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Obama's positions 1-260

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Here is my plagarizing contribution for the day. From an Obama supporter. I cannot vouch for the complete accuracy of each row, but it seemed inline from an initial read.

Instead of worrying about whether every word he says came spontanously from only his mind or how many times you can edit a clip from his wife to change the context. Lets have a substantive discussion, critical if you will, over what his ACTUAL positions are. See, the reason I like Obama is that I truly believe that he can transcend the petty partisan portion of politics. Now I'm not stupid, lets say he give us the best hope of the 3.

 

260 of the bad boys...

 

1. Opposed the Iraq war from the start.

 

2. Voted to end the war in Iraq.

 

3. Supports capturing and killing Osama Bin Laden.

 

4, Favors a $1000 tax cut for every working American family.

 

5. Will implement tax form simplification to reduce filing time.

 

6. Provide tax credit for all middle class homeowners.

 

7. Provide a tax cut for all families making less than $75,000 a year.

 

8. Amend NAFTA to protect American workers.

 

9. Amend NAFTA to strengthen environmental protections.

 

10. Providing Flex Ed training accounts for workers.

 

11. Extending Trade Adjustment assistance to service workers.

 

12. Supported Patriot Employer Act of 2007 that gives tax credits to large companies that keep workers here in America.

 

13. Double funds for basic federal research.

 

14. Implement a long term research and development tax credit.

 

15. Invest in green technologies.

 

16. Reduce carbon emission gases.

 

17. Tackle the challenges of global warming.

 

18. Create an energy focused youth jobs program.

 

19. Create Federal Renewable Portfolio Standard.

 

20. Extend the Production Tax Credit.

 

21. Expand Broadband into every community.

 

22. Keep the Internet tax free.

 

23. Expand high speed internet access in rural areas.

 

24. Fight for passage of Employee Free Choice Act.

 

25. Ensure freedom to unionize.

 

26. Would overturn "Kentucky River" classifications of Bush's NLRB

 

27. Protect rights of striking workers.

 

28. Increase the mininum wage to index it to inflation.

 

29. Crack down on predatory lenders.

 

30. Provide a universal mortgage tax credit for homeowners who don't itemize.

 

31. Sign the Stop Fraud Act to prevent lending fraud.

 

32. Mandate accurate loan disclosure.

 

33. Create a fund to protect people from foreclosures.

 

34. Close the bankruptcy loophole for mortgage companies.

 

35. Establish a credit card rating to improve disclosure.

 

36. Ban utilateral credit card charges.

 

37. Apply interest rate only to future debt.

 

38. Prohibit credit card interest on fees.

 

39. Prohibit Universal defaults.

 

40. Require prompt and fair crediting of cardholder payments.

 

41. Protect working people from unfair bankruptcy laws.

 

42. Ban executive bonuses for bankruptcy companies.

 

43. REquire disclosure of pension investments.

 

44. Cap outlandandish interest rates on payday loans.

 

45. Implement legislation to drive unscrupulous lenders out of business

 

46. Create a bankruptcy exemption for people that went broke because of medical bills.

 

47. Double funding for after school programs.

 

48. Extend Family and Medical Leave Act.

 

49. Encourage states to adopt Paid leave.

 

50. Expand the Child Care Tax Credit

 

51. Supports ratification of UN Convention Rights of Persons With Disabilities.

 

52. Supports independent, community based living for people with disabilities.

 

53. Expand educational opportunites for people with disabilities.

 

54. Expand job opportunities for people with disabilities.

 

55. Strengthen civil rights enforcement.

 

56. Sign into law the Fair Pay Act.

 

57. Sign law reversing recent SCOTUS rulings that permitted discrimination against women.

 

58. Sign law reversing recent SCOTUS rulings that permitted discrimination against racial minorities.

 

59. Strengthen federal hate crimes legislation.

 

60. Eliminate the sentence disparities regarding crack cocaines.

 

61. Establish drug courts for first time, non violent offenders.

 

62. Create a prison to work incentive for those transitioning back into society.

 

63. Passed a law to prohibit the practice of racial profiling.

 

64. Supported reauthorizing the Voting Rights Act.

 

65. Opposes all discriminatory barriers to voting.

 

66. Helped reform death penalty system in Illinois to protect innocent people on death row.

 

67. Voted to ban cluster bombs.

 

68. Provide high quality affordable child care to families.

 

69. Will quadrulple Early Head Start funding.

 

70. Will increase Head Start funding.

 

71. Creates early learning challenge grants.

 

72. Abolish overly rigid teach to the test curriculum in schools.

 

73. Improve accountability in public schools.

 

74. Invest in intervention strategies to reduce dropout rates in schools.

 

75. Increase funding for afterschool programs.

 

76. Supports Step Up program to increase summer learning opportunities.

 

77. Support English language learner programs.

 

78. Expand college outreach programs.

 

79. Create teacher service scholarships.

 

80. Requires all public schools to be accredited.

 

81. Create teacher residency programs.

 

82. Create the American Opportunity Tax Credit for higher education.

 

83. Streamline financial aid application.

 

84. Introduced legislation to increase Pell Grant to $5,100.

 

85. Reduce carbon emissions by 80% by 2050.

 

86. Confront deforestation.

 

87. Promote carbon sequestration.

 

88. Accelerate commercialization of plug in hybrids.

 

89. Promote development of commercial scale renewable energy.

 

90. Invest in low emission coal plants.

 

91. Transition to new electric digit grid.

 

92. Double science funding for clean energy products.

 

93. Create Green Jobs Corps.

 

94. Invest in programs to help manufacturers make transition to green products.

 

95. Create clean technologies venture capital fund.

 

96. Deploy cellulosic ethanol.

 

97. Expand locally owned biofuel refineries.

 

98. Increase renewable fuel standards.

 

99. Establish national low carbon fuel standard.

 

100. Increase fuel economy standards.

 

101. Invest in solar energy.

 

102. Invest in wind energy.

 

103. Establish a centralized database to track lobbyist activities.

 

104. Appoint an independent watchdog group to oversee congressional ethic violations.

 

105. Favors campaign finance reform.

 

106. Sunshine on legislation proposal.

 

107. End abuse of no bid contracts.

 

108. Release presidential records in a more timely fashion.

 

109. Prevent political appointees from working as lobbyists within two years after employment has ended.

 

110. Reform political appointment process.

 

111. Sign ethics legislation that he proposed as a Senator with Russ Feingold.

 

112. Obama sponsored a bi-partisan bill allowing regular people to track federal grants.

 

113. Take leadership in the global fight against AIDS.

 

114. Provide tax cuts to small businesses.

 

115. Provide income tax cuts for all senior citizens making $50,000 a year or less.

 

116. Expand the Earned Income Tax Credit.

 

117. Protect workers from caregiver discrimination.

 

118. Increase mentoring programs for beginner teachers.

 

119. Provide universal health care for all Americans within 4 years.

 

120. Combat fraudulent subprime loans.

 

121. Expand Nurse Family Partnership.

 

122. Provide automatic workplace pensions for workers.

 

123. Expand savings credit for retirement accounts.

 

124. Reinstate pay as you go budget rules.

 

125. Repeal Bush tax cuts for top 1% which led to lower middle class standard of living.

 

126. Slash earmarks to pre 2001 levels.

 

127. Abolish obsolete wasteful government programs.

 

128. Voted against raising the minimum debt in 2006.

 

129. Supports wiping out Al Qaeda wherever they may be.

 

130. Opposed Kyl Lieberman.

 

131. Supports tough attempts at diplomacy with Iran to protect America's interests.

 

132. Will work to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

 

133. Restrengthen NATO.

 

134. Passed a bipartisan law with Senator Lugar to prevent smuggling of WMDs.

 

135. Introduced a bill with Senator Hagel to reduce nuclear arsenals around the globe.

 

136. Supports securing loose nuke arsenals from the former Soviet Union and elsewhere.

 

137. Strengthen Non Nuclear Proliferation Treaty.

 

138. Expand size of Army by 65,000.

 

139. Expand size of Marines by 27,000.

 

140. Provide our troops with new equipment and the tools they need.

 

141. Provide National Service troops with adequate leave time.

 

142. Will insulate the Director of National Intelligence from partisan politics.

 

143. Guarantee that health care can never be denied because of a pre-existing condition.

 

144. Introduce a health care plan similar to the one members of Congress have and give all Americans access to this plan.

 

145. Simplify the paperwork in health care costs.

 

146. Make premiums and co pays affordable.

 

147. Require mandatory coverage of all children for health care.

 

148. Expand SCHIP.

 

149. Expand Medicaid.

 

150. Reduce costs of catastrophic illnesses for employers and employees.

 

151. Support disease management programs.

 

152. Require hospitals and providers to have full transparency over costs.

 

153. Promote patient safety by requiring providers to report medical errors.

 

154. Establish an independent institute to guide reviews + research on comparative effectiveness in health care.

 

155. Strengthen anti trust laws to prevent insurance companies from gouging medical providers.

 

156. Lower medical costs by having electronic health info systems.

 

157. Increase competition in prescription drug markets.

 

158. Advance biomedical research field.

 

159. Improve mental care coverage.

 

160. Reduce mercury deposits to help prevent miscarriages.

 

161. Increase funding for autism research.

 

162. Cosponsored Healthy Kids Act of 2007.

 

163. Cosponsored reauthorization of SCHIP in 2007.

 

164. Obama introduced legislation to establish guidelines to monitor fuels from nuclear power plants.

 

165. Sponsored a bill with Senator Lautenberg to protect chemical plants from possible terrorist attacks.

 

166. Introduced legislation to upgrade monitoring of water supplies.

 

167. Introduced legislation to protect localities from radioactive leaks.

 

168. Create secure borders with additional personnel and infrastructure.

 

169. Remove incentives for people to enter this country illegally.

 

170. Crack down on employers who hire illegal immigrants.

 

171. Invest in transitional jobs.

 

172. Improve transportation access to jobs.

 

173. Fully fund community block grants.

 

174. Create an affordable housing trust fund.

 

175. Establish a program called 20 Promise Neighborhoods.

 

176. Invest in rural areas, especially small businesses, schools, and doctors.

 

177. Implement a payment limitation program to help small farmers.

 

178. Protect family farms from anti-competitive monopolies.

 

179. Implement tough fines for CAFO violations.

 

180. Establish country of origin labeling for all products.

 

181. Support regional food systems.

 

182. Encourage organic farming.

 

183. Provide tax credits for young farmers.

 

184. Increase capital for small farmers.

 

185. Modify FCC so all rural residents have access to modern communications.

 

186. Upgrade rural infrastructure.

 

187. Supported legislation to reverse 2 billion dollars of agriculture cuts under Bush.

 

188. Cosponsored Emergency Farm Relief Act of 2006.

 

189. Sponsored a bill to combat the scourge of methamphetamines.

 

190. Expand Americorps.

 

191. Double the Peacecorps in 8 years.

 

192. Expand Service learning in all our schools.

 

193. Offer an opportunity tax credit for college students in exchange for 100 hours of community service.

 

194. Promote college work study programs with public service.

 

195. Expand on the YouthBuild program.

 

196. Create a Social Investment Fund Network.

 

197. Create a non profit entrepreneur agency.

 

198. Protect Social Security.

 

199. Reform corporate bankruptcy laws.

 

200. Strengthen laws protecting against age discrimination in the workplace.

 

201. Ensure heating assistance for senior citizens.

 

202. Protect the openness of the Internet.

 

203. Encourage diversity in media ownership.

 

204. Protect children from Internet predators with strict law enforcement.

 

205. Support transition of the internet into the digital world.

 

206. Preserve artistic expression.

 

207. Keep inappropriate advertising away from programs for children.

 

208. Enhance safety standards for toys imported into this country.

 

209. Protect the right of privacy of every law abiding American.

 

210. Update surveillance laws under the rule of law.

 

211. Higher salaries for teachers.

 

212. Work with the FTC to cut down on cyber crimes.

 

213. Eliminate teach to the test curriculum and restore true learning to the classroom.

 

214. Open up government to citizens by providing transparency.

 

215. Provide all our schools with broadband technology.

 

216. Modernize public safety networks.

 

217. Make the research and development tax credit permanent.

 

218. Protect intellectual property at home and abroad.

 

219. Reform the patent system to encourage innovation.

 

220. Allow all veterans back into the VA.

 

221. Strengthen VA care for all veterans.

 

222. Fight veterans employment discrimination.

 

223. Fix the benefits bureaucracy to help veterans.

 

224. Expand vet centers across the country.

 

225. Obama passed legilsation to slash red tape to help wounded soldiers at Walter Reed.

 

226. Introduced legislation to direct the VA and Pentagon to fix its veterans record systems.

 

227. Introduced legislation to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina.

 

228. Rebuild the roads and bridges that need to be rebuilt.

 

229. Will end the genocide in Darfur.

 

230. Will restore habeas corpus to America.

 

231. Reject torture.

 

232. Close down Gitmo.

 

233. Pledges to obey the Constitution of the United States.

 

234. Will fully implement and enforce the Equal Pay Act.

 

235. End tax breaks for US companies sending jobs overseas.

 

236. Voted to reinstate 1.15 billion to the COPS program to reduce crime.

 

237. Wants to keep drinking age at 21.

 

238. Supports grants to local educational agencies.

 

239. Voted to protect ANWR.

 

240. Voted to protect the Great Lakes from polluters.

 

241. Favors labor and trade standards with trade with China.

 

242. Opposed CAFTA which hurts American workers.

 

243. Voting to give the District of Columbia its proper vote in Congress.

 

244. Voted to expand enrollment period for Medicare Part D.

 

245. Favors repealing the discriminatory don't ask don't tell policy.

 

246. Provide first responders with the health care and equipment they need.

 

247. Voted to implement the 9/11 commission recommendations.

 

248. Voted to restore money to ports and first responders.

 

249. Voted to establish a Guest Worker program.

 

250. Voted to increase the minimum wage.

 

251. Voted against anti-Constitution radicals Alito and Roberts.

 

252. Voted against the repeal of the estate tax that only applies to 1% of the wealthiest of estates.

 

253. Supports the first amendment freedom of religion clauses and establishment clauses.

 

254. Introduced a bill requiring public companies to give shareholders an annual nonbinding vote on executive compensation.

 

255. Protects our schools by opposing voucher schemes.

 

256. Introduced Biofuels Security Act in 2007.

 

257. Favors closing corporate tax loopholes.

 

258. Understands that global warming is a real problem that must be addressed.

 

259. Supports civil unions for LGBT couples.

 

260. Favors the death penalty in the rarest but appropriate of circumstances.

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and to pay for all this when we are 9 trill in debt he wants to...

 

Get out of Iraq and shave the taxes for the uber-rich. That's how he wants to pay for this. :overhead:

 

Again, people need to do some research. This notion that he has no real positions/ideas/plans simply because he's an inspirational speaker is, well, absurd. Hell, go to his website and take five minutes to read. :overhead:

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3. Supports capturing and killing Osama Bin Laden.

and I support bunnies and rainbows

4, Favors a $1000 tax cut for every working American family.

favors does not equal promise

7. Provide a tax cut for all families making less than $75,000 a year.

because if you and your wife combined make over 75k you're a millionaire with a yacht

8. Amend NAFTA to protect American workers.

Yeaaa...how?

12. Supported Patriot Employer Act of 2007 that gives tax credits to large companies that keep workers here in America.

the same companies you attack for not paying much in taxes already??

17. Tackle the challenges of global warming.

don't be so specific

25. Ensure freedom to unionize.

ya we don't have enough unions

31. Sign the Stop Fraud Act to prevent lending fraud.

just like all the other laws have stopped crime altogether

 

46. Create a bankruptcy exemption for people that went broke because of medical bills.

Yea that won't be a problem

52. Supports independent, community based living for people with disabilities.

huh?

54. Expand job opportunities for people with disabilities.

double huh?

55. Strengthen civil rights enforcement.

triple huh??

57. Sign law reversing recent SCOTUS rulings that permitted discrimination against women.

quadruple huh?!

63. Passed a law to prohibit the practice of racial profiling.

quintuple huh?!

65. Opposes all discriminatory barriers to voting.

like what? literacy?

67. Voted to ban cluster bombs.

:overhead:

68. Provide high quality affordable child care to families.

does he use his magic wand?

72. Abolish overly rigid teach to the test curriculum in schools.

73. Improve accountability in public schools.

So make the tests easier...but crack down harder...huh?

85. Reduce carbon emissions by 80% by 2050.

While you're at it, why not make it 100%

102. Invest in wind energy.

You are certainly creating a lot of your own.

103. Establish a centralized database to track lobbyist activities.

yea that'll pass Congress

104. Appoint an independent watchdog group to oversee congressional ethic violations.

see above

113. Take leadership in the global fight against AIDS.

Bush is already

 

119. Provide universal health care for all Americans within 4 years.

:overhead: Welfare of the 21st century? Will this happen before or after all of his tax cuts and spending increases?

 

125. Repeal Bush tax cuts for top 1% which led to lower middle class standard of living.

What?

127. Abolish obsolete wasteful government programs.

Like all of them?

132. Will work to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

No problemo.

134. Passed a bipartisan law with Senator Lugar to prevent smuggling of WMDs.

That'll stop em from doing it!

135. Introduced a bill with Senator Hagel to reduce nuclear arsenals around the globe.

see above

138. Expand size of Army by 65,000.

huh

139. Expand size of Marines by 27,000.

wha?

140. Provide our troops with new equipment and the tools they need.

The better the tools the more efficient our retreat.

 

144. Introduce a health care plan similar to the one members of Congress have and give all Americans access to this plan.

Yea, here ya go. no biggie.

 

159. Improve mental care coverage.

for the people who believe this crap

 

168. Create secure borders with additional personnel and infrastructure.

Problem solved.

169. Remove incentives for people to enter this country illegally.

Isn't that what conservatives are attacked for?

170. Crack down on employers who hire illegal immigrants.

Isn't that what conservatives are attacked for?

183. Provide tax credits for young farmers.

Define young

 

198. Protect Social Security.

is that what we need the extra troops for?

 

206. Preserve artistic expression.

:overhead:

 

209. Protect the right of privacy of every law abiding American.

ok

210. Update surveillance laws under the rule of law.

hey wait a second...

211. Higher salaries for teachers.

They get paid enough

 

229. Will end the genocide in Darfur.

No problemo!

230. Will restore habeas corpus to America.

Sure.

231. Reject torture.

So you reject reading this too?

 

237. Wants to keep drinking age at 21.

I thought you were against age discrimmination... 18=adult

 

240. Voted to protect the Great Lakes from polluters.

But not the Canadian side...

241. Favors labor and trade standards with trade with China.

But earlier you said you'd protect american jobs...

 

243. Voting to give the District of Columbia its proper vote in Congress.

I'm sorry, is that in the Constitution?

 

251. Voted against anti-Constitution radicals Alito and Roberts.

huh???????????????

252. Voted against the repeal of the estate tax that only applies to 1% of the wealthiest of estates.

Death tax should be completely eliminated.

 

259. Supports civil unions for LGBT couples.

Got a lot of guts making this loser issue #259

260. Favors the death penalty in the rarest but appropriate of circumstances.

define appropriate.

 

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Most importantly he stands for HOPE! :overhead:

 

:overhead:

 

 

Hope? His hope was at the start of all this, the American people would be stupid enough to vote for him because of the color of his skin. His hope was right.

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Hope? His hope was at the start of all this, the American people would be stupid enough to vote for him because of the color of his skin. His hope was right.

 

 

and the fact that early favorite rudy poo flamed out in spectacular fashion.....

 

and that hillary would be hated so much that he could just skate in untouched...

 

he wants nothing to do with Iraq..so he would be OK with hussein still alive? oh wait...check middle name..duh...

 

 

if u smell-lelelelelelelelelelelelllllllllllllllllllll....what barrack

 

 

is

 

 

 

cooking... :rolleyes:

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Well Barak I'llBombYa is a better choice than Hillary. Which isn't saying much.

 

 

People being allowed to vote that have no business voting is where the issue begins

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Everyone sucks I think as usual in the Prez race - But in Obama at least theres a chance he might not be totally shitty.

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So basically he is telling the idiot masses he wants the gubmint to do everything for them, and he will pay for it by punishing the "evil rich" and cutting and running from Iraq.

 

Gotcha.

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I see a number of his positions discuss punishing fraudulent lenders and unscrupulous creditors.

I see some other positions that discuss raising the minimum wage and protecting the every-day working American

 

Where's the part about saying F-you to the "everyday working Americans" that took 200k in equity out of their homes to live a lifestyle they couldn't afford?

Where's the part about being financially responsible even if you only make minimum wage or less than $75k a year?

 

Sounds to me like Obama's making this all the fault of the lenders and telling the stupid asses that got themselves into this jam not to worry because the minimum wage is going to be increased so you can keep driving your mercedes even if you only make $30k a year.

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2. Voted to end Iraq war.

 

I suppose this happened at his dinner table. He did this right before he voted to have his wife pass the peas. She declined.

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233. Pledges to obey the Constitution of the United States.

 

This is the funniest one here.

 

I got my biggest laughs from 'ban cluster bombs' and 'preserve artistic expression'

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I remember when the kid running for Class president in 7th grade said "I pledge to make lunch free"

 

he got elected and it never happened. :mad:

 

 

Don't you fockers realize people will say anything to get elected?

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What's his stance on the border fence and immigration? I've read his website and I get a whole lot of nothin concrete. :mad:

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What's his stance on the border fence and immigration? I've read his website and I get a whole lot of nothin concrete. :mad:

 

Sounds to me like you hate blacks.

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Some of it sounds good. :unsure:

Some of it sounds like bullshit. :banana:

And none of it says how it will actually be paid for. :lol:

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Some of it sounds good. :unsure:

Some of it sounds like bullshit. :banana:

And none of it says how it will actually be paid for. :lol:

 

 

:lol: the wealthiest 1% are gonna' pay more taxes and pay for it all!

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3. Supports capturing and killing Osama Bin Laden.

you mean treating him like a criminal and going thru the justice system's due process? or lynching the motha-focker? john edwards would prolly defend and get him off.

 

7. Provide a tax cut for all families making less than $75,000 a year.

i agree, cuz $75 grand is a ton of family income - if you live in uganda.

 

33. Create a fund to protect people from foreclosures.

yo, robinhood - you're going to spend MY tax dollars on somebody who lives way beyond their means, has a coke habbit and refuses to drive a 3-year old car?

 

113. Take leadership in the global fight against AIDS.

who in the hell give more than us already? people beotch about pumping billions into iraq, what about africa? how bout spending that money at home, perhaps even investing it into finding cures for aids instead of filling the pockets of corrupt adiministrators and bureaucratic pirates?

 

119. Provide universal health care for all Americans within 4 years.

157. Increase competition in prescription drug markets.

so, free market capitalism in some areas - socialism in others? got it.

 

132. Will work to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

you pull this off, david copperfield is out of a job.

 

169. Remove incentives for people to enter this country illegally.

yea, like giving driver's licenses to illegal aliens - what dumbass was for that? uh buddy, with a democratic controlled congress - illegal immigrants will be not only continue to enjoy free education, healthcare and no-taxation, they will prolly be given brand new trucks.

 

209. Protect the right of privacy of every law abiding American.

hey, don't forget the terrorist, they have feelings too!

 

227. Introduced legislation to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina.

how bout a swift kick in da ass to get motivated.

 

233. Pledges to obey the Constitution of the United States.

the judges you appoint to the SCOTUS will make their own version.

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Cruzer comes in and ties gettnhuge. tiebreaker?

 

btw, KD how about posting how he expects to get this stuff done? I hear a lot of 'change' talk but he doesn't ever say how he will do it. at least hillary has said how she will do certian things but nothing from half breed. :thumbsup:

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We should all vote for Obama.....because it is either him or Hillary, take your pick. I seriously hope none of you guys are voting for Hillary for the primaries. There is no way a republican is winning after what Bush has done, it is an unfortunate fact, but, McCain stands no chance against either of the Dems.

 

I am voting for Obama basically by default. I honestly don't care who wins as long as it's not Hillary, i seriously 100% think if she wins this country will officially be focked and will fall from it's super power status. McCain is ok, i don't really think he can improve anything just not makes things worse basically. Obama is a risky canidate, but, i can see him actually making things better in this country, he is the only canidate i can see doing that.

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We should all vote for Obama.....because it is either him or Hillary, take your pick. I seriously hope none of you guys are voting for Hillary for the primaries. There is no way a republican is winning after what Bush has done, it is an unfortunate fact, but, McCain stands no chance against either of the Dems.

 

I am voting for Obama basically by default. I honestly don't care who wins as long as it's not Hillary, i seriously 100% think if she wins this country will officially be focked and will fall from it's super power status. McCain is ok, i don't really think he can improve anything just not makes things worse basically. Obama is a risky canidate, but, i can see him actually making things better in this country, he is the only canidate i can see doing that.

 

 

by default? thats a dangerous thought....whens the last time Obama has said anything of substance?..

 

agree with mccain, hillary or dont..but at least they have been there and have substance behind their ideas..and the ideas are their own...

 

obamas ideas arent even his own..they are copied...

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the only people voting for hitlary are people over 60....but it seems like they are the only people voting in some states.

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by default? thats a dangerous thought....whens the last time Obama has said anything of substance?..

 

agree with mccain, hillary or dont..but at least they have been there and have substance behind their ideas..and the ideas are their own...

 

obamas ideas arent even his own..they are copied...

 

Remember the Clinton 92 strategy? D-ck Morris and Stephynappeles talked about it separately over the years.

