make any sense.

 

This s not about the fans it is about your politicians refusing to replace the Metrodome. If a small community like Green Bay can help fund a $280 Million renovation, what is wrong with Minnesota. Stadiums are a source of revenue that is essential for a frachise to compete. Almost every other city gets this, what is wrong with Minnesota?

 

Well, my understanding is that they had a deal with Anoka (a northern suburb of the Twin Cities) to build a new stadium there, but apparently the team backed out of that deal, saying they want to build a new stadium in downtown Minneapolis.

[mozzy84 0]

Why should them dropping the "Vi" make me tired?

 

But besides that, why would the owner want to move? Does the Viking's stadium suck? If they're selling out every game, why leave? Merchandising?

yea it does revenue wise, with the twins and gophers getting new stadium deals the vikes won't be far off. This peice was by a guy who has never written anything good/accurate about the vikings, I wouldn't read anything into it at all.

[DrJ 0]

It seems strange that they would go through the trouble of putting plans together for a new kickass stadium if all they wanted to do was to move.

[pimptastic69 0]

Why should them dropping the "Vi" make me tired?

 

 

Because they'd be called the California Kings.

[LunaTick 30]

It seems strange that they would go through the trouble of putting plans together for a new kickass stadium if all they wanted to do was to move.

 

The Vikings and the NFL are contractually committed to the Metrodome until 2011.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrodome

 

Red Green and the League had already tried to get out of the lease, or should I state the State of Minnesota took them to court to enforce it.

 

So it isn't something that Wilf can do anytime today or tomorrow.

But 2011 isn't really that far off.

 

 

State/County/City in Minnesota are more apt to contribute public monies than any jurisdiction in California will.

But their is enough wealth in that media market for a private facility to be built. IE Washington or New York.

However even this would require public improvements that may not be easily approved in CA.

 

But step 1 in moving this team is to destroy the fan base. Especially anyone who might pursue a class action against the team and league.

Apathy is the friend of the team.

 

Oh, btw, do you not think Reds "Purple Pride" campaign and introduction of a dinosaur was not a joke and an attempt to move this team.

 

BTW, how many "lakers" existed in LA before that team moved there?

[Phurfur 70]

The Vikings and the NFL are contractually committed to the Metrodome until 2011.

 

 

Too bad because the Metrodome is dump.

[nobody 2,669]

Exactly. LA already has a precedent of stealing a team from Minnesota and keeping a name that doesn't make any sense.

 

Yeah, but the Vikings don't make sense for Minnesota either.

[Phurfur 70]

Yeah, but the Vikings don't make sense for Minnesota either.

 

 

I guess you don't know the area.

[nobody 2,669]

I guess you don't know the area.

Are you sarcastically calling Minnesotans vikings or did vikings really hang out in Minnesota?

[t.j 35]

The Lakers stuck with their name and their purple and gold when they moved from Minneapolis to L.A.

Why shouldn't the Vikings do the same?

[Vikings4ever 550]

Are you sarcastically calling Minnesotans vikings or did vikings really hang out in Minnesota?

A fair portion of Minnesotans are of Norse ancestory, and it's quite possible that Vikings did make it to Minnesota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_Runestone).

[nobody 2,669]

A fair portion of Minnesotans are of Norse ancestory, and it's quite possible that Vikings did make it to Minnesota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_Runestone).

I'll accept the Norse ancestry thing, but I think the whole vikings actually being in Minny is nothing but jive!

[LunaTick 30]

This s not about the fans it is about your politicians refusing to replace the Metrodome. If a small community like Green Bay can help fund a $280 Million renovation, what is wrong with Minnesota. Stadiums are a source of revenue that is essential for a frachise to compete. Almost every other city gets this, what is wrong with Minnesota?

 

There is a lack of strong willed leadership as a whole.

They exist, but they have chosen not to battle on this topic.

 

The difficulty though has been when the battle began to replace the stadium

the tactics used by the various Vikings ownership groups to get a stadium.

Heavy handed turns off the rail sitters and fuels the anti groups.

But starting to replace a stadium when it was only 10 to 15 seasons into its used was a hard sell to make.

Especially when the Dome was built for the Vikes.

 

Tie into this the Redbune, who owns parking lots around the dome, would preach against a new Stadium. One of the loyal supporters for building the Dome.

 

It just has required the right political atmosphere.

 

Exactly. LA already has a precedent of stealing a team from Minnesota and keeping a name that doesn't make any sense.

Well, my understanding is that they had a deal with Anoka (a northern suburb of the Twin Cities) to build a new stadium there, but apparently the team backed out of that deal, saying they want to build a new stadium in downtown Minneapolis.

 

The deal in Anoka was crushed through a political ploy by the antis'.

Their first tactic was to try and get locals to be against this.

Which made absolutely no sense. The new stadium would have triggered new highways, infrastructure, and other development perks ahead of the Met Council Planning for the area.

 

The second, but effective tactic, was to attack the developments proposed impact of the wetlands on the site.

Requesting for Environmental impacts of the site.

 

Anoka is an example of the right political atmosphere.

But the wrong geographical location. Though some may contain the right red neck ratio.

 

Least cost from an infrastructure is to build it in the down town area.

 

But the next best political move would be to attempt to tie into the current infrastructure debate.

Improvements to the Interstate system and the expansion of light rail.

 

Though either will get attacks rolling from the anti groups, who mainly see any increase in funding for anything should go to a few social programs already well funded (though they think they aren't)

Biggest problem is these people have never been to an airport the days before and after an NFL game.

Or have gone to Phoenix for baseball spring training.

They do not understand the potential for sports vacationing taxable revenue, much less the amount that Garnetts salary goes into the state coffers.

 

the antis are small minded twits that cannot see a difference between stadium funding and funding of things like museums, parks, etc.