JetsFan28 0 Posted March 13, 2007 What makes Vandy a better team than Wazzu? Washington State is very susceptible to the three ball. All five of Vanderbilt's starters can knock down the three ball. WSU also just looked pretty bad against USC as they went 10-16 from behind the arc. A good shooting team can take out the Cougars and being that there usually are upsets in the NCAA Tournament, I look for Vandy to possibly be one of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 13, 2007 Oh, my bad. You're saying Albany is good because last year they played well against a good team for a little while and return 2 guards. Yep, you got me, I'm the one who looks like a dipshit. In case you missed it this thread is about trying to pick some sleepers. The fact that almost the same Albany team had a #1 seed down by 12 points with 8 minutes left in the game in last years NCAA tells me that yeah, this team can play with the big boys and does not have the "just happy to be here" mentality. UVA is reeling and is no where near the team that last years Uconn was. Therefore, it is logical that Albany has a really good shot to upset a #4 seed in this years tourney. Keep up, you may learn something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted March 13, 2007 Off the top of my head, teams that very realistically can get to Sweet 16 and beyond: Wright St Winthrop Virg Comm Old Dominion Long Beach St Xavier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirty dug 0 Posted March 13, 2007 In case you missed it this thread is about trying to pick some sleepers. The fact that almost the same Albany team had a #1 seed down by 12 points with 8 minutes left in the game in last years NCAA tells me that yeah, this team is can play with the big boys and does not have the "just happy to be here" mentality. UVA is reeling and is no where near the team that last years Uconn was. Therefore, it is logical that Albany has a really good shot to upset a #4 seed in this years tourney. Keep up, you may learn something. You're talking about last year as if it is even remotely relevant to this year. You of course know that they lost 2 of their 3 leading scorers from that Uconn game, right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JetsFan28 0 Posted March 13, 2007 Now that I look at it, UNLV has a realistic chance of going to the Elite 8. Georgia Tech, Wisconsin, and Oregon are all beatable. I'm having a tough time pulling the trigger though. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 13, 2007 You're talking about last year as if it is even remotely relevant to this year. You of course know that they lost 2 of their 3 leading scorers from that Uconn game, right. You honestly don't think NCAA tournament experience counts for anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirty dug 0 Posted March 13, 2007 Washington State is very susceptible to the three ball. All five of Vanderbilt's starters can knock down the three ball. WSU also just looked pretty bad against USC as they went 10-16 from behind the arc. A good shooting team can take out the Cougars and being that there usually are upsets in the NCAA Tournament, I look for Vandy to possibly be one of them. Interesting. I'm very weary of Vandy, I'm not so sure they have what it takes, their resume is very suspect. They're field goal defense percentage is ranked 181 in the NCAA and their scoring defense is 221st. Compare that to Wazzu's field goal % defense which is ranked 34th and scoring defense which is 15th. Something is obviosly going to have to give. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,665 Posted March 13, 2007 Off the top of my head, teams that very realistically can get to Sweet 16 and beyond: Wright St Winthrop Virg Comm Old Dominion Long Beach St Xavier This campus is 15 minutes up the road from me, am I missing something here? I think they get pounded in round 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirty dug 0 Posted March 13, 2007 You honestly don't think NCAA tournament experience counts for anything? No, I don't think it counts for much. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Albany can't beat Virginia, I just don't think a good reason is because a different Albany team last year kept it close for a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 13, 2007 No, I don't think it counts for much. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Albany can't beat Virginia, I just don't think a good reason is because a different Albany team last year kept it close for a while. They have 3 starters from that team back including their two best players. Why do you keep insisting this is a totally different Albany team? And they had the game tied against Uconn with 6 minutes left in the GAME, not "kept it close for a while". Your hyperbole's know no bounds. "Guard Jamar Wilson is the best player in the league, and Jason Siggers and Brent Wilson were both starters on last year's team. They know how to win, and they can do it anywhere. Coach Will Brown will have Albany ready to play, but with this veteran squad, he doesn't need to focus too much on getting them mentally prepared" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted March 13, 2007 This campus is 15 minutes up the road from me, am I missing something here? I think they get pounded in round 1. Pitt is overrated, and is way too dependent on the 3 ball. They are strictly a home court team. Wright St dominated the Horizon tourney, and is playing their best ball of the year. They were not the most talented team in their league, but beat out better talent in squads like Butler, Loy Chic, etc to get the auto bid. They simply are the best "team" from the Horizon. I just don't think the Big East overall and Pitt specifically is all that good. I watched a number of Pitt games this year. If the 3 ball isn't falling, they could get lose by double digits in this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JetsFan28 0 Posted March 13, 2007 Interesting. I'm very weary of Vandy, I'm not so sure they have what it takes, their resume is very suspect. They're field goal defense percentage is ranked 181 in the NCAA and their scoring defense is 221st. Compare that to Wazzu's field goal % defense which is ranked 34th and scoring defense which is 15th. Something is obviosly going to have to give. Washington St likes to control the tempo, so as long as Vandy is hitting their shots, I don't see why they would have any trouble with the Cougars. My real question is who wins the Vandy/GW game as GW is a dangerous team as well. Now may I ask you: your thoughts on that game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirty dug 0 Posted March 13, 2007 Washington St likes to control the tempo, so as long as Vandy is hitting their shots, I don't see why they would have any trouble with the Cougars. My real question is who wins the Vandy/GW game as GW is a dangerous team as well. Now may I ask you: your thoughts on that game? You know, I got my MBA from GW and still live in NoVa, and I don't know sh!t about GW! I can't decide on this game, I honestly am leaning toward GW. GW's field goal defense is worse than Vandy's (61st) but I think they'll be able to score (Vandy gives up 71 a game, GW averages 71 a game). I think GW is a slashing team, it appears they don't shoot the three much. But they also don't hit their free throws that well (70%). I think I'm going to move Vandy through, but I think this is a close game in the low 60's. I really don't like this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JetsFan28 0 Posted March 13, 2007 You know, I got my MBA from GW and still live in NoVa, and I don't know sh!t about GW! I can't decide on this game, I honestly am leaning toward GW. GW's field goal defense is worse than Vandy's (61st) but I think they'll be able to score (Vandy gives up 71 a game, GW averages 71 a game). I think GW is a slashing team, it appears they don't shoot the three much. But they also don't hit their free throws that well (70%). I think I'm going to move Vandy through, but I think this is a close game in the low 60's. I really don't like this game. I feel that GW is a strong team as well and on a tear after winning the A-10, but I'm going to hope that the solid team from the SEC gets hot and takes this game as I think Vandy would have the better chance at beating Washington St. Also, you know anything about UNLV? I just penciled them into the Elite 8 because I think that they're a really good team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirty dug 0 Posted March 13, 2007 I feel that GW is a strong team as well and on a tear after winning the A-10, but I'm going to hope that the solid team from the SEC gets hot and takes this game as I think Vandy would have the better chance at beating Washington St. Also, you know anything about UNLV? I just penciled them into the Elite 8 because I think that they're a really good team. Nothing really, haven't really paid attention to them. I currently have them losing to Wisconsin, but I'm not in love with Wisky at all. I plan on looking at that bracket a little closer tonight. The one thing is, UNLV doesn't rebound well and only shoots around 45% from the field (mid level ranking). Not sure what to think about them. They're playing another team I didn't think did enough to get in, Georgia Tech. Tech can score and rebound, but defending is their issue. If it comes down to free throws, Tech is 68%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 996 Posted March 16, 2007 From the looks of things, there are a lot of screwed up brackets out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted March 16, 2007 Off the top of my head, teams that very realistically can get to Sweet 16 and beyond: Wright St Winthrop Virg Comm Old Dominion Long Beach St Xavier Meh. Could be better, could be worse, so far. Need Winthrop and Long Beach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dj_stouty 0 Posted March 16, 2007 I've enjoyed re-reading all of those posts from the idiot who actually thought Albany had a shot against UVA. Guess their "impressive performance" against Connecticut LAST YEAR didn't help them THIS YEAR, huh? Dumba$$... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted March 16, 2007 I've enjoyed re-reading all of those posts from the idiot who actually thought Albany had a shot against UVA. Guess their "impressive performance" against Connecticut LAST YEAR didn't help them THIS YEAR, huh? Dumba$$... He's possibly a dumba$$. You're definitely an a$$hole. Guy picks a deep sleeper in a thread asking for just that. I'm sure he's sufficiently chagrined about that pick, but it's one of 32 in the first round alone. It would truly take a douche to call him names and make a big deal of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted March 16, 2007 My sleeper pick? The Valley State Narcoleptics. duh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 16, 2007 I've enjoyed re-reading all of those posts from the idiot who actually thought Albany had a shot against UVA. Guess their "impressive performance" against Connecticut LAST YEAR didn't help them THIS YEAR, huh? Dumba$$... This thread was about picking deep sleepers in the NCAA first round. Any logical person would assume that most of these LONG SHOT picks would not turn out. How about this, since Florida won the whole thing last year, and brought back most of their whole team, I predict that they will win their next game. That way when they win I can come back and say how smart I am. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirty dug 0 Posted March 16, 2007 so I guess I was right when I said using last year's game against UConn wasn't really a solid reason why this year's Albany team will be good. All I wanted was maybe an analysis on this years team, all I got was they returned two guards. Either way, I know I'm a dumbass who picked Creighton and Georgia Tech. Oh yeah, and Old Dominion into the Sweet 16. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,668 Posted March 16, 2007 The only true sleeper I have is Illinois beating VaTech. I had Winthrop over ND, but I think a whole lot of people picked that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JetsFan28 0 Posted March 18, 2007 Interesting. I'm very weary of Vandy, I'm not so sure they have what it takes, their resume is very suspect. They're field goal defense percentage is ranked 181 in the NCAA and their scoring defense is 221st. Compare that to Wazzu's field goal % defense which is ranked 34th and scoring defense which is 15th. Something is obviosly going to have to give. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Blue 06 195 Posted March 18, 2007 Without reading through this thread, did anybody get any of these right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chronic Husker 85 Posted March 18, 2007 Without reading through this thread, did anybody get any of these right? Somehow, JetsFan28 is the only one in the thread that's not retarded. He called Vandy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirty dug 0 Posted March 18, 2007 Yeah, I screwed the pooch on that one. I really didn't see this run from Vandy happening. They certainly turned up the intensity. Nice call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted March 18, 2007 Pretty sure I have Maryland and Marquette in the sweet 16. Doh! Doesn't matter though .... anyone else have Kansas to win it all (Geek pool)? That's where the big points are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites