Terry Bradshaw = Barry Bonds

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As if we didn't already know the 70's Steelers teams were all juiced up:

 

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/06/23/...3909x1200208119

 

 

[pittnthat 0]

As if we didn't already know the 70's Steelers teams were all juiced up:

 

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/06/23/...3909x1200208119

 

Terry Bradshaw = Rodney Harrisson. Except they were leagal for Terry.

[Dan 66]

It's a shame, yes. I'm glad he admitted it, and although I'd rather they not have done that, I'll remain a fan.

 

The legality makes it different from Bonds and others of this era . . . but, bigger . . . he's come out and admitted it. Bonds is still trying to spin it away.

[FlaHawker 24]

Terry Bradshaw = Rodney Harrisson. Except they were leagal for Terry.

the ultimate Steeler spin master And when it really looks bad for the Steelers, just mention a Patriot

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

the ultimate Steeler spin master And when it really looks bad for the Steelers, just mention a Patriot

 

About half the NFL of the 1970's were on steroids. Oakland Raiders, anyone?

 

And I'm sure the movie North Dallas Forty wasn't foreshadowing a certain "team" that played in Texas, neither.

 

Maybe more Seahawks could have taken steroids during that time. Maybe they'd have won a few more games.

[Fumbleweed 547]

About half the NFL of the 1970's were on steroids.

 

True statement. These were doctor prescribed anyway....it's a non-story.

[Skinny_Bastard 157]

Maybe that's why he's so clean up top. All that juice destroyed his hair follicles.

[jgcrawfish 232]

You guys are amazing...they were freakin localized injections...and those are legal now. Shiit, people get steroids for chest congestion now. There's a difference between that and the roid ragin, muscle building, testes shrinkin, moob growing variety you buncha tools...

 

(fwiw, i don't doubt the many of the Steelers took the bad variety of steroids, but to make the leap that TB did is a little much)

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the ultimate Steeler spin master And when it really looks bad for the Steelers, just mention a Patriot

 

I know the board idiot really isn't calling me out for spinning. Were they leagal or not?

Forget it, I'll talk to the wall and have more of an indepth conversation.

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[FlaHawker 24]

Maybe more Seahawks could have taken steroids during that time. Maybe they'd have won a few more games.

Or maybe if Mr. Glass took some he could actually finish a 16 game season

[FlaHawker 24]

I know the board idiot really isn't calling me out for spinning. Were they leagal or not?

Forget it, I'll talk to the wall and have more of an indepth conversation.

spinning like a focking top!

 

OBTW, You can't spell legal, but I'm an idiot

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

True statement. These were doctor prescribed anyway....it's a non-story.

 

I didn't even read it.

 

It was a free-for-all in the 70's NFL.

 

You only have to look at a picture of the Steeler starting offensive line (aka, Jon Kolb) to figure out who was on steroids.

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

Or maybe if Mr. Glass took some he could actually finish a 16 game season

 

Or get over the fact that a team got beat fair and square, and quit b!tching about the referee's calls.

 

 

 

Winner winner, chicken dinner mother effer.

[LOD01 198]

I know the board idiot really isn't calling me out for spinning. Were they leagal or not?

Forget it, I'll talk to the wall and have more of an indepth conversation.

 

 

[jgcrawfish 232]

FlaHawker, "Official Hemorrhoid of the FFToday Bored"

[FlaHawker 24]

Or get over the fact that a team got beat fair and square, and quit b!tching about the referee's calls.

Winner winner, chicken dinner mother effer.

Keep telling yourself that and one day you'll really believe it

[FlaHawker 24]

FlaHawker, "Official Hemorrhoid of the FFToday Bored"

[jgcrawfish 232]

 

dude

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Damn! And I just got over that Referee screw job and you had to bring me right back!

 

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True statement. These were doctor prescribed anyway....it's a non-story.

 

So it's ok for someone in the 70's to have done it because it wasn't banned yet but a guy 20 years later is crucified for it? I'm not buying that. For the record I don't put any * next to the Steelers dynasty of the 70's regardless of the legality of steroids or how many teams were doing them. My point was a guy like Bonds has been reduced to a disgrace for doing the same thing athletes have done for decades.

 

I don't give a crap if MLB finally started testing and enforcing the rules after the fact. And yes Bonds has denied it but how many other athletes have owned up to it without being caught? The gist of my post was I think Bonds is getting a bum deal given the history of roids. It's a double standard IMO.

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[sirensong 111]

some of you guys (especially the OP) need to do a teensy bit of research about the different types and medical uses of steroids. just a hint--if your only knowledge of the word comes from sports sources, you're probably not well enough informed to understand the distinction.

 

[FlaHawker 24]

dude

Right back at ya Bridesmaid

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

Keep telling yourself that and one day you'll really believe it

 

I tend to stick to reality. Seattle lost just like Philly. Deal with it, champ.

[The Moz 69]

Wonder how greta the STEEL CURTAIN woulda been today w/o roids? Would all those guys be HOF worthy?

 

Take the 00 Ravens D and put all those guys on Roids

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

Wonder how greta the STEEL CURTAIN woulda been today w/o roids? Would all those guys be HOF worthy?

 

Take the 00 Ravens D and put all those guys on Roids

 

Who's to say the Ravens' D wasn't on steroids?

 

Who's to say the Steel Curtain was on steroids? There offensive line was, but no proof their defense was.

[The Moz 69]

Who's to say the Ravens' D wasn't on steroids?

 

There offensive line was, but no proof their defense was.

 

 

There's no proof OJ did it either!

[FlaHawker 24]

I tend to stick to reality. Seattle lost just like Philly. Deal with it, champ.

Here is the reality:. The officiating in that game was incompetent as I have said all along. I have standards. I'm sorry you and the NFL don't.

 

And whose crying? You injected SB XL in this thread, not I

[CornKobb 48]

check out the movie....North Dallas 40 starring Nick Nolte....good flick with lots of needles in the training room.

 

[lambert58 71]

Wonder how greta the STEEL CURTAIN woulda been today w/o roids? Would all those guys be HOF worthy?

 

Take the 00 Ravens D and put all those guys on Roids

 

 

If the Steelers D was on Roids in the 70's they sure did a horrible job of using them.

 

D.E. L.C. Greenwood 6'6" 245 lbs.

 

D.E. Dwight White 6-4" 255 lbs.

 

D.T. Joe Greene 6'4" 275 lbs.

 

D.T. Ernie Holmes 6'3" 260 lbs. (and they called him fats???)

 

MLB. Jack Lambert (God!) 6'4" 219 lbs. (look it up yourself!)

 

OLB. Jack Ham (God 2) 6'1" 225 lbs.

 

 

Not saying they did not use steroids but they sure weren't using them to build muscle or mass like today's athletes.

 

Compare that to The Ravens defense... Hell, Ray Lewis probably weighed more than both of the Steelers D- Ends.

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

Here is the reality:. The officiating in that game was incompetent as I have said all along. I have standards. I'm sorry you and the NFL don't.

 

And whose crying? You injected SB XL in this thread, not I

 

You act like a b!tch on the site because the Steelers beat the Seahawks, in the SB, and you refuse to validate that fact because in your opinion, it was terrible officiating.

 

Good or bad, officiating is apart of the game. A game in which the Seahawks lost. Clearly your bitterness bleeds into your opinion of the Steelers. How long has it been now?

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

If the Steelers D was on Roids in the 70's they sure did a horrible job of using them.

 

D.E. L.C. Greenwood 6'6" 245 lbs.

 

D.E. Dwight White 6-4" 255 lbs.

 

D.T. Joe Greene 6'4" 275 lbs.

 

D.T. Ernie Holmes 6'3" 260 lbs. (and they called him fats???)

 

MLB. Jack Lambert (God!) 6'4" 219 lbs. (look it up yourself!)

 

OLB. Jack Ham (God 2) 6'1" 225 lbs.

Not saying they did not use steroids but they sure weren't using them to build muscle or mass like today's athletes.

 

Compare that to The Ravens defense... Hell, Ray Lewis probably weighed more than both of the Steelers D- Ends.

 

Thank you. Very first thing I thought of was Jack Lambert, he of the "chicken legs" moniker.

 

They were just some bad motherf@ckers up front.

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some of you guys (especially the OP) need to do a teensy bit of research about the different types and medical uses of steroids. just a hint--if your only knowledge of the word comes from sports sources, you're probably not well enough informed to understand the distinction.

 

 

 

Are you saying the steroids Bradshaw used are less potent than the ones Bonds used and were less of an advantage? I don't think I want to take the time to research the difference between the two. I'm assuming they are both illegal and create some type of advantage as far as healing/growth are concerned. If the substance would be considered illegal to use that's all that matters IMO.

[Dan 66]

Are you saying the steroids Bradshaw used are less potent than the ones Bonds used and were less of an advantage? I don't think I want to take the time to research the difference between the two. I'm assuming they are both illegal and create some type of advantage as far as healing/growth are concerned. If the substance would be considered illegal to use that's all that matters IMO.

 

But. . . it was not illegal. Not sure I understand your point here. If you're not going to do the research that makes a significant difference in your argument, then you rather give license to the questions and challenges, do you not?

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

Are you saying the steroids Bradshaw used are less potent than the ones Bonds used and were less of an advantage? I don't think I want to take the time to research the difference between the two. I'm assuming they are both illegal and create some type of advantage as far as healing/growth are concerned. If the substance would be considered illegal to use that's all that matters IMO.

 

Bradshaw's physician prescribed him steroids. It's illegal to obtain and/or distribute steroids without a prescription (Class III controlled substance).

 

If a physician is prescribing them, it must mean that Bradshaw had a physical ailment that required a steroid treatment (or the doctor was not on the up and up). That would make it legal under the Controlled Substance Act.

 

Besides, the NFL banned steroids in 1987 and started testing for them at the very same time. Bradshaw's career ended in 1983.

[sirensong 111]

Are you saying the steroids Bradshaw used are less potent than the ones Bonds used and were less of an advantage? I don't think I want to take the time to research the difference between the two. I'm assuming they are both illegal and create some type of advantage as far as healing/growth are concerned. If the substance would be considered illegal to use that's all that matters IMO.

 

from medicinenet:

 

Steroid: A general class of chemical substances that are structurally related to one another and share the same chemical skeleton (a tetracyclic cyclopenta[a]phenanthrene skeleton).

 

Many hormones, body constituents, and drugs are steroids. Thus, the term steroid may carry many meanings. For example, steroids may refer to the corticosteroid drugs such as prednisone used to reduce swelling, pain, and other symptoms of inflammation. Vitamin D is a steroid, too, one that is necessary to normal health. The male hormone testosterone and its derivatives are steroids with anabolic effects that can be used medically (or illicitly) to build up muscle mass.

 

Cholesterol is yet again another steroid. In fact, the word steroid was coined in 1926 to refer to compounds like the sterols (as in cholesterol).

 

bradshaw's doctor has clearly and unequivocally stated that the substance in question was not an anabolic steroid. it was not performance enhancing, not against NFL rules, and not illegal.

 

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If the steroid Bradshaw is admitting to is a legal sustance to take in sports today then this is a non-issue and should have never been given any press to begin with. I know all about prednisone and to say it's not performance enhancing is bs. After taking that stuff you have a hell of a lot more endurance in the gym. Prednisone may not make you build mass but it wires you so you can work out harder. I know first hand as I've taken it more than once via. prescription.

 

Even a non- anabolic steroid like prednisone gives you an advantage when working out. It also makes you heal up quicker than someone without it. Asthmatics have to take it constantly to control their asthma. Do leagues even test for it or penalize for using it? Anabolic or not, steroids of many forms can provide an advantage. It's very possible that the anabolic roids guys like Bonds used are more advantageous but where do you draw the line?

[sirensong 111]

It's very possible that the anabolic roids guys like Bonds used are more advantageous but where do you draw the line?

 

i would suggest that the line be drawn by using the state of the law and the NFL rulebook at the time.

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i would suggest that the line be drawn by using the state of the law and the NFL rulebook at the time.

 

 

So if Barry Bonds only did steroids before MLB sanctioned anyone for using them then he shouldn't be villified for it? I agree.