Promise everything, say you have solutions for everything, do whatever you can to get into office because then

you are the one in power controlling the situation. About a decade ago when Stephynopeles was talking about this, he was

asked about the promise Clinton made of middle class tax cuts which ended up being a large tax increase. Stephy's

response: That was one of the promises we never intended to keep.

 

so that stratemgy has worked before.

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Remember the Clinton 92 strategy? D-ck Morris and Stephynappeles talked about it separately over the years.

Promise everything, say you have solutions for everything, do whatever you can to get into office because then

you are the one in power controlling the situation. About a decade ago when Stephynopeles was talking about this, he was

asked about the promise Clinton made of middle class tax cuts which ended up being a large tax increase. Stephy's

response: That was one of the promises we never intended to keep.

 

so that stratemgy has worked before.

 

sure it has....all im saying is obama has no real clue and is flyig by the seat of his pants...googling up sayings and staying away from debates or anything of substance..worry about it when hes in office and trust me..we all will worry about it....

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Does he realize you actually have to DO these things if you're elected? It's not a "Congrats. You win. Here's a 50000th youtube video and 4 unconscious bitches. See ya in 2012.

 

I mean, to even add things like "capture and kill osama bin laden" to your "to-do list" is completely idiotic. Who the fock isn't? Do you honestly think copying the same crap everyone else says counts as having a platform? Honestly. It drives me insane to see a country so focking moronic that they'll vote for who MTV tells them to. Having the cool young mixed guy who talks about hope and how we should all just be people and get along and not have any poor people or wars or racism or political parties is nice and focking dandy, but when you're done rubbing one out on his pie-in-the-sky, reality sets in and you've got to have someone who knows what the hell they're doing, how to do it, and the way things work in the real world where you dont give rehearsed speeches in front of people who'd honestly go tear apart a city if Cap'n Messiah on stage told them to. Jesus.

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Nowhere did I see he will legalize poker on the internet so you don't have to jump through 50 focking hoops to fund your account. :pointstosky:

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We should all vote for Obama.....because it is either him or Hillary, take your pick. I seriously hope none of you guys are voting for Hillary for the primaries. There is no way a republican is winning after what Bush has done, it is an unfortunate fact, but, McCain stands no chance against either of the Dems.

they said the exact same things heading into kerry v. bush, no way bush could possibly be re-elected. and kerry was even a more qualified candidate than obama. bush carried 31 states and got 51.7% of the popular vote - i think it's entirely possible for mccain to win given the alternative.

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I think this cats wife is going to blow it for him. What is in her thesis that she is hiding and the crack about this being the only time she was proud of America. Let the biotch be proud of Africa for a couple weeks where she can waller in rhino shiot, get aids, and get sold to the neighboring country for rape material. Seriously, all you fuckers who cry about the US all the time, why not focking leave then? rant over.

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Does he realize you actually have to DO these things if you're elected? It's not a "Congrats. You win. Here's a 50000th youtube video and 4 unconscious bitches. See ya in 2012.

 

I mean, to even add things like "capture and kill osama bin laden" to your "to-do list" is completely idiotic. Who the fock isn't? Do you honestly think copying the same crap everyone else says counts as having a platform? Honestly. It drives me insane to see a country so focking moronic that they'll vote for who MTV tells them to. Having the cool young mixed guy who talks about hope and how we should all just be people and get along and not have any poor people or wars or racism or political parties is nice and focking dandy, but when you're done rubbing one out on his pie-in-the-sky, reality sets in and you've got to have someone who knows what the hell they're doing, how to do it, and the way things work in the real world where you dont give rehearsed speeches in front of people who'd honestly go tear apart a city if Cap'n Messiah on stage told them to. Jesus.

:pointstosky:

 

for a young little h0mo, you're pretty smart Me2006. :thumbsup:

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:pointstosky:

 

for a young little h0mo, you're pretty smart Me2006. :thumbsup:

 

I like to think that the Geek Club has played a small, but not insignificant, role in his proper development.

 

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I like to think that the Geek Club has played a small, but not insignificant, role in his proper development.

 

:pointstosky:

if by "role", you mean "stunted"...then acreed.

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Does he realize you actually have to DO these things if you're elected? It's not a "Congrats. You win. Here's a 50000th youtube video and 4 unconscious bitches. See ya in 2012.

 

well done, but just look at all the promises the libs threw out there 2 years ago and won congress. Wasn't reducing gas prices

in their long to-do list for the first 100 days? how are all those empty promises doing?

 

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