Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
Ricky's Swami

Shaun Alexander

Recommended Posts

LT

SJax

Gore

LJ

Addai

 

Those 5 are going above SA in many mocks. Is SA a steal at #6?

I think SA won't even be in the top 10 when the season is over with, so the short answer is "NO" :thumbsdown:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

my bad :doh: I forgot to log her off.

Her laptop is in the shop, so she's been using my computer.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Those mocks are based off last season with a little projection to this season. Just wait until preseason games start going and Gore and Addai have a quiet camp and Alexander scores a TD every preseason game. Things will change :doh: I think?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As it sits right now, SA is back to form and IMO a steal at 6. There is no way that the Seahawks suffer the ammount of injury at key positions they had last year is there? Can a team get struck by lightning twice? With Hasselbeck back, D-Drop down in SF (so no toe keeping the leading WR out), another year under the belt of the young rebuilt OL and SA reportedly recovered from the fractured foot, he should have a good year. But who knows what happens in pre-season. We shall see. But if for some odd reason your league drafts now, feel free to take him at 6 and exclaim "championship!"

 

I know in about 30-40% of the mocks I have been doing SA has been sliping to 7.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As it sits right now, SA is back to form and IMO a steal at 6. There is no way that the Seahawks suffer the ammount of injury at key positions they had last year is there? Can a team get struck by lightning twice? With Hasselbeck back, D-Drop down in SF (so no toe keeping the leading WR out), another year under the belt of the young rebuilt OL and SA reportedly recovered from the fractured foot, he should have a good year. But who knows what happens in pre-season. We shall see. But if for some odd reason your league drafts now, feel free to take him at 6 and exclaim "championship!"

 

I know in about 30-40% of the mocks I have been doing SA has been sliping to 7.

 

Isn't Alexander one of those guys who doesn't play much in the preseason?

 

I am not being a wise-ass here - really. I just recall that Alexander & Edge don't typically play a lot during the preseason. I could be wrong. :banana:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As it sits right now, SA is back to form and IMO a steal at 6. There is no way that the Seahawks suffer the ammount of injury at key positions they had last year is there?

 

Alexander is a steal and hope and pray to God every night his IDP stays low. You guys are kidding yourself if you think he is in for another down year. Look what he did against CHI last year on a bum foot at the end of the season! Safe pick and ready to go in 2007.

 

That is the beauty of ADP. People live in the "now". One off year and people slip, one good year and people are high. LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

 

What abou the ADP that had Edgerrin James #7 OVERALL last year in middle of August? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

 

Alexander the Great in 2007.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He is not on the cover of Madden so pencil him in for 1700 and 20 TD's! :sleep:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

my bad :huh: I forgot to log her off.

Her laptop is in the shop, so she's been using my computer.

hAHah, i was like "What the hell is that beezy doing on the mange?"

Then I was like "Isn't she a seahoes fan?"

Then Big Pete was like :thumbsdown:

 

But back to SA. First off, I don't consider anyone a steal if they are only 2 or 3 picks off from their actual position. Yes, LT2 isnt even a steal a #2...although that can be argued.

 

But I do agree that SA should be picked before Addai. This year will be his last hoorah though, he is getting old and we all saw what happened to Marshall Faulk. I see Mo Morris taking a bigger role this year, but SA is set for top 10 numbers.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm of the mind that he will rebound this year and I would not hesitate to take him at that position. He's a proven commodity and his potential is well worth a mid first round pick.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

hAHah, i was like "What the hell is that beezy doing on the mange?"

Then I was like "Isn't she a seahoes fan?"

Then Big Pete was like :huh:

 

But back to SA. First off, I don't consider anyone a steal if they are only 2 or 3 picks off from their actual position. Yes, LT2 isnt even a steal a #2...although that can be argued.

 

But I do agree that SA should be picked before Addai. This year will be his last hoorah though, he is getting old and we all saw what happened to Marshall Faulk. I see Mo Morris taking a bigger role this year, but SA is set for top 10 numbers.

:( :thumbsdown:

And yeah, all joking aside, SA I could see maybe getting top 10 numbers.

His foot scares me, Him being 30 scares me, His line not being what it was 2 years ago when he went off scares me.

Top 5 picks = there is nothing about them or their situation that you are worried about.

6-10 picks = there may be 1 or 2 things that you need to convince yourself will be alright.

This is where I think SA fits in.

If I'm picking 6th, and SA was there for the taking, I'd have to think long and hard about actually taking him.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hrm...Hutchinson gone, and 70% of his TDs used to go to the left side. :thumbsdown:

 

didn't he turn 30 recently? Not traditionally an age where RBs have an uptick in performance. :huh:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hrm...Hutchinson gone, and 70% of his TDs used to go to the left side. :thumbsdown:

 

didn't he turn 30 recently? Not traditionally an age where RBs have an uptick in performance. :huh:

 

So where do you slot him? Just curious.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So where do you slot him? Just curious.

 

God, I'd have a rel real hard time passing him up at 5th or 6th.

 

I wouldn't love the pick because of the risks, but his upside is 1400/20, which puts him ahead of Westbrook, but not by a ton. Lots of question marks with the Seahawks, but SA is money when he's right. If the O-Line looks halfway decent in the preseason I'd rank him 6th.

 

LT2, SJax, Gore, Addai, then it's a crap shoot of whether I'd take him over LJ, which I probably would. :unsure:

 

Again - shoot me if I'm picking 6th, but he'd probably be my guy if he was sitting there. No other 1st round RB seems to have his upside and early reports are positive.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hrm...Hutchinson gone, and 70% of his TDs used to go to the left side. :ninja:

 

didn't he turn 30 recently? Not traditionally an age where RBs have an uptick in performance. :dunno:

 

Aw hell no.

 

Lost Hutchinson, broken foot, you all know a rb falls off the earth when he turns 30 (it's a fact), the Seahawks window is closed, Arizona, San Fran, and St. Louis are all potential playoff teams, blah blah blah.

 

it's all about the youth movement, don't you all know?

 

better than LJ? no

better than Gore? not a chance

better than Addai? No way

 

SA's done. don't even bother with him in the 1st round. i'm not touching him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:unsure:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If Shaun Alexander had gotten injured and not played since, I'd probably avoid him throughout the 1st round. But he started the final 7 games last year, getting between 17 and 40 carries per game. And he racked up some decent stats during that stretch.

 

Obviously his age is a concern as well as his risk of re-injury, but at the end of the day the last games he played he was getting a ton of carries and being productive. That's what I want from a 1st round pick, especially one with Alexander's stat history. I'd cautiously take him at 6.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Aw hell no.

 

Lost Hutchinson, broken foot, you all know a rb falls off the earth when he turns 30 (it's a fact), the Seahawks window is closed, Arizona, San Fran, and St. Louis are all potential playoff teams, blah blah blah.

 

it's all about the youth movement, don't you all know?

 

better than LJ? no

better than Gore? not a chance

better than Addai? No way

 

SA's done. don't even bother with him in the 1st round. i'm not touching him.

:pointstosky:

you're telling me if you see SA at 1.8 or 1.9, you wouldn't pick him?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

you're telling me if you see SA at 1.8 or 1.9, you wouldn't pick him?

 

Did you notice the :pointstosky:?

 

I probably wouldn't take SA any later than 5th if I'm choosing today.

 

Some guys are starting to sell Addai pretty hard around here and I'm listening but I'm not tracking the Gore hype.

 

Right now

 

lt

sj

lj

addai

sa

westbrook

gore

 

i think the hype machine goes overboard around here and i hope guys in my league are listening. it's really popular to pimp the next big thing like addai, gore, bush, maroney. i'll gladly take sa at a value

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Did you notice the :pointstosky:?

 

I probably wouldn't take SA any later than 5th if I'm choosing today.

 

Some guys are starting to sell Addai pretty hard around here and I'm listening but I'm not tracking the Gore hype.

 

Right now

 

lt

sj

lj

addai

sa

westbrook

gore

 

i think the hype machine goes overboard around here and i hope guys in my league are listening. it's really popular to pimp the next big thing like addai, gore, bush, maroney. i'll gladly take sa at a value

 

How is Gore "hype" - he was 3rd in RuYd in the NFL last year and not by much.

 

The team around him has improved on both sides of the ball, which should result in more opportunity and less 8man fronts, yet that's hype?

 

I'd say that's reality. :banana:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

How is Gore "hype" - he was 3rd in RuYd in the NFL last year and not by much.

 

The team around him has improved on both sides of the ball, which should result in more opportunity and less 8man fronts, yet that's hype?

 

I'd say that's reality. :pointstosky:

 

lack of td's, fumblitis, lost norv turner, and it was a miracle that guy made it through the season healthy. He has the knees and shoulders of a rb that's been in the league for 15 years.

 

I'm happy for him getting his contract and feel sorry for him b/c he won't be able to walk when he's 40.

 

in other words....Gore scares the hell out of me. Much more than SA and his broken foot.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

How is Gore "hype" - he was 3rd in RuYd in the NFL last year and not by much.

 

The team around him has improved on both sides of the ball, which should result in more opportunity and less 8man fronts, yet that's hype?

 

I'd say that's reality. :dunno:

 

There have been plenty of one hit wonders that fade pretty fast. (Cleveland Gary was one of my favorites) I am keeping Gore in my league, so i should be biased in favor of him, but he scares me. I think he has alot of room for variance.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

lack of td's, fumblitis, lost norv turner, and it was a miracle that guy made it through the season healthy. He has the knees and shoulders of a rb that's been in the league for 15 years.

 

I'm happy for him getting his contract and feel sorry for him b/c he won't be able to walk when he's 40.

 

in other words....Gore scares the hell out of me. Much more than SA and his broken foot.

Wow, that's alot of negative points that Jarvis pointed out for a 4th overall pick! The question is, who else deserves to be 4th with less risk points? I agree LT2, SJax, and LJ would be the top 3 picks. So that leaves Addai, SA, Gore, and possibly Westy.

 

I admit I had Gore going for 4th overall pick, but after reading this thread I am leaning towards SA or Addai.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As long as Alexander is healthy, I think he will revert to his pre-2005 stats so I would project 1200-1300 yards and 12-14 TD's. A steal at 6..I would agree..

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If Shaun Alexander had gotten injured and not played since, I'd probably avoid him throughout the 1st round. But he started the final 7 games last year, getting between 17 and 40 carries per game. And he racked up some decent stats during that stretch.

 

Obviously his age is a concern as well as his risk of re-injury, but at the end of the day the last games he played he was getting a ton of carries and being productive. That's what I want from a 1st round pick, especially one with Alexander's stat history. I'd cautiously take him at 6.

 

 

I'm with GobbleDog, but I would add let us not forget Curtis Martin, who led the league in rushing in 2005 and amassed nearly 2,000 total yards and 12 total TDs... at the age of 31! (SA will be 30 this year I think).

 

:shocking:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I see last year as just a bad year. He is going to come back with huge numbers. Not LT#s from last year but really LT won't even repeat that.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

these are guys i would take before SA

LT, LJ, SJAX, FGORE, ADAI, WESTBROOK

i think he belongs 1.7

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

these are guys i would take before SA

LT, LJ, SJAX, FGORE, ADAI, WESTBROOK

i think he belongs 1.7

 

So the guy finally gets hurt after 6 seasons and you will now take Westbrook over him? The rest I can kind of understand (though that’s a lot of faith in Addai), but Westbrook?

 

SA is the only player in NFL history to record 15 or more touchdowns five consecutive seasons and is one of only two players (LT) to record 10 or more rushing touchdowns in five consecutive seasons. Second to only Emmith Smith (101) in NFL history with 100 total touchdowns through first 96 games played and ranks tied for 12th all time with 89 rushing touchdowns.

 

And you drop him below Westbrook? Wow. How can you think Westbrook is a safer pick than SA? Westbrook has had 1 healthy season, I think, or has he had 1?

 

Sorry but that’s just crazy talk. I have more faith in SA to put up another 15+ TD season than I do that Gore will repeat last year’s numbers. In FF we follow trends. SA’s trend is that he scores, that’s a trend I like. Maybe I am the crazy one?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

After reading this thread with great interest, I come away feeling very "Comfortable" having to decide if I will keep him for my #6 pick. While training camp and preseason games will of course be the deciding factor, I have no qualms currently to not take him at this spot. My only other true option would be Peyton, who I pass on, but thats for a different thread. My league of 12 will likely have 8 RB keepers.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hrm...Hutchinson gone, and 70% of his TDs used to go to the left side. :overhead:

 

didn't he turn 30 recently? Not traditionally an age where RBs have an uptick in performance. :pointstosky:

Tiki Barber at age 30:

 

2005 New York Giants 357-1860-9

<_<

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Normally I'd side with the guys that say he's over 30, coming off a disappointing season with a diminished O-line. That's not a recipe for top 5 numbers.

 

But then I look at the division they play in and can't imagine him not doing well. If he can play 16 games, with the schedule they have I have a hard time imagining him not being able to make the top 5. Problem is, I don't know who to knock down. My inclination would be Addai. This guy is getting super-hyped this year and I don't know if he can live up to it.

 

Alexander will be a steal at 6 if he stays healthy this year. But the same can be said about guys like Gore and Westrbook who get banged up quite a bit, and LJ coming off of his record number of carries too.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
<_< :pointstosky:

And yeah, all joking aside, SA I could see maybe getting top 10 numbers.

His foot scares me,

Seattle

Shaun Alexander: Never has something the size of a hair gotten so much media attention. The tiny crack in Alexander's foot kept him off the field for six games last season, but he came back with a fury, racking up 201 yards against Green Bay on a Monday night under messy conditions. Is he truly healthy? You bet. The foot is no longer an issue and the time off last year means less overall wear and tear on the body. Alexander has fresh legs (and feet) in 2007 and remains a top-flight back.

 

Stephania Bell is a physical therapist who is an orthopedic clinical specialist and a certified strength and conditioning specialist.

 

:overhead:

 

While there are several excellent reasons NOT to take Alexander, his foot ain't one of them...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
hAHah, i was like "What the hell is that beezy doing on the mange?"

Then I was like "Isn't she a seahoes fan?"

Then Big Pete was like :nono:

 

But back to SA. First off, I don't consider anyone a steal if they are only 2 or 3 picks off from their actual position. Yes, LT2 isnt even a steal a #2...although that can be argued.

 

But I do agree that SA should be picked before Addai. This year will be his last hoorah though, he is getting old and we all saw what happened to Marshall Faulk. I see Mo Morris taking a bigger role this year, but SA is set for top 10 numbers.

 

Were you watching Momo last year? I had the unfortunate circumstance of having to start him while SA was injured because Portis was down and he was the best thing left on waivers... and he put up awful numbers, repeatedly. My impression watching him was that he doesn't have enough talent to even remotely be considered for lightening SA's workload. I'm sorry, but I hope they would put SA out there in a wheel chair rather than give some of his carries to Morris - it would certainly be the far more sensible alternative. I just don't see Maurice Morris ever being a bigger part of the SEA running game - if they need some help in that department, IMO it has to come from someone else, and as such I see him no threat at all to SA's production.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Were you watching Momo last year? I had the unfortunate circumstance of having to start him while SA was injured because Portis was down and he was the best thing left on waivers... and he put up awful numbers, repeatedly. My impression watching him was that he doesn't have enough talent to even remotely be considered for lightening SA's workload. I'm sorry, but I hope they would put SA out there in a wheel chair rather than give some of his carries to Morris - it would certainly be the far more sensible alternative. I just don't see Maurice Morris ever being a bigger part of the SEA running game - if they need some help in that department, IMO it has to come from someone else, and as such I see him no threat at all to SA's production.

I agree. Anyone thinking Maurice Morris is going to cut into SA's PT is delusional. In fact, IF SA were to miss time again this year, the guy that has the most upside to be productive is Leonard Weaver.

 

Check these out:

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

×