Mephisto 15 Posted September 6, 2007 I'm fine today btw, tomorrow is the 1 yr anniversary of my dad's death WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!!!@!@$#$@! WHO'LL BE DRINKING TOMORROW?!?!?@?!@?$! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted September 6, 2007 why would I not want to tell her? It's not like I don't want to talk about it or want to bottle all of it up, but when I try it just hurts too much and I literally can't talk about it. Plus it's the same ol stuff that I have no control over. Someday I'll be dead, and then hopefully I'll be back with my brother and dad as well as my wife and kids and mom. There's nothing I can do in the meantime that is going to give me what I want. Nothing is going to bring us all back together. And no "specialist" I can go talk to is going to be able to help me in dealing with all of these issues, no matter what they say or tell me. They don't have a fix or an answer. So, I'll continue to live my life to the best of my ability, in being a father and supporter to my family and the good-natured, fun loving person that I am. If I get drunk a few times a month to forget about all the trials and tribulations who the fock cares? If you don't like it then leave me alone Whoa, buddy. If you don't want input on your problems, don't bring it here then. I was trying to give you options. You obviously don't want any. Good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,025 Posted September 6, 2007 WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!!!@!@$#$@! WHO'LL BE DRINKING TOMORROW?!?!?@?!@?$! probably me. plus fbt is in town and might want to go to the royals game... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted September 6, 2007 probably me. Get some help, you selfish, inconsiderate fock. Put your friggin' family before your self-pity and self-loathing, or have the courtesy to prepare them for unimaginable disappointment. You focking jackass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mighty_thor 115 Posted September 6, 2007 If I get drunk a few times a month to forget about all the trials and tribulations who the fock cares? If you don't like it then leave me alone Whats a few times a month? 4 or 5? Thats like once a week. Imagine growing up and seeing your dad sloshed once a week? Sounds like you're a great family man. Your dad would be proud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,025 Posted September 6, 2007 Whoa, buddy. If you don't want input on your problems, don't bring it here then. I was trying to give you options. You obviously don't want any. Good luck. That wasn't necessarily directed at you, I just get tired of the blowhards that think they are so perfect and people that enjoy drinkin beer are fockups. They're probably pill-poppers or have their own issues they need to worry about and quit thinking thye are better than everybody else. The point was, nobody is going to be able to fix or mend the problems I am dealing with. Nobody can provide me an answer to death that's any better than what I can guess what's going to happen. I know where my priorities are, and believe me my kids and family come first and foremost. I will continue to live my life with that in mind, but on the inside there is an empty hole in my heart that nobody is going to be able to mend or fix, resolution is not going to come until I am dead and I see for myself exactly what the fock is really going on. It just pisses me off, why the fock do we have to deal with death? If this life is so peachy and everything is so wonderful, why can't we be with our loved ones our entire life? It's like I have a tradeoff, my brother dies and I have a daughter. My dad dies and I have a son. Do I really need to lose someone close to me in order to put another life on this Earth? But it's bigger than that, why can't my kids growup knowing their uncle and grandfather? Sure I can try and incorporate the lives of my brother and dad into my kids imagination, but is that really the same? That ###### just eats away at me sometimes, and there is nothing I can do or nothing anybody else is going to tell me that is going to make it any better. It sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,025 Posted September 6, 2007 Whats a few times a month? 4 or 5? Thats like once a week. Imagine growing up and seeing your dad sloshed once a week? Sounds like you're a great family man. Your dad would be proud. thanks for your input Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted September 6, 2007 Poor you. Poor, poor you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK0001 99 Posted September 6, 2007 That wasn't necessarily directed at you, I just get tired of the blowhards that think they are so perfect and people that enjoy drinkin beer are fockups. They're probably pill-poppers or have their own issues they need to worry about and quit thinking thye are better than everybody else. The point was, nobody is going to be able to fix or mend the problems I am dealing with. Nobody can provide me an answer to death that's any better than what I can guess what's going to happen. I know where my priorities are, and believe me my kids and family come first and foremost. I will continue to live my life with that in mind, but on the inside there is an empty hole in my heart that nobody is going to be able to mend or fix, resolution is not going to come until I am dead and I see for myself exactly what the fock is really going on. It just pisses me off, why the fock do we have to deal with death? If this life is so peachy and everything is so wonderful, why can't we be with our loved ones our entire life? It's like I have a tradeoff, my brother dies and I have a daughter. My dad dies and I have a son. Do I really need to lose someone close to me in order to put another life on this Earth? But it's bigger than that, why can't my kids growup knowing their uncle and grandfather? Sure I can try and incorporate the lives of my brother and dad into my kids imagination, but is that really the same? That ###### just eats away at me sometimes, and there is nothing I can do or nothing anybody else is going to tell me that is going to make it any better. It sucks. You think no counselor on earth can penetrate your mighty fortress of a brain? Go get some help and stop being an attention hore on a messageboard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,025 Posted September 6, 2007 You think no counselor on earth can penetrate your mighty fortress of a brain? Go get some help and stop being an attention hore on a messageboard. i dont think anything they tell me can really help the bigger issue. Sure they might make me feel better and stuff, but in the end my brother is still dead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tusekan Raiders 0 Posted September 6, 2007 I just get tired of the blowhards that think they are so perfect and people that enjoy drinkin beer are fockups. They're probably pill-poppers... Actually, it's snorting an 8-ball off the back of black asian hookers for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted September 6, 2007 That wasn't necessarily directed at you, I just get tired of the blowhards Then don't bring it on a message board, ESPECIALLY this one because you know there are jackasses on here that will spend their entire day trying to break you down to make themselves feel better. The point was, nobody is going to be able to fix or mend the problems I am dealing with. You won't know for certain until you exhaust all possibilities. Wouldn't you want to know for sure that you have done everything you can? I would. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,025 Posted September 6, 2007 Actually, it's snorting an 8-ball off the back of black asian hookers for me. everybody has issues. Life is tough. Nobody is perfect. You shouldn't judge others for the choices they decide to make. You can be a bigger person and try and help them, but degrading someone on a messageboard for the choices they make in their life? Personally, I know I have my own crap to deal with, but I'm not going to put others down to try and make myself feel better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tusekan Raiders 0 Posted September 6, 2007 you know there are jackasses on here that will spend their entire day trying to break you down to make themselves feel better. I think most people do it out of boredom than making themselves feel better. It's a time-waster. You reap what you sow when you are a hot freakin mess who shares their life on a focking fantasy football message board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,025 Posted September 6, 2007 Then don't bring it on a message board, ESPECIALLY this one because you know there are jackasses on here that will spend their entire day trying to break you down to make themselves feel better. You won't know for certain until you exhaust all possibilities. Wouldn't you want to know for sure that you have done everything you can? I would. My remedy is my children. As soon as I like at my son's smiling face, all of the issues of the world are lifted off my shoulders. As I see my daughter engage me in dialogue you'd never expect a 2 year old to say and are just blown away, you forget about all the bad things in life. I don't need a professional to help me, especially when I'd rather be at home with my wife and kids or at home watching a football game and really wouldn't be interested in what he or she had to say anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,025 Posted September 6, 2007 I think most people do it out of boredom than making themselves feel better. It's a time-waster. You reap what you sow when you are a hot freakin mess who shares their life on a focking fantasy football message board. yeah and it doesn't bother me, and just posting some of this stuff and getting it off my shoulders make me feel better as well. You guys do for me what a counselor could do, and I get the benefits for free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK0001 99 Posted September 6, 2007 i dont think anything they tell me can really help the bigger issue. Sure they might make me feel better and stuff, but in the end my brother is still dead. And you're dealing with it by getting focked up to the point of blacking out and taking it out on your wife. I'm sure she's cool with that. Get some help. You said you're "putting your family first". That, of course, its bullshiit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted September 6, 2007 My remedy is my children. As soon as I like at my son's smiling face, all of the issues of the world are lifted off my shoulders. As I see my daughter engage me in dialogue you'd never expect a 2 year old to say and are just blown away, you forget about all the bad things in life. I don't need a professional to help me, especially when I'd rather be at home with my wife and kids or at home watching a football game and really wouldn't be interested in what he or she had to say anyways. As I said before, I was trying to give you options. You obviously don't want any. Good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK0001 99 Posted September 6, 2007 Then don't bring it on a message board, ESPECIALLY this one because you know there are jackasses on here that will spend their entire day trying to break you down to make themselves feel better. Sissy. God that felt good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,797 Posted September 6, 2007 yeah and it doesn't bother me, and just posting some of this stuff and getting it off my shoulders make me feel better as well. You guys do for me what a counselor could do, and I get the benefits for free. A therapist would call you a stupid ignorant drunkard who is too chicken shiot to address his issues and instead gets drunk quarterly... ERRR, a couple of times a month... ERRRR when he wakes up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted September 6, 2007 i dont think anything they tell me can really help the bigger issue. Sure they might make me feel better and stuff, but in the end my brother is still dead. you know man... I know you hate me... and you'll probably just seeth venom at me here... but "the bigger issue" isn't about you or your brother anymore... it's about your family, your kids, and having your shiat together enough to make sure that you give them every possible advantage in life. print this thread out and take it ot someone and talk to them. though you may feel like it, you are not the first one to deal with tragic loss nor will you be the last. You are underestimating how much a competent counselor can help you with something like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted September 6, 2007 You are underestimating how much a competent counselor can help you with something like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,025 Posted September 6, 2007 you know man... I know you hate me... and you'll probably just seeth venom at me here... but "the bigger issue" isn't about you or your brother anymore... it's about your family, your kids, and having your shiat together enough to make sure that you give them every possible advantage in life. print this thread out and take it ot someone and talk to them. though you may feel like it, you are not the first one to deal with tragic loss nor will you be the last. You are underestimating how much a competent counselor can help you with something like this. it's nice to know i'm being talked about at the sanctuary and all the buttnuggets come running I don't necessarily hate you, I hated how you would compare my drinking to my brother's death when it wasn't warranted. But you didn't know, you could only go off what I was posting. But your point is taken, and if you talked to anyone that knows me they would tell you I do put my family first. I make sure they're in bed or someone else is watching them before I endulge, seriously My kids are my life, my life is meaningless and the only thing that matters to me since i have had kids are those kids. I don't think my drinking interferes with that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,491 Posted September 6, 2007 there are so many disturbing things in this thread, I don't know where to start. ITA with Toro. Many excellent suggestions in this thread, you don't want to hear it. Hopefully, your wife won't come home to seeing you dead on the front porch, from drinking yourself to death. Making choices is one thing, Chad. They are your choices, of course, and I don't think that anyone here would be at liberty to give you crap for drinking beer from time to time. Thing is, it's NOT time to time. It's NOT once a MONTH. And people here certainly do not post about how they got smashed, fought with their wife, and can't remember it. Seeing a PROFESSIONAL (hint, NOT The Geek Club) is probably the best suggestion that anyone would have for you at this point. You are a depressive. Trust me. And you say that you're fine today, however, tomorrow when you are brooding again over your father's death, what then? It's one thing to mourn, it's another to try and "get through the rough times" using a drug (yes, alcohol is a drug). Alcohol is a depressant. Yeah, let's have someone who is all ready depressed get even MORE depressed! WWOOOOOO!@#@!HOOOOOOOOO!@#@! It makes me sad to see someone that clearly needs help and they will just shrug it off. Especially when I have been through things like this myself. It takes a strong man to admit that he has a problem. I really do hope that you reach that point before it's too late. GL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted September 6, 2007 ...especially when I'd rather be at home with my wife and kids or at home watching a football game and really wouldn't be interested in what he or she had to say anyways. Don't forget drinking. You left out drinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,491 Posted September 6, 2007 My kids are my life, my life is meaningless and the only thing that matters to me since i have had kids are those kids. I don't think my drinking interferes with that Your children are in the MOST impressionable times of their lives. They are learning how a father behaves, how a husband behaves. THEY SEE YOU DRINK. If your wife talks about your drinking to other people and they are in earshot, THEY HEAR ABOUT IT. Your drinking interferes with way more than what you're willing to be open to and see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted September 6, 2007 My kids are my life, my life is meaningless and the only thing that matters to me since i have had kids are those kids. I don't think my drinking interferes with that Until your wife decides those children (and her) would be better off without you, especially if SHE thinks your drinking DOES interfere. Your kids should be the most important thing(s) in your life, but not the only thing. You still have a wife, friends, career, other family, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,025 Posted September 6, 2007 Your children are in the MOST impressionable times of their lives. They are learning how a father behaves, how a husband behaves. THEY SEE YOU DRINK. If your wife talks about your drinking to other people and they are in earshot, THEY HEAR ABOUT IT. Your drinking interferes with way more than what you're willing to be open to and see. but the deal is, it's really not that persistent. it's friday night playing cards at the FIL's, after the kids are put to bed. My wife doesn't talk about my drinking, because it's not an issue in the house. Seriously. I don't just grab a beer or two every night, it's like once a week and the kids aren't around. But I guess I am going to hell if you all have anything to say about it at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,025 Posted September 6, 2007 You still have a wife, friends, career, other family, etc. and drinking doesnt interfere with those either. In have had 2 jobs my entire life, one for 8 years and this one for 5 now. If drinking interfered with work, that wouldnt be the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted September 6, 2007 But your point is taken, My kids are my life, my life is meaningless and the only thing that matters to me since i have had kids are those kids. you know that's crazy talk, right? that's a very unhealthy state of mind. Fix it now... do whatever you have to, swallow your pride, go see someone, whatever... or you will, without even intending to... fock up your kids. and do it before the Chiefs disasterous season even begins... you'll be better prepared for all the negativity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TK0001 99 Posted September 6, 2007 I make sure they're in bed or someone else is watching them before I endulge, seriously Do you want "cmh" or "Chad" engraved on your father of the year award? You drink until you black out. Are you just assuming you're a splendid guy in that state? What if you're in that state and your daughter comes out for a drink of water? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,025 Posted September 6, 2007 Do you want "cmh" or "Chad" engraved on your father of the year award? You drink until you black out. Are you just assuming you're a splendid guy in that state? What if you're in that state and your daughter comes out for a drink of water? well usually they are at home and I am at the FIL's, so unless she walks across town it's cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted September 6, 2007 and drinking doesnt interfere with those either. In have had 2 jobs my entire life, one for 8 years and this one for 5 now. If drinking interfered with work, that wouldnt be the case. Go ask your wife if your drinking interferes with your marriage and you being a father. And then when she tells you it does, make sure to tell her it doesn't and see where that leads you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,025 Posted September 6, 2007 Go ask your wife if your drinking interferes with your marriage and you being a father. And then when she tells you it does, make sure to tell her it doesn't and see where that leads you. she would let me know if it did Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,491 Posted September 6, 2007 Again, there are just too many disturbing things in this thread. It makes me very sad. GL, Chad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted September 6, 2007 but the deal is, it's really not that persistent. it's friday night playing cards at the FIL's, after the kids are put to bed. My wife doesn't talk about my drinking, because it's not an issue in the house. You got drunk until you blacked out, blew up at your wife in a fit of self-pity and negativity to the point that she was going to dump you somewhere else rather than take you home to your kids, but your drinking is not an issue at home? Okay. Keep telling yourself that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,797 Posted September 6, 2007 Is there nobody in your real life with enough guts to smack you in the head and tell you what every single person in this thread is trying to tell you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S.D. Jones 0 Posted September 6, 2007 Even with all this being said, I'd still probably rather have cmh than a father than that retard BMoney....lol... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,025 Posted September 6, 2007 You got drunk until you blacked out, blew up at your wife in a fit of self-pity and negativity to the point that she was going to dump you somewhere else rather than take you home to your kids, but your drinking is not an issue at home? Okay. Keep telling yourself that. i told her to take me to a bar and drop me off but she refused Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted September 6, 2007 I predict that this thread will end very, very badly. I now predict that this thread will end in a murder-suicide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites