unckeyherb 2 Posted July 17, 2009 I'm in a 12 team 2 man keeper league. Standard scoring, 6 pts for all TD's, .5 PPR I am planning on keeping Andre and Moss. I have an offer of Slaton for my 3rd round pick, or ADP for my first round pick (which is first overall.) The top +/- 24 players will be off the board obviously, so I could theoretically go with Andre and Slaton and then take Moss with the first pick in the draft, or I could give up that pick and take ADP and Andre. One thing that is possible is that the guy with those two players also has Fitz. So if I do nothing and he doesn't make trades, I could grab Fitz in the first round. What would you do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewburtx8 67 Posted July 17, 2009 I'm in a 12 team 2 man keeper league. Standard scoring, 6 pts for all TD's, .5 PPRI am planning on keeping Andre and Moss. I have an offer of Slaton for my 3rd round pick, or ADP for my first round pick (which is first overall.) The top +/- 24 players will be off the board obviously, so I could theoretically go with Andre and Slaton and then take Moss with the first pick in the draft, or I could give up that pick and take ADP and Andre. One thing that is possible is that the guy with those two players also has Fitz. So if I do nothing and he doesn't make trades, I could grab Fitz in the first round. What would you do? Trade Slaton in a heartbeat for the 3rd round pick. IMO, Slaton is a first round pick in leagues that give points for receptions, even if its only half a point. I think Slaton could be in the 1600+ total yard, 10 TD, 50+ catch range. Andre, Slaton, and Moss would be a hell of a start. I also personally don't think ADP should go first overall in point per reception. Id rank MJD ahead of him. In full point per reception Id probably rank SJax, Forte, and maybe even CJ4 ahead of him. But in this format he is probably top 2 still. BUT I think Slaton for a 3rd is better value than ADP for first overall. AJ, Slaton, Moss is probably a better combo than AJ, ADP, and whoever you could take in the 2nd round (which isn't until 24th overall). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
We Tigers 71 Posted July 17, 2009 What he said. Three guys with first round ADPs instead of two is better in my mind. I love Slaton in any PPR format, and since you can still get whichever WR you don't keep, you don't lose much at all. You should only be concerned if you have questions about the Houston offense, which I don't think you need to worry about with these two guys. Any opportunity to get Peterson in a keeper has to be considered, but I prefer the cost of the Slaton deal for you in terms of winning this year. If your keepers are totally unrestricted, i.e. you can keep anyone for 3 seasons, 5 seasons, 10 seasons, whatever, then give Peterson a thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unckeyherb 2 Posted July 17, 2009 What he said. Three guys with first round ADPs instead of two is better in my mind. I love Slaton in any PPR format, and since you can still get whichever WR you don't keep, you don't lose much at all. You should only be concerned if you have questions about the Houston offense, which I don't think you need to worry about with these two guys. Any opportunity to get Peterson in a keeper has to be considered, but I prefer the cost of the Slaton deal for you in terms of winning this year. If your keepers are totally unrestricted, i.e. you can keep anyone for 3 seasons, 5 seasons, 10 seasons, whatever, then give Peterson a thought. thats my only thought. I could theoretically have the #1WR and #1RB as keepers for as long as I want. That being said, I think that Slaton for my third provides the most value, so I think I will try making that trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted July 17, 2009 I'd make the ADP deal. Opportunities to get a player like ADP don't come along often. You can carry ADP and Andre/Moss for the next 5 years. You will go into every single season with the first or second best RB and WR in the league. That's not a bad position to be in! Please see mine... http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=345656 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrgymrat 0 Posted July 17, 2009 Yeah, I too would make the ADP trade. He's too good to not eventually find the endzone on a regular basis. ADP, Moss, & Andre are a good start. Good luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 753 Posted July 17, 2009 I'm in a 12 team 2 man keeper league. Standard scoring, 6 pts for all TD's, .5 PPRI am planning on keeping Andre and Moss. I have an offer of Slaton for my 3rd round pick, or ADP for my first round pick (which is first overall.) The top +/- 24 players will be off the board obviously, so I could theoretically go with Andre and Slaton and then take Moss with the first pick in the draft, or I could give up that pick and take ADP and Andre. One thing that is possible is that the guy with those two players also has Fitz. So if I do nothing and he doesn't make trades, I could grab Fitz in the first round. What would you do? Slaton for a 3rd is an amazing deal in terms of value. ADP deal is also really good, but a move like this is really costing you two players instead of one because you can still only keep 2 and wont have a first round pick. If you make the move for ADP, make it knowing that this next year will be a bit of a writeoff unless a lot of your late round picks pan out. Personally, I'd make the Slaton deal because in a PPR format he's not that far behind ADP as he would be in a regular format and the cost is somewhat minimal and you can still select a great player with the #1 overall pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewburtx8 67 Posted July 17, 2009 Yeah, I too would make the ADP trade. He's too good to not eventually find the endzone on a regular basis. ADP, Moss, & Andre are a good start. Good luck Well he wouldn't get ADP, Andre, AND Moss. He can only keep two players, so it would be ADP and Andre, BUT he loses his first round pick in trading for ADP. So he wouldn't pick until the 24th overall pick, which is like the 48th pick when you factor in all the keeper selections. If he trades a 3rd pick for Slaton, he can keep Slaton and Andre BUT then also still have his first overall pick to take Moss or Fitzgerald or the top player available. Its much better in my opinion to have 3 top 15 players over only having 2. I know there is a HUGE love affair for ADP, but in PPR formats, he simply is just grouped with a bunch of other high end RB's. He does not catch many passes. You can pretty much count on 20 catches from him. BUT there are plenty of RB's that can get you 50-60 receptions, and Steve Slaton is one of them. Its hard for him to make up that ground with TD's. The yards aren't a huge factor because the pass catching backs total yards with receiving are often close to ADP's rush yards. This isn't quite as big of a thing in a HALF point per reception league, but if you look at last years numbers in this format, ADP had 259 points while Slaton had 251. Take in to account that Slaton wasn't the starter early in the season and had the rookie learning curve, and I'd say he was a more productive fantasy back than Peterson in this format, especially late in the season where it matters most. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted July 17, 2009 Its much better in my opinion to have 3 top 15 players over only having 2. This. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites