TheNewGirl 1,490 Posted June 7, 2007 The most infuriating thing is that Paris Hilton has a cameo in Zoolander. That alone besmirches a very good movie. At least they didn't give her a speaking part. She was in that horrid move House of Wax, too, wasn't she? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted June 7, 2007 Clearly, you misunderstood. I said the AMERICAN PUBLIC has been celebrity obessed since the time of Washington (i.e. a reference to circa the founding of the country that the american public inhabits). There was clearly no type of direct comparison between the two.The comparison was inplicit in your statement. You are comparing the American public of the late-1700's obsession w/the hero of the American Revolution and 1st President of the United States w/the American public of today's obsession w/Paris Hilton. The difference between the two people is the very point that I am trying to make. Washington was worthy of such adoration and interest based upon his great accomplishments...Paris? Notsomuch. Why only use some of your weapons when fighting a war?Hmmm...well, men, in general, are stronger than women and have a greater tendency towards physical violence. So, using your logic, one could justify a man hitting a woman in the battle of the sexes, as it were. I mean, why only use some of your weapons in a war, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted June 7, 2007 She was in that horrid move House of Wax, too, wasn't she? She made the wax statues appear life-like by comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsjjw 0 Posted June 7, 2007 Hmmm...well, men, in general, are stronger than women and have a greater tendency towards physical violence. So, using your logic, one could justify a man hitting a woman in the battle of the sexes, as it were. I mean, why only use some of your weapons in a war, right? Sure, but you men were foolish enough to make it illegal. Your problem not ours. You gave up that weapon just because we have the ability to cut you off from what you really want most. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy1 0 Posted June 7, 2007 Everyone has their own paths to blaze. Just because one does things one way, does not mean that everyone has to follow the same path. She didn't blaze a path, she's was a drunk entitled UNDERAGE socialite in NYC and the paparrazzi reported it. Now she's apparently entitled to not pay her debt to society. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsjjw 0 Posted June 7, 2007 She didn't blaze a path, she's was a drunk entitled UNDERAGE socialite in NYC and the paparrazzi reported it. Now she's apparently entitled to not pay her debt to society. I agree, she should have to spend the same amount of time inside as you or I would. But that does not take away from her other accomplishments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,490 Posted June 7, 2007 I abhor the whole celebrity obsessed nature of our society these days. That doesn't mean that I don't want to see scantily clad/nekkid women. I don't care if it's some twat from Desp Housewives or some unknown girl next door type. However, I feel that I should point out that Eva became a famous actress and then her celebrity from that created the demand to see her in mags like Maxim. Paris, on the other hand, became famous for (poorly) sucking a cawk and then her celebrity from that created the demand for the Paris "brand." At least Eva accomplished something and could be considered (by some) to be an "artist." There was nothing artful or accomplished about Paris having a mouf full of pen|s. That just doesn't make any sense. You hate the celebrity obsessed nature of our society, but you buy into it just as much as every one else because who is going to stop you from looking at half nekkid chicks? That's just further proving itsjjw's point as well...these women KNOW that if they use their sexuality and their bodies to sell the magazines, people will buy them and they will make money. As soon as the Olsen twins hit 18, people couldn't wait to see them nekkid, so they played on it. Sure, they have done anything YET, but there are some pics out there of them rather slutty and all huggy kissy with each other - and they are playing off the "twins" thing...because, hey, you know, guys always wanna do it with twins. Why don't you ever hear about people like Mandy Moore? Because she doesn't take her clothes off or appear nekkid in her movies, or magazines. Is she a cute girl? I think so. I don't buy into it. That's why I don't buy those magazines. EVAH. Eva is a piece of sh!t actress just as much as the rest of them on that ###### show. But if you want to call it art, that's fine by me...then you also have to include all of the other peices of crap out there. Paris has also become an "artist" by designing things like clothing and jewelry. Men think with their d!cks. Women know this. Women pose nekkid in magazines, do sex tapes because it will get their names out there - Paris is just working it like everyone else has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy1 0 Posted June 7, 2007 Good head is an art form. Are you saying that Traci Lords had no right to persue a legitamite acting career? She clearly was not good at acting, but she did have the right to try. Umm, so any chick who sucks a cack deserve should be given a picture deal... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted June 7, 2007 Good head is an art form. Are you saying that Traci Lords had no right to persue a legitamite acting career? She clearly was not good at acting, but she did have the right to try.Key word there being "good." For someone who claims to like and exploit sex as much as you do, I don't understand how you could compare a professional pron w/that night vision monstrosity that Paris made.Gets me what I want in life. Guys don't seem to complain when I appreciate them spending money on me, so what is the problem? Not-so-greta hoars think alike. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy1 0 Posted June 7, 2007 Paris has also become an "artist" by designing things like clothing and jewelry. The hell she designed anything. Cmon, other's designed the clothing, jewelry... Then Paris comes, cameras rolling to show how involved in the process she is in her ventures. Pure media moment. If you want, you can come along on the next video shoot I direct, you can sit there, do nothing, I'll take some video of you chatting with clients, and make it look like you were the brains/producer behind the whole project. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsjjw 0 Posted June 7, 2007 The hell she designed anything. Cmon, other's designed the clothing, jewelry... Then Paris comes, cameras rolling to show how involved in the process she is in her ventures. Pure media moment. If you want, you can come along on the next video shoot I direct, you can sit there, do nothing, I'll take some video of you chatting with clients, and make it look like you were the brains/producer behind the whole project. Everyone makes money off the deal, the designer, Paris, everyone, what is so wrong with that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted June 7, 2007 That just doesn't make any sense. You hate the celebrity obsessed nature of our society, but you buy into it just as much as every one else because who is going to stop you from looking at half nekkid chicks? That's just further proving itsjjw's point as well...these women KNOW that if they use their sexuality and their bodies to sell the magazines, people will buy them and they will make money. As soon as the Olsen twins hit 18, people couldn't wait to see them nekkid, so they played on it. Sure, they have done anything YET, but there are some pics out there of them rather slutty and all huggy kissy with each other - and they are playing off the "twins" thing...because, hey, you know, guys always wanna do it with twins. Why don't you ever hear about people like Mandy Moore? Because she doesn't take her clothes off or appear nekkid in her movies, or magazines. Is she a cute girl? I think so. I don't buy into it. That's why I don't buy those magazines. EVAH. Eva is a piece of sh!t actress just as much as the rest of them on that ###### show. But if you want to call it art, that's fine by me...then you also have to include all of the other peices of crap out there. Paris has also become an "artist" by designing things like clothing and jewelry. Men think with their d!cks. Women know this. Women pose nekkid in magazines, do sex tapes because it will get their names out there - Paris is just working it like everyone else has. I think you missed my point. Celebrity has nothing to do with me wanting to see nekkid women. I don't care if she's a celeb or some nobody I've never heard of before...as long as she looks good. Now, I do confess that when a celeb does do the nekkid thing I definitely want to check it out, but that has nothing to do w/her status as a celeb and everything to do w/the fact that I've likely seen her over and over again in sexually explicit situations, which have built up my desire to finally get the payday and see the goodies she's been hiding. However, I feel the exact same way about the hottie who works on my floor and I see every day w/her t|ts prominently displayed and calling my name. (At least, I think they're calling my name...I swear I can hear them when they walk by. ) Also, I don't watch Desp Housewives, but I'm sure you're correct in your assessment of Eva's acting chops (or lack thereof), which is why I said some may consider her an artist. Again, I think you missed my point, which was that the demand to see her was a result of her acting, which to many is an art. Meanwhile, the demand for Paris was a result of her gagging on her boyfriend's rod, which apprently Itsjjw feels is art, but I'm not so sure that there's a large consensus who agrees w/"her" on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,538 Posted June 7, 2007 Gets me what I want in life. REALLY?? I seem to recall you wanted a "ring" on Valentines day that didn't come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsjjw 0 Posted June 7, 2007 REALLY?? I seem to recall you wanted a "ring" on Valentines day that didn't come. Let's just drop that freaking subject, ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,538 Posted June 7, 2007 Let's just drop that freaking subject, ok. Why? I thought your cooter got you everything you wanted? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy1 0 Posted June 7, 2007 Everyone makes money off the deal, the designer, Paris, everyone, what is so wrong with that? Please link to me saying that business is wrong, I only stated that Paris probably had nothing to do with the actual designing of the jewelery, clothing other then to look at it and go..."That's hot" or "oooooooooo, look how shiny". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsjjw 0 Posted June 7, 2007 I think you missed my point. Celebrity has nothing to do with me wanting to see nekkid women. I don't care if she's a celeb or some nobody I've never heard of before...as long as she looks good. Now, I do confess that when a celeb does do the nekkid thing I definitely want to check it out, but that has nothing to do w/her status as a celeb and everything to do w/the fact that I've likely seen her over and over again in sexually explicit situations, which have built up my desire to finally get the payday and see the goodies she's been hiding. However, I feel the exact same way about the hottie who works on my floor and I see every day w/her t|ts prominently displayed and calling my name. (At least, I think they're calling my name...I swear I can hear them when they walk by. ) Also, I don't watch Desp Housewives, but I'm sure you're correct in your assessment of Eva's acting chops (or lack thereof), which is why I said some may consider her an artist. Again, I think you missed my point, which was that the demand to see her was a result of her acting, which to many is an art. Meanwhile, the demand for Paris was a result of her gagging on her boyfriend's rod, which apprently Itsjjw feels is art, but I'm not so sure that there's a large consensus who agrees w/"her" on that. I don't claim that to be art. You say that its ok if a woman is successful then naked. I say there is nothing wrong with reversing the order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted June 7, 2007 Sure, but you men were foolish enough to make it illegal. Your problem not ours. You gave up that weapon just because we have the ability to cut you off from what you really want most. Sorry, but we cannot accept your answer. More than anything else, men want money. But thanks for playing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,490 Posted June 7, 2007 Please link to me saying that business is wrong, I only stated that Paris probably had nothing to do with the actual designing of the jewelery, clothing other then to look at it and go..."That's hot" or "oooooooooo, look how shiny". Of course, I totally agree with you. I am also willing to bet $$$ that Martha Stewart doesn't do sh!t either, but she's making a TON off of her Omnimedia empire. Just for the record, cack sucking is not "art." JMO. Sorry, but we cannot accept your answer. More than anything else, men want money. But thanks for playing. Money to get more poosay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,408 Posted June 7, 2007 That's too bad. I was hoping a bunch of bulldyke prison guards would ass rape her with a strap on and cut her head off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted June 7, 2007 Money to get more poosay. Let's consider this for a moment. Fine, if it's money to get pussie, then it can be bought at any time, so who really has the power and weapon? Bottom line is the idea that women have some sort of weapon to use on men by the power of the pussie is simply a theory fabricated by women. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted June 7, 2007 GRAB YOUR ANKLES AND KISS YOUR ASS GOODBYE....THE END IS NEAR! I agree w/Al Sharpton!!! Reverend Al Sharpton, President of National Action Network, and one of the country's foremost leaders for civil rights, is blasting the justice system for what appears to be favoritism in the early release of Paris Hilton. "Though I have nothing but empathy for Ms. Hilton whom I have met and appeared with on Saturday Night Live the night I hosted in 2003, this early release gives all of the appearances of economic and racial favoritism that is constantly cited by poor people and people of color. There are any number of cases of people who handle being incarcerated badly and even have health conditions that are not released. I have served several sentences for civil rights and civil disobedience actions and I even fasted which caused health concerns to prison authorities who paid for a doctor to come see me daily rather than release me. This act smacks of the double standards that many of us raise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blitzen 0 Posted June 7, 2007 A better sentence for her would have been to have full-metal braces installed and kept for 60 days and, while wearing them, then be forced to have a photo shoot, dressed as a complete dork, for People Magazine. I think she would have asked for jail time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted June 7, 2007 Sure, but you men were foolish enough to make it illegal. Your problem not ours. You gave up that weapon just because we have the ability to cut you off from what you really want most. The next time a wife beater decides that he had better finish the job and bury her dismembered body parts, rather than face the legal system for smacking her around, please try to remember what you said here and get back to us about how well that's all working out for the women of this country. I feel the need to clarify....I do not in any way condone hitting a woman (although there have definitely been times where I've been tempted) and I think that it is important to enforce the laws meant to protect women from this type of violence. However, I just wanted itsjjw to think about it the next time "she" uses her cooch to get a free meal while gleefully ridiculing men for giving up their power (in her mind) by passing such laws meant to protect hoars like "her". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,490 Posted June 7, 2007 GRAB YOUR ANKLES AND KISS YOUR ASS GOODBYE....THE END IS NEAR! I agree w/Al Sharpton!!! I agree with him as well. There are so many sick inmates out there, and they release her after three days because of a panic attack and crying herself to sleep? And it's true, she's a rich, white woman. Focking A. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy1 0 Posted June 7, 2007 If I have ever have to serve a jail sentence I'll request strict confinement at the Hilton Mansion. I'll even forego up to 3 maids!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted June 7, 2007 I agree with him as well. There are so many sick inmates out there, and they release her after three days because of a panic attack and crying herself to sleep? And it's true, she's a rich, white woman. Focking A. LOL...we hit the trifecta! Al, TNG and DaveBG all in agreement! Such a convergence is a once in a lifetime event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy1 0 Posted June 7, 2007 I agree with him as well. There are so many sick inmates out there, and they release her after three days because of a panic attack and crying herself to sleep? And it's true, she's a rich, white woman. Focking A. On the news the reported condition........... A RASH!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,490 Posted June 7, 2007 On the news the reported condition........... A RASH!!! I am rolling my eyes so much at her that my head hurts. LOL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted June 7, 2007 On the news the reported condition........... A RASH!!! According to some news reports it was b/c she was refusing to eat prison food. celebrity Web site TMZ.com earlier quoted sources saying Hilton was refusing to eat much of the jail food served her. http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/07/p...lton/index.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted June 7, 2007 Fock this house arrest and ankle bracelet bullsh!t. I propose that Paris gets locked up in VH1's Charm School house with the rest of those crazy b!tches for a month. As a bonus, we will see her get shanked on basic cable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy1 0 Posted June 7, 2007 Fock this house arrest and ankle bracelet bullsh!t. I propose that Paris gets locked up in VH1's Charm School house with the rest of those crazy b!tches for a month. As a bonus, we will see her get shanked on basic cable. Fock this VH1's Charm Schoolhouse arrest and ankle bracelet bullsh!t. I propose that Paris gets locked up in phillybear's house for a month. As a bonus, we will see what "goin medieval on your azz" really means. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 356 Posted June 7, 2007 Sure, but you men were foolish enough to make it illegal. Your problem not ours. You gave up that weapon just because we have the ability to cut you off from what you really want most. Oy, his point was really good. I am quite glad men and women support it being illegal. The worst statement in this thread was "it's the one weapon they have" regarding women's sexuality. It has it's place it a really low 'war' I guess, but aim higher. In countries where women are oppressed it can be observed that it's not the natural way of things, it's corruption. Basic human rights given people, which includes men and women allows the foundation for the strongest society. From there work on making something out of yourself as an individual. Or use your 'weapon' and be contributing to a fallen society. Also if all that is discounted, realise you could be screwing yourself over if you really advocated a society like that. Assuming you're female, are good looking enough to be sexually desired and therefore use your 'weapon', note it's not a reliable one to hinge the right to your wellbeing on. But this is kind of ridiculous to even be pointing out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy1 0 Posted June 7, 2007 According to some news reports it was b/c she was refusing to eat prison food. What the fock, that place is like a prison!!!! Treating American Royalty like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted June 7, 2007 http://www.thesuperficial.com has the scoop: Psychiatrist Charles Sophy visited Hilton in jail yesterday and the day before. We're told after Sophy's visit yesterday, word was passed to the Sheriff that Hilton's mental state was fragile and she was at risk. The reason for releasing her had nothing to do with a rash or other physical issues. It was purely in her head. I love their take on it: (2nd story down) So the big medical reason that got Paris Hilton released was that she wasn't happy in prison. Which, I always thought, was sort of the whole point. Was she expecting to ride on unicorns and dance under waterfalls? It's focking prison. I'm pretty sure the inmates who get daily anal rapings are pretty upset too, but nobody's letting them go home. The moral of the story is: if you're ever put in prison just put on a frowny face and they'll let you go. Oh, and make sure you're Paris Hilton. That last part's pretty important. great site, by the way - they hate all of these snotty spoiled b!tches. they also have a nice NSFW shot of Maggy Gilenhall breast feeding her baby in public...nice cans, and not perverted since it's "nature". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites