throttlers 0 Posted May 28, 2009 Well, the rookie draft post seemed to draw interst and helped me think things through so I figured I'd post this one as well. This is a new 14 team dynasty league with IDP. This is a complete draft and there will not be a seperate rookie draft. Here are a couple things about the scoring. It's PPR. Passing TDs are 4pts for 1-4 TDs but jump to 6 pts at #5. Punt return yards count for .05 pts per yard and kick return yards count for .025pts per yard. Rushing yards are .1 pt per yard. Passing yards are .05pts per yard. Everything else is pretty standard. With being a dynasty and having IDP the draft is 45 rounds. I'm not going to post all 45 rounds lol. I will post as long as there seems to be interest or until most of the starting offensive players are gone. Starting lineup 20 players: QBs: 1 RBs: 1-3 WRs: 3-5 TEs: 1-3 PKs: 1 DTs: 1-3 DEs: 1-3 LBs: 2-4 CB: 1-3 Ss: 1-3 1.1 ADP 1.2 MJD - me 1.3 Turner 1.4 Forte 1.5 CJ3 1.6 Calvin 1.7 S-Jax 1.8 Fitz 1.9 AJ 1.10 Jennings 1.11 Brees 1.12 Moreno 1.13 Slaton - me 1.14 Wayne 2.1 R, White 2.2 DeAngelo 2.3 Westy 2.4 R. Moss 2.5 Gore 2.6 S.Smith 2.7 K.Smith 2.8 Barber 2.9 Bowe 2.10 Colston 2.11 Boldin 2.12 Portis 2.13 Welker 2.14 Rodgers 3.1 Housh 3.2 Jacobs - me, but traded for picks 3.14 and 4.1 3.3 Marshall 3.4 Brady 3.5 P. Manning 3.6 Bush 3.7 LT 3.8 TO 3.9 P. Willis 3.10 Ruud 3.11 V.Jackson 3.12 McFadden 3.13 D. Jackson 3.14 E.Royal - me 4.1 J. Witten - me 4.2 Gates 4.3 B. Edwards 4.4 Lynch 4.5 A. Gonzales 4.6 Stewart 4.7 Ocho Cinco 4.8 Beason 4.9 R. Williams 4.10 Ryan 4.11 D'Qwell Jackson 4.12 Crabtree 4.13 Avery 4.14 S.Holmes 5.1 Bryant 5.2 Vilma 5.3 T. Gonzales 5.4 Wells 5.5 Evans 5.6 Grant 5.7 Maclin 5.8 Berrian 5.9 D. Clark 5.10 Nicks 5.11 Ginn Jr. 5.12 L.Moore 5.13 P.Thomas 5.14 Cutler 6.1 Morrison 6.2 D. Brown 6.3 Mayo 6.4 Walter 6.5 Romo 6.6 Cotchery 6.7 Cassell 6.8 Harvin 6.9 Ryans 6.10 Mendenhall 6.11 Morrison 6.12 Rivers 6.13 - Palmer - me 6.14 McNabb 7.1 Santana Moss 7.2 - Breaston - me 7.3 Hester 7.4 J. Allen 7.5 Winslow 7.6 McCoy 7.7 Briggs 7.8 J. Harrison 7.9 Heyward-Bey 7.10 Briggs 7.11 R. Rice 7.12 D. Driver 7.13 Coles 7.14 F.Jones 8.1 DJ Williams 8.2 Dansby 8.3 Curry 8.4 Olsen 8.6 M. Clayton 8.7 Tuck 8.8 M.Williams 8.9 Daniels, 8.10 Ward 8.11 Austin 8.12 Umenyiora 8.13 - S.Greene - me 8.14 Lofton 9.1 Lauranaitis 9.2 - Robiskie 9.3 Cooley 9.4 S. Bradley 9.5 LJ 9.6 Pusluszny 9.7 Stafford 9.8 Addai - me - I traded up when I saw Addai still hanging around this late 9.9 Holt 9.10 K. Rivers 9.11 Timmons 9.12 S. Cooper 9.13 T. Cole 9.14 Warner 10.1 Big Ben 10.2 T. Jones 10.3 Maualuga 10.4 Tatupu 10.5 Bess 10.6 Sims 10.7 Weddle 10.8 Carlson 10.9 Greenway 10.10 Durant 10.11 S.Smith (NYG) 10.12 Peppers 10.13 Stafford 10.14 Ward 11.1 Woodley 11.2 Brackett 11.3 Hurd 11.4 K. Curtis 11.5 OTC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
throttlers 0 Posted May 28, 2009 I have the 2nd and the 13th overall picks. I do not have a 2nd round pick. I traded my 2nd rounder and a pick next year for pick 1.13. I am assuming ADP will go #1 and I am leaning hard towards MJD at 2. I like Forte a lot also, but have a hard time taking him quite that high. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 587 Posted May 29, 2009 I have the 2nd and the 13th overall picks. I do not have a 2nd round pick. I traded my 2nd rounder and a pick next year for pick 1.13. I am assuming ADP will go #1 and I am leaning hard towards MJD at 2. I like Forte a lot also, but have a hard time taking him quite that high. There is a decent chance ADP will go #1 but that is not certain. He only got 20 receptions in each of the last two years. Somebody may choose to take someone like MJD, or Moss ahead of him. (Believe me when I say I've seen stranger things happen) At least at #2 you're going to get a really good player. I really cant believe the other guy traded out of the first round for you on this. It's more important to have a high pick in the initial draft as these are the players that will all be keepers. either way, I guess that is his choice. Good luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
throttlers 0 Posted May 30, 2009 Draft started. I took MJD at 1.2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted May 30, 2009 good pick. youll have alot of ppl telling you forte and he could very well be better but MJD is young enough and Forte despite being great last year needs to show he can do it again. either would have been a fine pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted May 30, 2009 Man, I remember my first fantasy football season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
throttlers 0 Posted May 30, 2009 At 1.13 I considerd DeAngelo and Gore, but went with youth in Slaton. With MJD and Slaton, I will probably look to WR at 3.2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quickolas1 80 Posted May 30, 2009 At 1.13 I considerd DeAngelo and Gore, but went with youth in Slaton. With MJD and Slaton, I will probably look to WR at 3.2. i think you'll be regretting that choice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted May 30, 2009 At 1.13 I considerd DeAngelo and Gore, but went with youth in Slaton. With MJD and Slaton, I will probably look to WR at 3.2. i still don't totally understand D-will falling so low after leading RB's in PPR's last year... and he is pretty young himself.. I guess JStew scares people off.... Slaton was a solid pick but I may have gone williams there... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nordwave 2 Posted May 30, 2009 i still don't totally understand D-will falling so low after leading RB's in PPR's last year... and he is pretty young himself.. I guess JStew scares people off.... Slaton was a solid pick but I may have gone williams there... Moreno went in the first round of this draft, so maybe it shouldn't be looked at as a reflection of how a typical draft would go. Plus, it's about 3 months away before "most" drafts take place. DeAngelo will go in the first round in the majority of drafts. Unless he breaks an ankle between now and then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted May 30, 2009 Moreno went in the first round of this draft, so maybe it shouldn't be looked at as a reflection of how a typical draft would go.Plus, it's about 3 months away before "most" drafts take place. DeAngelo will go in the first round in the majority of drafts. Unless he breaks an ankle between now and then. i did a quick double take on a few of the picks but then i realized its a dynasty so when you see greg jennings and roddy white going above randy moss, thats just moss being old. Moreno is too high yeah, but i have never played in a dynasty of my own so i really can't judge too much in terms of people paying for youth and potential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted May 30, 2009 keep this updated as it nears your pick. I think I would be hoping for one of Colston/Boldin/Marshall/VJackson/Braylon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
throttlers 0 Posted May 30, 2009 i still don't totally understand D-will falling so low after leading RB's in PPR's last year... and he is pretty young himself.. I guess JStew scares people off.... Slaton was a solid pick but I may have gone williams there... I had my finger on the button aboput to pick D-Will then changed and picked Slaton. I may regret it, but I think either is a solid choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
throttlers 0 Posted May 31, 2009 I'm on the clock again. I am actually thinking of taking a 3rd RB. I'm not big on Marshall. I like Edwards, but I think this is a little high to take him. Strictly going best player available I think I have to look at LT, Jacobs, Bush or maybe Brady. I like some of the rookie WRs. WR will end up being my weak spot, but I can counter that by taking some of the top IDP players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted May 31, 2009 I'm on the clock again. I am actually thinking of taking a 3rd RB. I'm not big on Marshall. I like Edwards, but I think this is a little high to take him. Strictly going best player available I think I have to look at LT, Jacobs, Bush or maybe Brady. I like some of the rookie WRs. WR will end up being my weak spot, but I can counter that by taking some of the top IDP players. thats tough. I personally feel LT is gonna be a stud again this yr but he is older... but 3.2 might be a nice spot for him. Brady is also another possibility but id almost hold off and grab a younger up and coming QB later like a Rivers take BPA on your board... all u can do i guess. can u start 3 backs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
throttlers 0 Posted May 31, 2009 thats tough. I personally feel LT is gonna be a stud again this yr but he is older... but 3.2 might be a nice spot for him. Brady is also another possibility but id almost hold off and grab a younger up and coming QB later like a Rivers take BPA on your board... all u can do i guess. can u start 3 backs? Yes I can start 3 backs. I took Jacobs. I just couldn;t bring myself to draft Marsahall who is the only WR I was giving serious consideration at this spot. I thought about Brady, but in the end went with another potential top 10 RB. MJD, Slaton and Jacobs will be a nice trio of starting backs every week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted May 31, 2009 Yes I can start 3 backs. I took Jacobs. I just couldn;t bring myself to draft Marsahall who is the only WR I was giving serious consideration at this spot. I thought about Brady, but in the end went with another potential top 10 RB. MJD, Slaton and Jacobs will be a nice trio of starting backs every week. i dislike jacobs but with starting 3 backs i like the position selection..... i actually wulda gone with LT tho. i know i know hes 30 and done.... i think he has 2-3 yrs left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devildog 0 Posted May 31, 2009 The top WRs were a bargain in a ppr league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
throttlers 0 Posted June 1, 2009 If the run starts on IDP after 2 LBs going, I might still have a decent WR to look at in the 4th. Edwards, Royal, Coles, Hester, Ocho Cinco (yeah I know), Avery, San. Moss are still on the board. Plus a couple of rookies WRs might be worth a look. If all those WRs go, then I can likely still get a couple of top IDPs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
throttlers 0 Posted June 1, 2009 Recent developement. I won't bore you with all the details, but basically I traded away Jacobs and now have picks 3.14 and 4.1 instead of 4.13. I need at least 1 WR, maybe 2. I am either looking at 2 WRs (probably Braylon and Royal or a WR and a LB like Beason or a WR and TE, probably Witten. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nordwave 2 Posted June 1, 2009 Recent developement. I won't bore you with all the details, but basically I traded away Jacobs and now have picks 3.14 and 4.1 instead of 4.13. I need at least 1 WR, maybe 2. I am either looking at 2 WRs (probably Braylon and Royal or a WR and a LB like Beason or a WR and TE, probably Witten. I like Anthony Gonzalez this year. Gonzalez and Witten if it were me. Wait on your IDP selections. There isn't a lot of difference, FF points-wise, between a Tier 2 Linebacker and a Tier 4 or 5. Oh, and for what it is worth - in our league last year, Return Yards were counted for all players, which I think you said is what your league is doing too right? Or is it just IDP players who get Return Yards counted? Anyway, with that taken into account, Johnnie Lee Higgins was the #8 WR overall in our league last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IAMWood 6 Posted June 1, 2009 Johnnie Lee Higgins was the #8 WR overall in our league last year. Who? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
throttlers 0 Posted June 2, 2009 I like Higgins, but a little early in the draft for him. I ended up taking E. Royal because I think he will be huge in PPR this year and is one of the better long term prospects even with Orton at QB. I also took Witten to be on the front end of the TE run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
throttlers 0 Posted June 2, 2009 I haven't quite finished updating the drafted players yet, but I am on the clock. I'll update shortly after this post. After I pick there are 2 picks before I pick again. So far I have. QB - none RB - MJD, Slaton WR - E. Royal TE - Witten IDP - none Players I am considering at each position: QBs - The list of viable starters is getting short Palmer - like him to bounce back Eli - could do better, could do worse McNabb - best days are behind him Warner - Definitely a short-term pick RBs - I have 2 RBs to only 1 WR, but some good value here Addai - Coming off a bad year, but could be a steal if he rebounds Ward - Potential top 10 but not for too many years T.Jones - Not thrilled with him, but nice upside for a RB3 F.Jones - love this kid, but is it too early? L.McCoy - Really close to pulling the trigger on this kid right now Sproles - meh WRs - only 1 so a need pick Santana Moss - could have a worse WR2 Breaston - Doesn't look like Boldin is going anywhere, but great offense Coles - Possibly Palmer's new go to guy? Hester - good things coming out of camp and has Cutler now Robiskie - Too early? Britt - see above LBs - number of good ones available here that will likely be gone when it gets back around to me. However, this board sems anti-idp. I don;t expect any advice of taking one of these here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted June 2, 2009 Palmer is the no brainer at QB. even if he doesn;t put up pre injury numbers THIS year, he is young and has been a stud in the past so i see no reason not to snap him up in a dynasty. Cincy made the right moves to help the o-line, keep a solid RB, replace Housh in some capacity with Coles.... out of the RB's i don't like any of them a ton. I understand Addai could bounce back but he could also end up just being a wasted pick. OR i would look at Breaston or Hester.. both young with upsdie. if you could go Palmer and then nab one of those 2 WR's the next pick you would be lookin good. IDP- i dont have much experience here but it generally seems that good IDP's pop up every year off the WW even. Alot of it depends on the defense they are in and the position they play. I can't imagine wanting a 3-4 end... but i would assume pass rushing ends, tackling machine MLB's and safeties are all golden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quickolas1 80 Posted June 3, 2009 am i reading this correctly... start 1 de, 2 lb, 1 cb, 1 s and 2 more at any position? i've done dynasty and idp and some of the picks in this draft make me seriously scratch my head the point differential between top LB's and middle tier LB's is very minimal compared to RBs and WRs. yet i see people have taken LB's starting in round 3? mcnabb and palmer both look like good choices to me. i wouldn't worry about 5 years from now, especially at the QB position. the talent at WR has also dropped off a cliff so i'd look hard and long at WR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted June 3, 2009 am i reading this correctly... start 1 de, 2 lb, 1 cb, 1 s and 2 more at any position? i've done dynasty and idp and some of the picks in this draft make me seriously scratch my head the point differential between top LB's and middle tier LB's is very minimal compared to RBs and WRs. yet i see people have taken LB's starting in round 3? mcnabb and palmer both look like good choices to me. i wouldn't worry about 5 years from now, especially at the QB position. the talent at WR has also dropped off a cliff so i'd look hard and long at WR. the only reason i suggested Palmer over McNabb is that McNabb has the very real threat of bieng replaced and or sent to a worse team if he falters at all this season. Plus he is older. Remember last year when he was benched? Everyone thought he was done. He bounced back and the team added some nice weapons, but they do already have his replacement on the team. Also for Throttle - definately wait on the IDP's. I'll try and come up with a list of guys who will probably slip but should produce. David Harris of the Jets comes to mind immdiately. He was injured last year but had a great rookie year. I expect big things from him this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
throttlers 0 Posted June 3, 2009 Not sure how long I will keep updating this. I guess as long as people still take an interest. Like I said, it's 45 rounds though. 4 more picks before I pick, then 2 picks before I pick again. Here is my updated team. I have all offensicve players so far. QB - Palmer RB - MJD, Slaton WR - E.Royal, Breaston TE - Witten Here is what I consider best available for my 2 upcoming picks sorted by position: QB - Warner (good for a year or 2), Eli, Flacco, and the rooks Stafford, Sanchez and Freeman still on the board. RB - Addai(wow he has fallen), Ward, T.Jones, FWP, LJ, Hightower, Lewis and some rooks: Greene, J.Davis, Scott, Peerman WR - Not much here: Holt, Mason, Miles, S.Smith(NYG), Plaxico on the board of course, Hixon. Still some good rookies: Britt, Robiskie, Tate, M.Thomas, Iglesias. TE - Cooley, Daniels, Keller and all the rooks on the board IDP LB - Merriman, Pusluszny, Lofton, EJ Henderson, Urlacher, Lewis, B.James, Bradley, Rivers, Hawk, Scott and some good rooks:Lauranaitis, Maualuga, Cushing, Matthews DE - M.Williams, Umenyiora, Suggs, Cole, Peppers, Mathis, Adams, and all the rooks on the board: Ayers, Orakpo, Maybin, English, E,. Brown Not taking any IDP secondary players yet as the turnover for the top scorers is so big every year. Leaning towards a RB3 with one pick, maybe Ward or Greene. Addai is tempting this far down also. I was hoping F.Jones would slip top me her but he went at 7.14. With the other pick, I am leaning towards either one of the rookie WRs, a LB (Merriman, Henderson, Lauraniatis or Cushing) or M.Williams if he is on the board. Since this post, M.Williams and Daniels have ben taken out of the players I listed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,171 Posted June 3, 2009 i think you have to look at addai, ward, LJ honestly at this spot i think you gotta go addai even if he is there. I don't even like him but i suppose the value is too great. as WR.. holt prolly has a couple yrs left.... Britt or Robiskie would also be good choices. Osi seems like a good IDP guy otherwise id prolly wait. How does your league score IDP's? tackles, sacks, ints, fumbles? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
throttlers 0 Posted June 3, 2009 Went with Greene over Addai. I love this kids upside and he likely wouldn't make it back to me after these 2 picks. Waiting on someone else to make a pick to make the 2nd one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
throttlers 0 Posted June 3, 2009 I ended up trading up to get Addai. I still have no IDP and no picks in rounds 10 and 11 do to trades. My roster through 9 rounds (or 11 I guess) now looks like this: QB - Palmer RB -MJD, Slaton, Greene, Addai WR - E.Royal, Breaston, Robiskie TE - Witten I'm really going to have to start addressing IDP soon as well as a backup QB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IAMWood 6 Posted June 3, 2009 Having 2 serviceble QBs is a value in dynasty. I would look long there if there is a decent starter left on the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
throttlers 0 Posted June 3, 2009 Having 2 serviceble QBs is a value in dynasty. I would look long there if there is a decent starter left on the board. A lot will depend on who is left to me by the time my next pick rolls around at the end of round 12. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 587 Posted June 3, 2009 Nice pickup on Addai. I figure he hasnt lost his job yet, so you made a good gamble at this point in the draft in picking him up. also: it is a Dynasty league. If Addai loses his job in Indy, he could become a starter elsewhere. To me, he is well worth an 9th rd pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
throttlers 0 Posted June 7, 2009 This draft is still ongoing. Like I said, it's 45 rounds. I am not going to update every pick, but I am going to list my team as of now and ask for a few suggestions for my next couple of picks. QB - Palmer, Freeman RB - MJD, Slaton, Greene, Addai WR - E.Royal, Breaston, Robiskie, J.Jones TE - Witten LB - Cushing, Matthews DE - J.Long, English DT - Raji I have 5 picks ahead of me then 2 picks before I pick again. We are in round 20 out of 45. I only have 16 players do to some trades. Here are the players I consider the best availabel at ewach position. I am open to any other sleepers you think may not have ben drafted. QB - Pennington, Collins, Russell, Henne, Culpepper, Vick (not really looking for a QB here. I like C-Pep as a sleeper this year, but cna be had later.) RB - Hightower, J.Davis, Peerman, Gartell, Coffee, A.Brown(NYG) WR Crayton, Tate, M.Thomas, Massaquoi, Sweed, Stuckey, Barden, Clowney, Branch, Knox, D.Henderson (strongly considering Crayton or Tate with next pick) TE - Nelson, Beckum, Fassano, Cook, Ingram, Watson (strongly considering Nelson with my next pick or 2), LB - Farrior, Levy, Phillips, Diles Gholston, Hill, Crowell, Ingram (not much left and I only have 2. need some good sleper input for the later rounds) DE - Kiwanuka, Dockett Maybin, A.Brown, Tapp, R.Edwards, Freeney, E.Brown (can probably get one of these later) DT - Stroud, Jenkins, Dorsey (ehh, after the first few a DT is a DT and we only have to start 1) CB - Rodgers-Cromartie, Finnegan, D.Hall, C.Griggin, Bailey, M.Jenkins (waited on thes because turn over for top secondary players is huge year to year, again will need some late slepers) S - E.Reed, B. Sanders, Chung, M.Mitchell, W.Moore, Landry, Mikell(good talent on the board and don't have one yet. may consider Reed, Sanders or Chung) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites