BLS 314 Posted August 2, 2007 Yes, yes he is. But he's got some people fooled into thinking he's a Republican. Care to elaborate on what constitutes a "Republican"?? (seriously) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyTom 0 Posted August 3, 2007 So...to sum things up. Ron Paul is for many things that we are for, but he won't actually make any changes because he will push it all onto the States to decide for themselves. Tough job. Heck, I can do that: <ahem> "People - I am for this, and I am for that, so elect me!" Fast forward to first month in office: "What? I never said I would implement any of those things - I am just for those things. Contact your Governor and State Senator if you want change. I am just here for the fancy bathrobes that have the presidential seal on them." <click> Welcome back BLS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted August 3, 2007 So...to sum things up. Ron Paul is for many things that we are for, but he won't actually make any changes because he will push it all onto the States to decide for themselves. Tough job. Heck, I can do that: <ahem> "People - I am for this, and I am for that, so elect me!" Fast forward to first month in office: "What? I never said I would implement any of those things - I am just for those things. Contact your Governor and State Senator if you want change. I am just here for the fancy bathrobes that have the presidential seal on them." <click> Good to be back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted August 3, 2007 So...to sum things up. Ron Paul is for many things that we are for, but he won't actually make any changes because he will push it all onto the States to decide for themselves. Tough job. Heck, I can do that: <ahem> "People - I am for this, and I am for that, so elect me!" Fast forward to first month in office: "What? I never said I would implement any of those things - I am just for those things. Contact your Governor and State Senator if you want change. I am just here for the fancy bathrobes that have the presidential seal on them." <click> Welcome back BLS! Oh, and BTW, did I mention he'd work to eliminate your FEDERAL income taxes? Tell me one person who wouldn't want that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyTom 0 Posted August 3, 2007 Man, you got nothing, do ya? I was trying out a new angle. I need to work on my game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted August 3, 2007 OK.....I'm going to stress test my keyboard here. And I'll try to keep it calm and cool. First off...major PROPS to Edjr for 'seeing the light'. Once you get your mind around the way we normally think about politics and life in general, what Ron Paul says is very much a new way of thinking, and it makes ALOT of sense. 2nd. RON PAUL NEVER BLAMED AMERICANS FOR 9/11. He clearly states a KNOWN fact, that a major factor they attacked us is because they hate us meddling in there affairs. Many of those nations are very, very poor. Beyond imagination here in the US. They have nothing and are oppressed continually by Dictatorship regimes in the region. The US supports those regimes, and they KNOW they cannot find those regimes as long as the US is supporting them with money, armaments and even US troops. Ron Paul was TOTALLY for going after Bin Laden. He voted to invade Afghanistan. He still supports killing Bin Laden, but never did and still does oppose the war in Iraq because it was a sham and a mess, and it was done unconstitutionally. Ask me if you'd like to know more about why. Watch this video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=56...36792&hl=en 3rd. Ron Paul doesn't in any way support prostitution. Or using drugs. What he does support is Freedom to choose. We've had prostitutes since the dawn of time. We're never going to get rid of them. In Nevada, it's all regulated by the STATE government (and I'll be using this term often...so pay attention), and they have much lower rates of AID's and STD's than states where it's illegal. As far as marijuana goes, there isn't one single solitary person on this entire site who couldn't find a bag of schwag within 3 phone calls. Hell, I bet almost everybody here has tried it, or uses it on a regular basis. So, what's the point of making it illegal? People can still obviously get it, right? Do you think in 3 phone calls you could find a bag of Vicotin (which is legal)?? See what I'm saying? So, what's wrong with letting people who want to smoke weed do so? Does it harm you? It should be every persons choice of what they want to do with their lives as long as those choices do not infringe on the Constitutional rights of all people (life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness). IE...as long as your doings don't affect the rights of others, it should be OK from a FEDERAL standpoint. Now, if a state says, "No, we don't want to legalize marijuana", that is also their Constitutional right to make that law. It's also your Constitutional right to move to a state where it's legal if you gotta smoke that bad. Plus, look at it this way...HOW much money do you and I spend every year on the war against drugs? And for what? To bust some guy selling a bag of weed and put him in prison again on our dollar. Do you realize how much money we could save if we put REAL criminals behind bars, so they could actually do their time and not get let out early because there's such a shortage of space in prisons. A vast majority of prisoners are in for a drug related crime....whether it's the act of selling the drug, or killing someone in a drug deal gone bad. Those situations wouldn't happen as often if marijuana were legal and the cost out of our pockets would reduce. Ron Paul does NOT want to make marijuana legal. He wants to make it legal for STATE governments to choose, based on their constituents. Blanket laws tend to be bad, because it limits everybody, whereas STATE government still allows you to freely move across state lines without papers (so far...wait till May of next year...Real ID anyone?!?) 4th. Ron Paul is not a Libertarian, per se. He ran for the Libertarian party in 1988, but he's more of a Constitutionalist than a Libertarian. Also, whoever said Libertarians are pro-choice is dead wrong, which is a major area Paul and Libertarians differ. He believes in Pro Life, but that being said, as President, he recognizes it's NOT his Consititutional right to pass a law saying that all states cannot allow abortions. THINK ABOUT THAT....a guy who's first profession was delivering babies, and is staunchly ProLife, doesn't think it's right to make a law to abolish Roe vs. Wade. Now if that's not PRINCIPLES....I don't know what is. 5th. Ron Paul doesn't want to abolish government. That's simply a poor interpretation. He wants to restrict FEDERAL government from controlling our lives. Those laws should be left up to the STATE governments. The Federal Government is really only required to provide us a few things. Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of happiness. The national Military is included in that because they are needed to suppress an outside threat against those rights. Constitutionally, that's about it. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say the Fed Govt is required to give out welfare checks. To fix bridges in Minnesota (and I live in MN) or to legalize abortion. That should be left to local governments. If he were able to cut this government bloat, YES, factually, he could abolish the IRS. Think about what that would do for the ecomony. 6th. Ron Paul wants to put on solid money. IE Gold-backed money. Right now, we don't have gold to back money any more. The true value of a dollar as of right now is .04 Don't believe me....look it up. Why do you think everybody has to buy everything on credit? 7th. I know I'm not a good spokesman for Ron Paul. I get hot easily, I know. I really think...if every person took the time to REALLY learn about what he stands for, you may see things differently. If you want to read articles and bills he's written during his 20 years in Congress, you can visit here, and learn EXACTLY what his approach is. He can say it all alot better than I. http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/ Oh and for you anti Illegal Immigrationers (such as myself)...he's STAUNCHLY against Amnesty, wants to finish the walls, put our Military on our border until we can stop the flow, and end birth-right citizenship. Illegal Immigration will DESTROY this country if we don't stop it. If US citizens have to pay for the Welfare, HealthCare and Education of non-taxpaying illegals, expect your taxes to go through the roof. 8th. Edjr...you're wrong. He doesn't want to abolish SS. He wants to give people the right to choose and not just have the Socialist government take it from you and say "You're not smart enough to save it, so we'll do it for you." And then 40 years later claim it's all gone. Well Said. not so much well typed, but well said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angry White Male 0 Posted August 3, 2007 Care to elaborate on what constitutes a "Republican"?? (seriously) For one thing, they don't want to appease the terrorists, and they don't blame the US for 9/11. For another, they believe in law and order, and not in legalizing criminal activity like drug use and prostitution. HTH! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites