Kurt Warner

[Snoopy 0]

I've been starting Warner all year (except for the bye obviously) but I am somewhat concerned that he might get benched since Arizona clinched the NFC west and has next to 0 chance of moving up the foodchain with the giants and panthers at 11-3 and the Vikes at 9-5 them at 8-6 and the vikes having the tiebreaker.

 

I am contemplating starting Matt Schaub instead of him, anyone want to talk me out of this? or alternatively anyone with me on this?

[TheBlade 3]

I have this same question with Cutler on the ready. The other thing that concerns me is the nasty weather it looks like they're expecting in NE on Sunday. It may be cold in Denver, but it doesn't look like nasty weather. Decisions, decisions, decisions...

[yostevo 0]

I would say Arizona is far from being a well oiled machine heading down the stretch to the playoffs and that offense needs to find some rhythm. He'll play until halfway through week 17 I'd imagine.

 

The weather is what worries me this week.

[stonewall 647]

Yes, I have been concerned about this also. He took a beating against MN last week and I wonder how much abuse they will allow him to take pre-playoff. As you mentioned, the weather is looking horrible in NE and a trip out east never helps matters either. Tough call. I have the options of Rodgers in Chicago (weather) or Hill in a dome at St. Louis. I, too, would be interested in any insight.

 

BTW, it is noteworthy that Warner has tossed only 1 TD pass per game in 4 out of his last five.

[FeelingMN 273]

I think Arizona is motivated to play well this week. They've played like crap recently and have the look of a 1 and done playoff team. I expect Warner to play in order to get the offense back on track. He could get yanked if the game is a blowout, and the NE D-line is teeing off on him. But I don't see that happening. If you look at the Fantasy S.O.S. on the front page, there aren't many defenses who've been as generous against the pass as NE. I'd expect similar numbers to the Carolina game.

 

As for the weather, unless they expect a few inches of snow I'd say it's a non-factor. Weather.com is forecasting snow showers, and last I looked there was only a 50% chance of that.

 

I'm sticking with Warner in my championship, because he's been pretty solid all year and I just don't trust Cutler.

[PATSSOX 22]

i grabbed schaub a couple of weeks ago just in case this happened. i dont see them sitting warner atleast this week. the offense has been not very good last couple of weeks and i cant see them going into playoffs like that. they need to play together and get it figured out.

 

as for this week only way i bench warner for schaub is if the weather, like someone already said, is terrible. this has all the making for a shoot out. the way both defenses have been playing and what both offenses are capable of doing it could be 45-42! best scenario for me and my fantasy is 45-42 patriots with warner having 4-5 td passes and my PATS winning. this would give me fantasy championship and PATS on way to playoff birth once JETS and BALTIMORE lose

[JayC_VB 0]

I have the same dilemma with Warner and Schaub. The other consideration for my situation is that we are a total points league, and it's coming down to me and one other guy, with me having a 15 point advantage going into our final week. One of his primary scorers is AJ, so if I play Schaub I'll be getting points anytime he does, although obviously not as many (4pts for PA TD vs. 6pt for RE TD). Schaub has outscored Warner in our league for the last 2 weeks (15 / 15 vs. 26 / 17), and I expect that to continue this week considering Warner is going across the country to play in the cold.

[IndyFan 2]

Weird that so many of us have Warner and Schaub. I am benching Warner for the first time this year. Schaub is hot and is playing Oakland who has been giving up a lot of points through the air recently. I don't expect Asomugha to shut down AJ but even if he does Walters will go off. Warner and the Cards have struggled on the East Coast and the weather will be a factor. Start Schaub with confidence.

[Jeff Garcia 8]

I thought the coach had said he will not rest players before the playoffs. He will also keep Warner in. I know I saw that in a thread here awhile back.

[The Hood 9]

I would say Arizona is far from being a well oiled machine heading down the stretch to the playoffs and that offense needs to find some rhythm. He'll play until halfway through week 17 I'd imagine.

 

The weather is what worries me this week.

[sanders 0]

Yeah I am seriously most likely going to bench Warner this week in the finals.

 

In the cold in Foxboro - at home the oline was gross last week - Warner could get hit a couple of times early and leave the game pretty easily.

[Captain Goomy Noomy Roo 50]

It is a definite possibility that Warner gets benched if Arizona gets a big lead going.

 

However, I don't see that happening this week against NE.

 

So it will be interesting with Warner this week... I got burned with Westy (see FU Andy Reid thread) but that is a whole different set of circumstances.

 

Arizona will more than likely be coming from behind and they will want Warner in there chuckin it.

 

 

Nuthin really to gain in the playoffs though... so could be second half good by Kurt... hello Leinart.

[rozniarek 0]

Same here only i have Cassell.When in doubt i go with the home team. But the one week i benched him was vs Carolina and got burned.Their coach did say he would play his starters the full season to keep them focused.With their struggles of late i would think he would keep them in even more. Regardless of their seeding they still need to go into the playoffs on a winning note.Im afraid of starting Cassell because they might try to run on them after seeing what the Viks did last week.$500 on the line and im as nervous as a ###### in church.

[mrgymrat 0]

Yes, seriously considering going to the backup. I have to play him in one league (not willing to play Favre) but can play Cassel in league 2 and Schaub in league 3. Thanks for the ride Kurt!

[cooolbreeze 0]

I'm surprised everyone is so quick to jump ship when it comes to Warner.

 

How many of these other QBs you are talking about have the potential to put up the type of numbers Warner does? None.

 

Has there even been any news about him sitting?? The only things I've read say that the starters are going to play.

 

I just don't see sitting him, he's taken me this far and I'm sticking with him!!!

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

I think Arizona is motivated to play well this week. They've played like crap recently and have the look of a 1 and done playoff team. I expect Warner to play in order to get the offense back on track. He could get yanked if the game is a blowout, and the NE D-line is teeing off on him. But I don't see that happening.

 

 

the offense has been not very good last couple of weeks and i cant see them going into playoffs like that. they need to play together and get it figured out.

 

this has all the making for a shoot out. the way both defenses have been playing and what both offenses are capable of doing it could be 45-42! best scenario for me and my fantasy is 45-42 patriots with warner having 4-5 td passes and my PATS winning.

 

 

How many of these other QBs you are talking about have the potential to put up the type of numbers Warner does? None.

 

I just don't see sitting him, he's taken me this far and I'm sticking with him!!!

 

 

These three guys know the score. Good posts gentlemen.

 

Arizona HAS to get back in synch and as PATSSOX pointed out, NE pass def is NOT scary. Weather may be a factor but short of howling wind disrupting the throws, Warner is still Warner and STILL has the best WR trio playing. You'd look at last week as a letdown vs Minny but he STILL got 22 points. The upside is just too great with the risk really being low. We know Arizona is pretty decent against the run (other than vs Minny) so Cassel will be throwing a ton to Welker, Moss, etc and they will score. It could be a high scoring affair and you just HAVE to play Warner. He's about as close to money this week as anyone.

[ben4uf 0]

Very funny how many of us have Warner and Schaub. I too have seriously been contemplating benching Warner for the Championship game in favor of Schaub; I also have AJ so anything to him would be huge.

 

Pros for Warner

He has taken me all this way and has 1+ TD in every game

He has the best WR duo in the league

Az defense not stopping much so they have to keep airing it out

 

Cons for Warner

Travelling cross country east to NE is never good

Weather conditions in NE not promising

AZ not playing all that great of late

chance of getting benched if AZ up a lot or playing poorly

chance of injury with poor play of O-line

 

And theres probably more...ah its just that "dont bench your studs" mentality that makes it tough to sit Warner...but almost all signs point in favor of putting Schaub in there.

[mrgymrat 0]

I think weather, traveling east and the fact that the Cards haven't been playing well doesn't bode well for AZ. If the game was out west I'd be rolling with Kurt. It seems as though people have figured out how to defense the pass vs the Cards and since they are so one dimensional they have struggled.

 

Thanks for the ride Kurt but I really think they are a one and done playoff team. Just because we all think they should be motivated for the game doesn't mean they can change the fact that they can't run the ball. I would think the Pats are motivated as well. at home and despite a beatup DST will be prepared for the AZ passing game.

 

If you believe playing the matchups this one has "Danger Will Robinson" written all over it. There has to be a creampuff matchup other than this one. Warner has cost me two playoff teams in the past two weeks with his average play. Gotta seriously look at Schaub this week.

[Dallas_Empire 0]

Warner should do well enough to not cost you a win. Ride him out! In Kurt we trust!

[Ras66not99 0]

the weather is looking horrible in NE and a trip out east never helps matters either. Tough call. I have the options of Rodgers in Chicago (weather) or Hill in a dome at St. Louis. I, too, would be interested in any insight.

 

BTW, it is noteworthy that Warner has tossed only 1 TD pass per game in 4 out of his last five.

I'm in the same boat except I have Fitzpatrick and Shaun Hill... I'm going to start Warner pending the weather.... I mean if it's snow showers and stuff I'm sticking with him but if it's a big Ice Storm, with 25 MPH winds and all this other junk i've been hearing then I think I'm going to roll the dice with Shaun Hill in my Dynasty Bowl...

 

Christ the fantasy playoffs suck

[sanders 0]

Warner took a LOT of shots last week. It's going to be cold in Foxboro and Warner is going to get hit a lot this week - the book is out on the Cards - their oline couldn't block anyone last week - NE will be blitzing everyone.

 

I picked up Bulger and inserted him as my starter - hes at home against SF - much better matchup.

 

That being said I might chicken out and still go with Warner. This is one of those situations whether you kick yourself from not going with your guy or praise yourself for being such a good GM.

 

In the Championship game no less.

 

BAH! What to do!?!?!?

[bytheway 1]

For me, the deciding factors not to start Warner are the projected poor weather, AZ's problems playing on the East Coast, and the recent mediocre play of AZ in general of late.

 

I am fortunate to be able to start Brees, which of course makes the decision quite a bit easier than for most.

[idiotekniQues 0]

im wondering about benching cutler for shaun hill vs the rams

[bjsteel 34]

I have Warner, Schaub and Hill...sitting Warner but stuck between Schaub and Hill. I'll probably go with Schaub but Hill vs St Louis looks enticing...

[idiotekniQues 0]

i dont have warner, but thinking of benching fitzy in both my bowl games.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

For those betting Warner will be a dud or the weather will shut the passing game down, pick up NE DEF and play them. In for a penny, in for a pound.

[murf74 461]

thinking of going Cassel over Warner, I would imagine both will get similar numbers, but Warner has a better chance of struggling.

[the spanker 28]

You guys are cracking me up...NE D Fing SUCKS!!! The sorry as RAIDERS scored 26 points against that pathetic injury beat up NE D.

 

There is no way I'm sitting Warner unless I hear more about the weather and we have days before we really know how it's going to turn out.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

thinking of going Cassel over Warner, I would imagine both will get similar numbers, but Warner has a better chance of struggling.

 

Ask yourself this murf; 'does Arizona have the capability to run the ball?' If you answer no to this, Arizona is a one dimensional team and Warner will get his. Cassel should be a good play too but Cards HAVE to throw.

[paripona 3]

I have Schaub and Warner. Started Warner all year except two weeks. No way I'm starting Warner now though. I'm counting my lucky stars he did so well but I don't and never have trusted him. I drafter Schaub early and expected him to be a stud. Now he better be a stud to win my championship for me!

[DamageIncVacc 6]

Warner and Schabb owner here also. Warner is my starter UNLESSone or both of these two things happen. one Boldin does not play (he is questionable) and 2 The weather is bad. Now snow flurries and a little snow isnt a major issue. I still remember sitting Jerry Porter a few years ago in like 8 inches of Denver snow and he went off as WR know when there are going to cut and have big games ( Champ Baily kept falling in the snow trying to cut like Porter) . Now blizzard conditions ( snow and wind) and Warner sees the bench.

[greggmoh 0]

I'm trying to decide between Warner and Garrard.

 

I don't know why, but I just have a gut feeling telling me to start Garrard tonight vs Indy.

[RasKai 0]

I'm trying to decide between Warner and Garrard.

 

I don't know why, but I just have a gut feeling telling me to start Garrard tonight vs Indy.

 

I don't know if I would follow that Gut feeling. I'd let the forecast play out a little more before even thinking of doing that. If Boldin plays against that Patriots secondary in decent weather, watch out. Colts Pass D is decent, Rush D...not so much.

[greggmoh 0]

I don't know if I would follow that Gut feeling. I'd let the forecast play out a little more before even thinking of doing that. If Boldin plays against that Patriots secondary in decent weather, watch out. Colts Pass D is decent, Rush D...not so much.

 

 

I know, it just sucks having to make the decision today.

 

 

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[Nomad99 742]

How many of these other QBs you are talking about have the potential to put up the type of numbers Warner does? None.

 

 

Wrong....Schaubb has the ability to put up Warner like #'s & actually has a better match-up

[Mack Daddy 0]

Wow, it's nice to see that I'm not the only one with the Schaub / Warner decision. Bascially two factors for me are 1) Boldin's status, which right now looks like he'll be out and 2) Weather, which from what I'm hearing could be nasty in the Boston area with snow/freezing rain. Schaub is looking more and more who'll I'll be rolling with in my championship game. And Wayne FINALLY found paydirt form me in the Super Bowl!!!!

[TheBlade 3]

I'm trying to decide between Warner and Garrard.

 

I don't know why, but I just have a gut feeling telling me to start Garrard tonight vs Indy.

Wow, time to play the lottery. I hope you started Garrard after all of that because Warner is going to have to have a totally studly game to match or beat the numbers put up tonight by Garrard.

[hawk82 0]

Cutler against Buffalo or Warner?

[PackYourNut 47]

GULP! Orlovsky over Warner!!!

[BadMojo11 0]

GULP! Orlovsky over Warner!!!

 

HaHa I have the same dilemma