CantTouchThis 23 Posted May 27, 2007 The question has kind of bewildered me for a while. I noticed that about 70-80% of the poor people i know or see(like at k-mart or something) are fat. I am not talking just 10-20 pounds, just husky or a bit chubby type of fat, i am talking like really fat or obese, like many pounds overweight, chicks the size of volkswagon beetles. This country may be the only country in the world were the poor are actually over-fed, even more than the non-poor people. My conclusion is that in order to be poor in this country, you have to be very lazy, unfocused and irresponsible. I mean, i honestly don't get how you can actually not make over the poverty line in this country, other than being just very irresponsible and extremly lazy. Hell, i am not even in college yet(17 yo) and i could make over the poverty line if i choose not to go to school. That laziness causes them to not want to workout or really even move on most days, and since they probably collect welfare checks or food stamps, they can still buy a crapload of fattening foods. Thus they blow up like a balloon....a balloon full of lard. That is really why, in most cases, i have no sympothy for poor people. In this country, as long as you are responsible and focus and work hard, you can at least be a middle class citizen. Poverty sticken people in this country wouldn't come close to surviving in almost any other country in the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hdaddy 18 Posted May 27, 2007 They just digest slowly!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyTom 0 Posted May 27, 2007 My guess is that it is tied to self-esteem. The hoity are a little more vain with their appearance. Plus they have the resources for that Pilates or spinning classes as well. Similarly, I have always believed that smokers are the most depressed people as well. Misery loves company. When was the last time you overheard nothing but good news and platitudes at a smoke break? Those groupings are nothing more than a sea of human gripe. To your point about one's physical condition, I believe (and I am sure the statistics are behind it) that the poor tend to smoke more as well - simply from the same conclusions of their feelings about their lives in general. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted May 27, 2007 I think the $1 menu a McDonald's is to blame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Let Da Big Dog Eat 40 Posted May 27, 2007 My guess is that it is tied to self-esteem. The hoity are a little more vain with their appearance. Plus they have the resources for that Pilates or spinning classes as well. Similarly, I have always believed that smokers are the most depressed people as well. Misery loves company. When was the last time you overheard nothing but good news and platitudes at a smoke break? Those groupings are nothing more than a sea of human gripe. To your point about one's physical condition, I believe (and I am sure the statistics are behind it) that the poor tend to smoke more as well - simply from the same conclusions of their feelings about their lives in general. Most of the time, you are spot on IndyTom but you could not be more wrong in this one. I am a smoker and am probably the most optimistic person I have ever known. Self-made, retired at 56. And, I know a boatload of people just like me. Back on topic. If one is making more $ (or close) sitting on welfare than working, why work? And, if one does not work, sitting around doing nothing every day leads to eating Ho Ho's all day is to be expected. It is what is wrong with the welfare, entitlement mentality of this country. If you don't care about who you are, why should you care about what you look like? Just complain, whine and invent crap like BBW and expect people to get on board or claim discrimination (hey, that got me a Welfare Check, why not use it to explain my fat ass). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted May 27, 2007 I am a smoker and am probably the most optimistic person I have ever known. Self-made, retired at 56. And, I know a boatload of people just like me. smoking at 56+? how optimistic is your doctor? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted May 27, 2007 My guess is that it is tied to self-esteem. The hoity are a little more vain with their appearance. Plus they have the resources for that Pilates or spinning classes as well. Similarly, I have always believed that smokers are the most depressed people as well. Misery loves company. When was the last time you overheard nothing but good news and platitudes at a smoke break? Those groupings are nothing more than a sea of human gripe. To your point about one's physical condition, I believe (and I am sure the statistics are behind it) that the poor tend to smoke more as well - simply from the same conclusions of their feelings about their lives in general. Oh yeah, i forgot what was suppose to be another point on why poor people suck .They ALL smoke. They complain how they can't pay rent, yet they have, what, 4 bucks a day/30 a week/120 a month to buy a pack of cigs a day??? Where the hell is the logic in that??? Yeah, pretty much all poor people i know usually have low self esteem and are just pretty miserable people, really they say smoking is the one thing that makes them happy...very very sad I think the $1 menu a McDonald's is to blame. The reason i know so many poor people is because i work at McDonalds. I do get along with really everyone, but, i can't help but notice that they are mostly fat slobs and about 90% smoke. I brought up the point that people who don't smoke should get a raise since they don't need a 10 minute smoking break every hour or two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 807 Posted May 27, 2007 I think the $1 menu a McDonald's is to blame. I'd have to agree with this... fatty/disgusting fast food is cheaper than hell.... Food better for you is about 3x the price. For instance bread... big fat loaf of white bread... a buck... half loaf whole grainy with the bits of nuts in it... 3 something.. 20/80 Hamburger is like what 2 bucks a pound.... 96/4 Hamburger is like damned near 4 bucks a pound. Organic milk... much more... the good eggs.. much more... sugary as hell pop... cheap... big fat sacks of candy.. cheap... healthy food is spensive unless your eating nothing but fruit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted May 27, 2007 as long as poor ppl can afford to stuff their faces, watch cable tv, smoke, drink and talk on the phone...the gov't has nothing to worry about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RicemanX 20 Posted May 27, 2007 poor people make bad choices. thats why they are poor in the first place. Bad choices = McDs, Burger King,Taco Bell, KFC, etc And when you are a kid and raised in that environment, you are just going to keep at it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted May 27, 2007 I brought up the point that people who don't smoke should get a raise since they don't need a 10 minute smoking break every hour or two. amen....smokers should be fired for requesting an extra break..go work an outdoor job... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sawilson 1 Posted May 27, 2007 poor people make bad choices. thats why they are poor in the first place. Bad choices = McDs, Burger King,Taco Bell, KFC, etc And when you are a kid and raised in that environment, you are just going to keep at it. I'm going to have to disagree with this one. It can be true in a lot of cases, but not all the time. I was raised in an environment like that. No dad and mom just didn't like to work. Always had an excuse of some kind why she couldn't or some other BS. I told myself at a very young age that I would NEVER be on welfare and work my ass off to get everything that I have in life. I think it's a choice. Reminds me of that movie Dangerous Minds, you have a choice every day. Kids that live in the hood have the choice to get on the bus and go to school. Same thing in this type of situation. Kids that grow up in an environment like that have a choice. Is this the way you want to live the rest of your life and raise your children. I chose no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riddlen 1 Posted May 27, 2007 I am well off and succesful and fat because of the mcdonalds $1 menu (and taco bell) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hurricane Ditka 0 Posted May 27, 2007 Poor people are not fat because of McDonalds/Taco Bell/KFC/etc. I think this has much more to do with people that are struggling let themself go in most areas of their life. For example they most likely live in dirty housing, have run down transportation and clothing. A certain amount of laziness is to blame and this has nothing to do with fast food. It would have to do with any food and a lack of activity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted May 27, 2007 My guess is that it is tied to self-esteem. The hoity are a little more vain with their appearance. Plus they have the resources for that Pilates or spinning classes as well. Interesting comment. I completely agree about your "hoity" comment. My wife and I fall into this, and my wife in particular exercises like a madwoman, mostly for taekwondo but somewhat for vanity as well. As for the resources... it is a matter of priority. My SIL has gotten quite fat over the years. A while back on vacation she made a snide comment to my wife about "it would be nice if I could have a personal trainer blah blah blah." You know what? It would also be nice if you stopped snacking on shiot every 20 minutes. She is not exactly poor either, she just prefers subconsciously to wallow in her fattitude instead of getting off her ass and doing something about it. I don't think it is a poor/rich thing, except to agree with others that poor people in general lack both the confidence and the willingness to work towards something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted May 27, 2007 Gotta love sweeping generalizations based on a whopping 17 years of life experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brown Eyed Girl 1 Posted May 27, 2007 Agree with those who commented that being poor has little to do with being overweight. There was a thread here some time ago having something to do with poor people being unable to workout because they couldn't afford gym memberships. You obviously don't need to belong to a gym to take care of your body and take a little pride in your overall appearance. There are several ways to effectively workout and take care of yourself without the costly expense of a gym. Eating right is number one. Sure, diet foods are more costly, but it doesn’t cost anymore (in fact you will save $$) to limit your portions and say, “No” to second helpings. It also doesn’t usually cost more money to select the ‘Light’ version in lieu of the ‘full of fat’ version of whatever you were buying anyways. I think your grocery bill would actually be significantly lighter if you didn’t buy potato chips and ice cream and packaged junk foods. Running, walking, jumping rope, aerobics in front of the TV, whatever you can think of… it’s all about ‘wanting’ to make a healthy change and just doing it! But for many, it’s just easier to choose to resort to excuses like this in order to justify to themselves why they should not just get up and do something about their health and their physical well being. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry White Male 0 Posted May 27, 2007 The same root cause lead to both conditions: laziness. If they weren't all disgusting lazy slobs, they'd get a job and get off the couch. Instead they sit at home and eat ho-hos all day, while you and I support them with our tax dollars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BudBro 180 Posted May 27, 2007 i think poorer people are simply less interested in training of any kind. i have a theory that equilibrioception is the key to most everything in life, and it includes weight loss. the fluid in the inner is responsible for balance, as we all know. however, i think it also has to be trained when we want to accomplish something such as weight loss. notice how fat people lose a whole bunch of weight, then within a year they have put it all back on. i think it's because their brain and the fluid in the inner ear doesn't like the new balance point yet and it works to manipulate cravings and such to put back on the weight and get the balance point back to where it was before. obviously, if they worked that hard to lose the weight originally, they must have gained some good eating habits, so something different is causing the problem. if you've ever tried to change your golf swing, yet fell back into old habits, it's likely because your body and brain liked the old balance point better. if your posture is bad and people are always saying pull your shoulders back and stand taller, yet bad posture returns, it's likely your inner ear fluid hasn't been trained long enough for that to feel comfortable. anyway, it's just a theory and is probably too long a post for most to read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted May 27, 2007 i think poorer people are simply less interested in training of any kind. i have a theory that equilibrioception is the key to most everything in life, and it includes weight loss. the fluid in the inner is responsible for balance, as we all know. however, i think it also has to be trained when we want to accomplish something such as weight loss. notice how fat people lose a whole bunch of weight, then within a year they have put it all back on. i think it's because their brain and the fluid in the inner ear doesn't like the new balance point yet and it works to manipulate cravings and such to put back on the weight and get the balance point back to where it was before. obviously, if they worked that hard to lose the weight originally, they must have gained some good eating habits, so something different is causing the problem. if you've ever tried to change your golf swing, yet fell back into old habits, it's likely because your body and brain liked the old balance point better. if your posture is bad and people are always saying pull your shoulders back and stand taller, yet bad posture returns, it's likely your inner ear fluid hasn't been trained long enough for that to feel comfortable. anyway, it's just a theory and is probably too long a post for most to read. Are you a naomi alias? Interesting theory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TommyGavin 790 Posted May 27, 2007 we keep enabling them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 14 Words Posted May 27, 2007 poor people make bad choices. thats why they are poor in the first place. I would argue this point to some degree. I would suggest that most people are poor because they are the product of inferior genes. Some people are just born with limited ability to succeed and most poor people fall into that catagory. Now I will admit that some poor people are the product of some horrible misfortune and bad luck, but overall, poor people are just the bottom tier of humanity and are exactly where they deserve to be. One must remember, the world needs ditch diggers too. We can't all be born like Donald Trump or Brad Pitt otherwise who would pick up our garbage, drive our buses or serve us our food. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted May 27, 2007 I would argue this point to some degree. I would suggest that most people are poor because they are the product of inferior genes. Some people are just born with limited ability to succeed and most poor people fall into that catagory. Now I will admit that some poor people are the product of some horrible misfortune and bad luck, but overall, poor people are just the bottom tier of humanity and are exactly where they deserve to be. One must remember, the world needs ditch diggers too. We can't all be born like Donald Trump or Brad Pitt otherwise who would pick up our garbage, drive our buses or serve us our food. Did somebody steal this alias handle? This is exactly the attitude which justifies the enablement programs. "It's not their fault, they were born stoopid." I am the son of a secretary and a shoe foreman, not a lot in the gene pool there. Yet I went to a top engineering school and am quite successful. Go figure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted May 27, 2007 I hate fat people that constantly comment on their fatness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 14 Words Posted May 27, 2007 Did somebody steal this alias handle? What part did I say that wasn't true? Take a trip through the ghetto sometime and you will notice that 99.99 percent of them are exactly where they belong. Inferior people living in inferior conditions. I don't see a problem with that. I wish only that their inferior condition was in a completely different continient. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry White Male 0 Posted May 27, 2007 I am the son of a secretary and a shoe foreman, not a lot in the gene pool there. Yet I went to a top engineering school and am quite successful. Go figure. your parents are genetically inferior because they had blue collar jobs!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted May 27, 2007 your parents are genetically inferior because they had blue collar jobs!!! Follow the logic sparky. According to 14 Words, success is directly correlated to your genetic makeup. My parents, while not technically below the poverty line, were fairly close. So by definition, they were on the low end of the gene pool, right? And I came from both of them, so I must be too, right? So since you can't have it both ways, which is it? BTW, it is nice to see you and 14 show your true libby feelings in this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry White Male 0 Posted May 27, 2007 Follow the logic sparky. According to 14 Words, success is directly correlated to your genetic makeup. My parents, while not technically below the poverty line, were fairly close. So by definition, they were on the low end of the gene pool, right? And I came from both of them, so I must be too, right? So since you can't have it both ways, which is it? BTW, it is nice to see you and 14 show your true libby feelings in this thread. I was using sarcasm to make fun of Rickaroo and support your point, sparky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 14 Words Posted May 27, 2007 Follow the logic sparky. According to 14 Words, success is directly correlated to your genetic makeup. My parents, while not technically below the poverty line, were fairly close. So by definition, they were on the low end of the gene pool, right? Nice gigantic jump in logic there, dolt! Without having met your parents, I doubt those hard working Middle Class Americans are the bottom feeding leeches that I consider the lowest tier of humanity. Try again, dumbfukk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted May 27, 2007 I was using sarcasm to make fun of Rickaroo and support your point, sparky. Ah... well, I suppose you could make that argument, although it doesn't come off that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry White Male 0 Posted May 27, 2007 Ah... well, I suppose you could make that argument, although it doesn't come off that way. Sorry, I'll be more over the top next time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted May 27, 2007 Nice gigantic jump in logic there, dolt! Without having met your parents, I doubt those hard working Middle Class Americans are the bottom feeding leeches that I consider the lowest tier of humanity. Try again, dumbfukk. You have a lot of pent up anger from the 6 years it took you to figure out how to use the interwebs. Perhaps your position is somewhat introspective? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,407 Posted May 27, 2007 The reason i know so many poor people is because i work at McDonalds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Davaco Posted May 27, 2007 they eat low quality foods and lots of them, due to their cheapness Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted May 28, 2007 What part did I say that wasn't true? Take a trip through the ghetto sometime and you will notice that 99.99 percent of them are exactly where they belong. but bitter and with a gun..... im gonna pass on the trip through the ghetto and ill take your word for it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallo 136 Posted May 28, 2007 I think the $1 menu a McDonald's is to blame. exactly i'm not going to go on a rant here... but processed food is so cheap compared to food that's actually good for you... like i can get a full size frozen pizza for like 2 bucks... or i could get some broccoli... hmmm frozen pizza easily... yeah... dollar menu at WENDY'S junior bacon cheeseburger only 1 buck... sh1t... gimme like 6 of those... (disclaimer... i'm a poor college kid and only weigh 160 pounds) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAVID RUFFIN 2 Posted May 28, 2007 My guess is that it is tied to self-esteem. The hoity are a little more vain with their appearance. Plus they have the resources for that Pilates or spinning classes as well. Similarly, I have always believed that smokers are the most depressed people as well. Misery loves company. When was the last time you overheard nothing but good news and platitudes at a smoke break? Those groupings are nothing more than a sea of human gripe. To your point about one's physical condition, I believe (and I am sure the statistics are behind it) that the poor tend to smoke more as well - simply from the same conclusions of their feelings about their lives in general. Talk about a a sea of human gripe All you right wingers do is gripe. You hate blacks, mexicans, fattys, gays, smokers, libs etc. The only one that's safe is George Bush. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravens 03 0 Posted May 28, 2007 ... eat ho-hos all day, ... Reported Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpbuckeye 3 Posted May 28, 2007 Talk about a a sea of human gripe All you right wingers do is gripe. You hate blacks, mexicans, fattys, gays, smokers, libs etc. The only one that's safe is George Bush. and you had to use a puzzay alias to say this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,407 Posted May 28, 2007 I think the real reason poor people are fat is that fast food is sometimes cheaper but always faster. If you're working multiple low wage jobs and going home to a big family you have to feed, it's a lot easier to buy a family bucket of KFC than to cook a huge meal. Part of it also is that poor people just make poor choices about what they eat and generally don't take care of their health. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites