phillybear 366 Posted October 11, 2007 Holy fock. That is the stupidest thing I've ever seen posted on the internets. I should probably clarify somewhat. You have to take it on a case by case basis. And I have yet to meet a minority that had a tougher upbringing than me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,907 Posted October 11, 2007 I don't understand the one drop thingy. I call Lenny Kravitz et al black because they are BLACK...Their skin color is black. We could add other definitions if that would work better..brown, chocolate, caramel, whatever. But today we have black. I suppose we could also add pink, off-white, flesh etc..but today we have white. I don't call lenny Kravitz black because of some stupid "one drop" theory or where he originated from(I don't even know where he is from) I call him black cause his skin color is black. Is that now unacceptable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted October 11, 2007 Lifes easier when you're white in America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted October 11, 2007 I don't understand the one drop thingy.I call Lenny Kravitz et al black because they are BLACK...Their skin color is black. We could add other definitions if that would work better..brown, chocolate, caramel, whatever. But today we have black. I suppose we could also add pink, off-white, flesh etc..but today we have white. I don't call lenny Kravitz black because of some stupid "one drop" theory or where he originated from(I don't even know where he is from) I call him black cause his skin color is black. Is that now unacceptable? Peens is just using examples that work in her favor. Mariah Carey is considered white, but she is half black as well. I consider Tiger more asian than black. Peenie is once again taking her own viewpoints and expressing them as if the whole world feels the same racist way she does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsjjw 0 Posted October 11, 2007 afraid that like my white girlfriends they'd eventually say something really hurtful or insensitive.afraid that they were only dating me for an experience, not really because they liked me, just to see what it was like to be with a black girl knowing they never would want anything serious. i didn't want to fall for a white guy who knew deep down all we'd ever have would be dates or sex. there was this guy who was heading toward medical school who i was seeing. he was so nice, smart and romantic. we hung out a lot, but there was no defined relationship. then one day he invited me over his house. i was there for only a few minutes when he kind of pounced on me and i freaked out. i asked to leave right away. i told my dad that he just wanted to have sex with me! my dad said, well honey that's what the black ones want too. I almost cried when i read this. Guys are such ######. It really brings out the hate towards them in a person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted October 11, 2007 I don't understand the one drop thingy.I call Lenny Kravitz et al black because they are BLACK...Their skin color is black. I don't call lenny Kravitz black because of some stupid "one drop" theory or where he originated from(I don't even know where he is from) I call him black cause his skin color is black. you have just defined the one drop rule. because lenny kravitz looks black he is defined as black. because mariah carey looks white she can be defined white. when in fact both are equally black and white. they are both biracial. being white in this country is not about how many fractions of european ancestry you have. in fact it is the inability to perceive non-european ancestry that makes you white. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil number 0 Posted October 11, 2007 oh, thank you so much for the update.i can't see picture one. why don't you want to reflect on where your relationship is going? she's very attractive, you both have chemistry and there doesn't seem to be any conflict among either of your family members about you dating. so....it looks like things can only get better, right? is it that you don't want a committed relationship? or is it that you don't want a committed relationship with her? it doesn't matter, i'm wishing you the best and hope you stay together. i've actually mentioned your relationship to my girlfriends, like it's a soap opera. i give them updates on how your doing. hope you don't mind. Its not that i don't want a comitted relationship with her its just that this seems to have gone very fast. i am madly in love with her but I just don't want to talk about the M word for a little while. She just signed a lease in October (I own a condo) so we are'nt moving in together anytime soon either. But for all practical purposes we are living together as we live a couple of blocks from each other and rarely spend a night apart. You can't see pic #1? Try this link: http://public.fotki.com/ConanSteve/s---pro...meandseas2.html I don't mind you talking about my soap opera. But if you turn it into a movie, i want some royalties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mighty_thor 115 Posted October 11, 2007 http://public.fotki.com/ConanSteve/s---pro...meandseas2.html That woman is pretty hot. Especially that head shot of her in your fotki album. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted October 11, 2007 African american She was born in Africa???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted October 11, 2007 being white in this country is not about how many fractions of european ancestry you have. in fact it is the inability to perceive non-european ancestry that makes you white. That's focking hilarious. So you can look at someone from the dominican republic and tell them apart from someone from jamaica without asking them where they are from or where their family is from? Every race puts labels to make it easy. White people have just as a diverse ancestry as any other grouping (black, asian, latino, etc) so to generalize white people as unable to perceive non-european ancestry simply proves once again the double standard that minorities place on importance of race/ancestry/"culture". What makes me (perceived as being) white is my skin color and nothing else. But if I have black parents (adoption), grow up in a black neighborhood, attend a black college and believe that OJ is innocent, does that make me somehow "less white"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted October 11, 2007 my dad said, well honey that's what the black ones want too. Your dad sounds like a smart man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted October 11, 2007 I'm closer to middle eastern than mexican. I'm punjabi. Its a state in india, but i don't claim indian because fock them. But yea, my religion is the one that gets confused with islam because we wear turbans. The quickie mart guys, thats us. And our business focked all of us in the ass with no vaseline. Its still going strong. We bought a house in 98 for 150, then later bought a new house for 300. It took about 2 years for the house to be built, by which time the house we were living in was sold for 330. We're set right? I mean, just pay off all of our debt (cars, credit cards, etc.) and be left with at most a 150k mortgage on a house worth 400 by the time we moved into it. Nooo, my parents want to get an interest only loan, take that money and invest it. Business goes bad so what do they do? Since our house was worth 450, they decided to refinance for that amount. Took a few more minor loans to try to save the business. No we owe about 500k with a house that has dropped to about 450. So you really do live in your mommies basement???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted October 11, 2007 believe that OJ is innocent, does that make me somehow "less white"? That makes you in blind to the truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted October 11, 2007 back at you baby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted October 11, 2007 Lifes easier when you're white in America. So i'm not surprised someone who is half white would claim white more often. What's that supposed to be, some kind of sick joke????? Ever hear of that thing we have going on here in America called affirmative action??? It means that people of color get and have the advantage. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted October 11, 2007 So you can look at someone from the dominican republic and tell them apart from someone from jamaica without asking them where they are from or where their family is from? But if I have black parents (adoption), grow up in a black neighborhood, attend a black college and believe that OJ is innocent, does that make me somehow "less white"? dominican republic and jamaica are places, that's nationality not race. there are black jamaicans and black dominicans. maybe you missed it, the question was why do i consider my child's father black instead of white as he sees himself. the answer is that he is half black and does not look white like say mariah carey does. also he grew up in an all black neighborhood and behaves like any other black person that was raised in an all black environment. yes, he lived in a home with two white parents, but he is black in features and behavior. halle berry lived with her white mom. could halle ever claim to be white? no, because she looks black. doesn't matter that she lived in an all white environment she looks black. not so with jennifer beals (flashdance) she was raised with her white mom in a very white neighborhood and no one knew she was 1/2 black until she claimed so in order to get preference into yale. being white is not a matter of fact, it is a roll of the dice. if you look it, then you can be it. if you don't look it, you can never be it despite your ancestry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil number 0 Posted October 11, 2007 She was born in Africa???? She was born in America but has african heritage. just like someone who is Italian-American was probably born in the US. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted October 11, 2007 She was born in America but has african heritage. just like someone who is Italian-American was probably born in the US. To be African-American, you must be born in Africa and be an American citizen. See Charlize Theron. You think she is black???? She is African-American. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted October 11, 2007 dominican republic and jamaica are places, that's nationality not race. there are black jamaicans and black dominicans. Then what the fock does "in fact it is the inability to perceive non-european ancestry that makes you white" mean? Ancestry is usually very closely tied to nationality and race. Go up to a "brown" dominican and call him Puerto Rican and see how fast you get a beatdown. You are twisting the meaning of things when it's obvious you have no idea what you are talking about. also he grew up in an all black neighborhood and behaves like any other black person that was raised in an all black environment. yes, he lived in a home with two white parents, but he is black in features and behavior. OK, Peenie. Seriously. I would like you to make a list of 10 behaviors that you consider "black": 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted October 11, 2007 Go up to a "brown" dominican and call him Puerto Rican and see how fast you get a beatdown. you are retarded. once again, nationality and race are two seperate issues. i'm not talking to you because i think you are on my list. fock off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted October 11, 2007 you are retarded. once again, nationality and race are two seperate issues. i'm not talking to you because i think you are on my list. fock off. Don't be mad at me because you are dumb and can't understand that ancestry is very closely tied to nationality. Once again..... also he grew up in an all black neighborhood and behaves like any other black person that was raised in an all black environment.yes, he lived in a home with two white parents, but he is black in features and behavior. OK, Peenie. Seriously. I would like you to make a list of 10 behaviors that you consider "black": 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsjjw 0 Posted October 11, 2007 dominican republic and jamaica are places, that's nationality not race. there are black jamaicans and black dominicans. maybe you missed it, the question was why do i consider my child's father black instead of white as he sees himself. the answer is that he is half black and does not look white like say mariah carey does. also he grew up in an all black neighborhood and behaves like any other black person that was raised in an all black environment. yes, he lived in a home with two white parents, but he is black in features and behavior. halle berry lived with her white mom. could halle ever claim to be white? no, because she looks black. doesn't matter that she lived in an all white environment she looks black. not so with jennifer beals (flashdance) she was raised with her white mom in a very white neighborhood and no one knew she was 1/2 black until she claimed so in order to get preference into yale. being white is not a matter of fact, it is a roll of the dice. if you look it, then you can be it. if you don't look it, you can never be it despite your ancestry. I am just curious about one thing... Jamaica is like 97% black. Are they called Jamaicans or African-Jamaicans? If they are just Jamaicans, why do we need the difference in Amercia? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted October 11, 2007 I am just curious about one thing... Jamaica is like 97% black. Are they called Jamaicans or African-Jamaicans? If they are just Jamaicans, why do we need the difference in Amercia? ask jesse jackson or whoever decided to change it. i call myself black but would prefer to let go of all racial categories as they have no basis in fact. being labeled american suits me fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsjjw 0 Posted October 11, 2007 ask jesse jackson or whoever decided to change it.i call myself black but would prefer to let go of all racial categories as they have no basis in fact. being labeled american suits me fine. lol. Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted October 11, 2007 i call myself black but would prefer to let go of all racial categories as they have no basis in fact. O RLY??? also he ... behaves like any other black person that was raised in an all black environment.yes, he lived in a home with two white parents, but he is black in features and behavior. So you prefer to let go of racial categories yet repeat assertions that behavior is considered "black"???? Still waiting for you to describe "black" behavior? Hell, I don't need ten examples....just give me 3!!!! But you won't because you know you are wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil number 0 Posted October 11, 2007 To be African-American, you must be born in Africa and be an American citizen. See Charlize Theron. You think she is black???? She is African-American. Well like i said before. the same holds true for italian americans, irish americans, etc., So, an Italian American needs to be born in italy? I saw a lot of italian american shirts on columbus day but none of those people had a trace of an italian accent. Some blacks started calling themselves African Americans. Its fine with me. You seem to have a problem with it . Probably because you don't like blacks and will use any reason to bash on them. I have more important things to give a shhit about. Just for the record, my gf has never refered to herself as an african american or black. I don't know what she would prefer but my guess is she would probably wish there was no such thing as a racial grouping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted October 11, 2007 Well like i said before. the same holds true for italian americans, irish americans, etc., So, an Italian American needs to be born in italy? I saw a lot of italian american shirts on columbus day but none of those people had a trace of an italian accent. Some blacks started calling themselves African Americans. Its fine with me. You seem to have a problem with it . Probably because you don't like blacks and will use any reason to bash on them. I have more important things to give a shhit about. Just for the record, my gf has never refered to herself as an african american or black. I don't know what she would prefer but my guess is she would probably wish there was no such thing as a racial grouping. The only problem I have with it is that to be African American or Italian American is the FACT that to have such a ridiculous title, you MUST be born in said country to claim the title. My example of this was Charlize Theron. Born in Africa. There are white people who are born in Africa. Thus, black Americans claiming to be African American is stupid if you are just a black Americans born in this greta country. You comment about me not liking blacks is silly. I have said how cute your girlfriend is more than once in this thread, because she is. I have expressed my love for peenie many times as well and she is black. Why would I do those things if I hated blacks???? Answer: I wouldn't. I am no racist my friend and wish you well with your endeavors with this black girl. I would actually love to date a black girl as I'm now divorced. Just because someone has an opinion on something to do with a minority, doesn't make them racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil number 0 Posted October 11, 2007 The only problem I have with it is that to be African American or Italian American is the FACT that to have such a ridiculous title, you MUST be born in said country to claim the title. My example of this was Charlize Theron. Born in Africa. There are white people who are born in Africa. Thus, black Americans claiming to be African American is stupid if you are just a black Americans born in this greta country. You comment about me not liking blacks is silly. I have said how cute your girlfriend is more than once in this thread, because she is. I have expressed my love for peenie many times as well and she is black. Why would I do those things if I hated blacks???? Answer: I wouldn't. I am no racist my friend and wish you well with your endeavors with this black girl. I would actually love to date a black girl as I'm now divorced. Just because someone has an opinion on something to do with a minority, doesn't make them racist. Sorry to label you a racist and sorry to hear about your divorce. How long you been divorced? Any kids? Keep trying with Peenie. She might have a bit of a temper but the passionate ones always do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted October 11, 2007 Sorry to label you a racist and sorry to hear about your divorce. How long you been divorced? Any kids? Keep trying with Peenie. She might have a bit of a temper but the passionate ones always do. Thanks for the condolences. She left me(I did not want the divorce at all) just over a year ago and the divorce has been final for about 6 months. I have a son with her who is 8. I spent his entire life home with him as the at home parent. Now, I only see him for about a day and a half a week, Friday night and Saturday night(Which I'm sure works out perfect for her). She gets him at 10 a.m on Sundays. I'm miserable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Me_2006 14 Posted October 11, 2007 Thanks for the condolences. She left me(I did not want the divorce at all) just over a year ago and the divorce has been final for about 6 months. I have a son with her who is 8. I spent his entire life home with him as the at home parent. Now, I only see him for about a day and a half a week, Friday night and Saturday night(Which I'm sure works out perfect for her). She gets him at 10 a.m on Sundays. I'm miserable. Damn. That sucks. T&Ps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted October 11, 2007 Damn. That sucks. T&Ps. Thanks for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted October 11, 2007 I dunno, I could never really get off on black chicks. I'm sure it's all visual, but: You know how when you're at the grocery store and the really fresh ground beef is bright pink, but the stuff that's gone bad is brownish? Baby, you done let this thing sit out too long. And your nipples too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil number 0 Posted October 11, 2007 Thanks for the condolences. She left me(I did not want the divorce at all) just over a year ago and the divorce has been final for about 6 months. I have a son with her who is 8. I spent his entire life home with him as the at home parent. Now, I only see him for about a day and a half a week, Friday night and Saturday night(Which I'm sure works out perfect for her). She gets him at 10 a.m on Sundays. I'm miserable. So, you stayed at home while the wife worked? Now you are back working? damn that sux. You gotta find a new woman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted October 11, 2007 The only problem I have with it is that to be African American or Italian American is the FACT that to have such a ridiculous title, you MUST be born in said country to claim the title. My example of this was Charlize Theron. Born in Africa. There are white people who are born in Africa. Thus, black Americans claiming to be African American is stupid if you are just a black Americans born in this greta country. Just because someone has an opinion on something to do with a minority, doesn't make them racist. Well said. Funny, even the Blacks are getting annoyed with the whole African American thing. I'm from Brazil fothermocker! I ain't no freaking African! So stupid. They intent a new word every decade. Reminds me of that episode in Quantum Leap where the travels back to the 50's. Sam: "You're Black!" Black Lady: (offended) You're Rude! Sam: "I'm sorry Ma'am..". BL: (righteous) I am a NEGRO! - That episode put everthing in context. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted October 11, 2007 So, you stayed at home while the wife worked? Now you are back working? damn that sux. You gotta find a new woman. No. I can't work. BIGTIME sucky sucky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil number 0 Posted October 11, 2007 No. I can't work. BIGTIME sucky sucky. why can't you work? medical condition? How are you surviving? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsbigmoni 1 Posted October 12, 2007 Yea i missed a lot of the action and it seems like a lot of people took issue with my statement. You guys won't believe me no matter what i say. Its part of the disconnect. We look at white people as oblivious to their racism in a lot of ways, i'm not even sure if racism is the right word because of that. White people are convinced everyone has an equal opportunity and there isn't any discrimination. And to the guy who said, i've never met a person with a worse upbringing than mine, try stepping out of your gated community. Alsonotreally. I'm not saying white people can't grow up in focked situations with abusive parents, no father, poor, bullied on by people of other races, and lots of other sh1t that can fock up a child. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted October 12, 2007 why can't you work? medical condition? How are you surviving? Medical condition. I have survived on help from the trustee, poor relief. The trustee pays my utility bills. I have no cable TV or any cool stuff for my home phone. As far as my house goes, I bought my house when I was 22, 14 years ago. I got a USDA loan for my house. It is like a farmers home loan, not for farmers though. Anyway, they base my payment on my income. Since I have no income, I applied and received a moratorium on my house, which means I don't have to pay my house payment right now. I also receive food stamps for food. I was found disabled by the state and get Medicaid for health insurance. I am waiting on disability money at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagles Green 34 Posted October 12, 2007 Medical condition. I have survived on help from the trustee, poor relief. The trustee pays my utility bills. I have no cable TV or any cool stuff for my home phone. As far as my house goes, I bought my house when I was 22, 14 years ago. I got a USDA loan for my house. It is like a farmers home loan, not for farmers though. Anyway, they base my payment on my income. Since I have no income, I applied and received a moratorium on my house, which means I don't have to pay my house payment right now. I also receive food stamps for food. I was found disabled by the state and get Medicaid for health insurance. I am waiting on disability money at the moment. What is your medical condition? Lameassposteritis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites