The Official Giants vs America's Team Thread!

[Joey Gladstone 33]

The Dallas defense has been fantastic, they're definitely playing up to their potential. We'll see if Dallas has the character to keep this ship on course.

 

Next week you play an angry Ravens team that DESPISES TO. It should be interesting.

[Eagles Green 34]

After a good nights sleep the win is much sweeter. I had a dream about Dallas winning the Super Bowl last night. America's Team is back and we just killed the Giants.

I would love to kick you in the vagina.

 

[Dallas_Empire 0]

I would love to kick you in the vagina.

 

 

 

See you in two weeks. T.O. is going to tear down the Linc.

[NewbieJr 541]

Boo hoo. Take your crying somewhere else little man.

I'm neither crying, nor little. Get that straight, Tubby.

 

You also look like a tool defending your brother, Dull-ass Empire. itsatip.

[jgcrawfish 232]

Nevermores 30 - Cowpies 16

 

So it is written, so shall it be...

 

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Nevermores 30 - Cowpies 16

 

So it is written, so shall it be...

 

 

Right, because with how their offense has been playing, 30 points on the Ravens should be cake.

 

Owns will be lucky if he finishes the game.

[jgcrawfish 232]

Right, because with how their offense has been playing, 30 points on the Ravens should be cake.

 

Owns will be lucky if he finishes the game.

 

Oh, biggest case of alligator arms coming this week...EVER!

[Dallas_Empire 0]

Oh, biggest case of alligator arms coming this week...EVER!

 

 

The way the Dallas defense has been playing; the ravens will not score more than 9 points.

[jgcrawfish 232]

The way the Dallas defense has been playing; the ravens will not score more than 9 points.

 

 

hmmmmm...Ravens scored 9 on the Steelers, but Steelers rang up 20 on the Cowboys...hmmm...again, i've spoke on this...

 

Nevermores 30 - Cowpies 16

 

So it is written, so shall it be...

 

doubt not the pronosticationing of the crawfish...

[sirensong 111]

hmmmmm...Ravens scored 9 on the Steelers, but Steelers rang up 20 on the Cowboys...hmmm...again, i've spoke on this...

 

Nevermores 30 - Cowpies 16

 

So it is written, so shall it be...

 

doubt not the pronosticationing of the crawfish...

 

ahhh...jgcrawfish.

 

i seem to remember a rather vehement post from you last week about the dallas defense being much worse than the other top-5 defenses the steelers had played, all of which had given up 2+ TDs to the steelers offense.

 

remarkably enough, the dallas D held the steelers to a single TD and 13 total points.

 

after which the crawfish was strangely silent.

 

should be interesting to see how dallas fares against the run this week, given that they haven't allowed a 100 yard rusher since week 9, when johnson/bollinger were playing, and dallas had a 5+ min deficit in TOP.

 

i'm curious...how many defensive TDs figure into your 30 point prognostication?

[idiotekniQues 0]

the giants should get a new OC.

 

i cant stand gilbride anymore.

[jgcrawfish 232]

ahhh...jgcrawfish.

 

i seem to remember a rather vehement post from you last week about the dallas defense being much worse than the other top-5 defenses the steelers had played, all of which had given up 2+ TDs to the steelers offense.

 

remarkably enough, the dallas D held the steelers to a single TD and 13 total points.

 

after which the crawfish was strangely silent.

 

should be interesting to see how dallas fares against the run this week, given that they haven't allowed a 100 yard rusher since week 9, when johnson/bollinger were playing, and dallas had a 5+ min deficit in TOP.

 

i'm curious...how many defensive TDs figure into your 30 point prognostication?

 

I've been anything but strangely silent. Hell, I've been a chest thumping posting fool since then. And my prognostication of the Steelers v Cowboys game was, 27 - 20 Pittsburgh. All that means is that the point differential was still EXACT!!! As for this prognostication, I'm giving the Dallas D credit for holding the Nevermores to 2 offensive touchdowns, but mistakes by Romo are gonna cost them some FG as well, and 1 defensive TD.

 

You should also go back and read some of my more recent posts where I acknowledge that the Cowboys defense is better than advertised. That being said, I still see them suffering a letdown this week after winning one huge emotional game and I see the Ravens being extremely pissed off about their loss.

[Dallas_Empire 0]

I've been anything but strangely silent. Hell, I've been a chest thumping posting fool since then. And my prognostication of the Steelers v Cowboys game was, 27 - 20 Pittsburgh. All that means is that the point differential was still EXACT!!! As for this prognostication, I'm giving the Dallas D credit for holding the Nevermores to 2 offensive touchdowns, but mistakes by Romo are gonna cost them some FG as well, and 1 defensive TD.

 

You should also go back and read some of my more recent posts where I acknowledge that the Cowboys defense is better than advertised. That being said, I still see them suffering a letdown this week after winning one huge emotional game and I see the Ravens being extremely pissed off about their loss.

 

 

http://cowboys.fandome.com/video/107567/Co...-vs-Giants/?q=k

[jgcrawfish 232]

http://cowboys.fandome.com/video/107567/Co...-vs-Giants/?q=k

 

Hey, i don't need your propaganda, i'm giving your team props because the defense deserves it. However, I don't believe it will continue. the only consistency the cowboys have shown is that they consistently lose in december, and last time i looked at the calendar, well, it's mid december. If the Steelers defense can befuddle Rhomo the Ravens can just as easily. Despite the pats on the i'm handing out to your deserving defense, your team still isn't making the playoffs...

[Dallas_Empire 0]

Hey, i don't need your propaganda, i'm giving your team props because the defense deserves it. However, I don't believe it will continue. the only consistency the cowboys have shown is that they consistently lose in december, and last time i looked at the calendar, well, it's mid december. If the Steelers defense can befuddle Rhomo the Ravens can just as easily. Despite the pats on the i'm handing out to your deserving defense, your team still isn't making the playoffs...

 

 

Dallas wins big on Saturday and goes on to win the Super Bowl.

[jgcrawfish 232]

Dallas wins big on Saturday and goes on to win the Super Bowl.

 

what's the significance of 12 and 18-36...

 

Hint: years since playoff victory and record in decembers recently...

 

Nevermores 30 - Cowpies 16

So it is written, so shall it be...

[sirensong 111]

I've been anything but strangely silent. Hell, I've been a chest thumping posting fool since then.

 

different posting mentality, then. when i make a very strong prediction about a specific aspect of the game, and am then proven decisively wrong, i tend to take my lumps immediately in the same thread. you might have noticed that in the thread in question, where the very first thing i mentioned was that i was wrong (the dallas D gave up 13 points, not the 9 i predicted). i didn't see you do the same, despite the fact that dallas completely dominated ben and company, which you implied was impossible.

 

i have indeed noticed your kudos to the dallas D lately, and have to respect that. however, i think your analysis for this week is once again emotive-based. short week, playing away should automatically temper any consideration of blowout. and this is the final game in texas stadium. and dallas believes that they are fighting for their playoff lives, rather than just being upset about a loss. these factors alone indicate a very tight, hard-fought game.

 

add to that the surging dallas defense--the pit O needed 4 turnovers just to manage 13 points, and a final turnover to score defensively (at home!). did you look at the field position chart? the steelers were working an incredibly short field all night, and were still ineffective. the ravens are slightly better overall, but at least pittsburgh can throw the ball when necessary. if you stop the run, you stop the baltimore offense. since phillips took over the defense, no one has run effectively on the cowboys. how did flacco fare against the steelers pass D? 30% completion rate, 115YD, 0TD, 2INT (compared to romo's 210/1/3 on the road). seems silly to presuppose that flacco will do significantly better against the same caliber pass rush, a resurgent newman (who can erase either bal WR), and a secondary that has finally had significant time playing together. frankly, there is a strong possibility that baltimore will not even see the end zone.

 

we can talk about the headline offensive players for dallas, but let's not forget the emergence of tashard choice (88Ru/150+ combined yards against the best defense in the league, and 91Ru/140+ combined yards against the 4th ranked run defense). if he ran wild on the steelers and the giants, why would you presuppose that baltimore can stop him? objectively, i mean--not a gut feeling or "ed reed is tough". real football analysis, based on matchups and schemes--that's what we're after here, not rah-rah stuff.

 

from the cowboys perspective:

 

baltimore has two choices when scheming for romo. they smell blood in the water, because romo is dinged. this seems to indicate that they will come hard for him. if this happens, dallas absolutely must make them pay to blitz. this means no max protect--they have to go to hot routes from the interior guys. OTOH, if bal can get pressure from their front, they have the option to sit back and wait for mistakes. this isn't a bad choice, because he has been more mistake-prone than usual lately, and his accuracy is certainly off--he's missing a lot of throws that he normally makes with ease. his reads are still generally good (the pit pick-6 was witten's mistake--he was open but turned the wrong way, and the 4th down play he just failed to look for the ball), but he's either pressing or has a physical problem.

 

baltimore has to scheme for choice, and dallas has to make effective use of him. this could be a very big game for bennett, as well. these are two key guys for dallas, because bal will have effective plans for dealing with witten and TO. getting the ball to choice and MB in space (screens and 2nd-level) will be vital in order to open up the TEs. by extension, it is a very important for romo to spread the ball around. if we see a stat line dominated by witten and TO, that will probably indicate a poor offensive showing. everyone needs to contribute. and most importanty, dallas must take their shots downfield. if they try to keep things too conservative, they run the risk of keeping baltimore in the game. phillips must show trust in the defense, and take calculated risks.

 

defensively, the game is simple--as with the pittsburgh game, dallas needs to stop the run. if flacco can beat the cowboys through the air, then so be it. i anticipate a heavy dose of run blitzes and very few twists/stunts. the cowboys will live or die depending on gap control. were it me, i'd go cover 1 and have newman shadow clayton everywhere--just like the washington game where he erased moss. one thing i don't know is this--is clayton an X (split end/weakside) or a Z (wingback/usually strongside)? that will dictate a lot of the coverage action. mason is a good WR that can do a lot of damage, but it seems like clayton is developing into the more dangerous of the two. usually in hybrid coverages, it is the weaker WR that gets manned and the zone rolls towards the stronger guy, but i'm not familiar enough with baltimore's offense to know how they are usually employed.

 

my prediction: if dallas stops the run and can establish any kind of offense, they win. if dallas goes up by 7 at any point, baltimore is in serious trouble. in order to win, baltimore must keep the score under 17s. if bal can get pressure with their front 4, and establish the run, then dallas is in very serious trouble. ultimately, though, i think baltimore must play error-free football. dallas can afford to take a few risks, but baltimore just doesn't have the offense to come back from negative plays or turnovers.

 

i think this will be a very hard-fought game. hard-nosed doesn't begin to describe it--a lot of training staff action, and both romo and flacco will be hurting on sunday. i see baltimore gaining 80-90 team yards on the ground, and romo putting up about 250 to a wide variety of receivers. final offensive output should look like dallas: 300 +-20, and baltimore: 250 +-20

 

i think dallas wins a tight one, but i don't want to be accused of being vague, so...

 

dal: 20

bal: 16

 

and as always, if i'm wrong, i'll be here (in this thread) to take my lumps.