Do you want to see some of the worst officiating?

[redtodd 7]

God awful gifts to the Colts.

 

They just a free 43 yards off one of the worst pass interference calls I have ever seen.

 

They did not count a TD by Andre Johnson in the end zone which he obvious had possession (TD became a FG).

 

They called a BS unnecessary roughness on the 1st Manning INT that made the Texans get the ball on the 40 instead of the 10 (got a FG instead of a possible TD).

 

That 43 yard Pass Interference call was the wrost though. Absolutely embarrassing and the refs should be fired.

[WhiteWonder 2,734]

not watching the game but even before opening the thread I assumed you would be talking about good calls going the Colts way.

 

how did i know?

 

lucky guess

[redtodd 7]

not watching the game but even before opening the thread I assumed you would be talking about good calls going the Colts way.

 

how did i know?

 

lucky guess

 

Apparently you have watched a lot of Colts games before.

[Reality 3,121]

not watching the game but even before opening the thread I assumed you would be talking about good calls going the Colts way.

 

how did i know?

 

lucky guess

 

This

 

[billmatic 0]

Didn't see the PI call, but the AJ non-TD and Peyton roughing calls were correct. Every time you hit a QB in the face, it's a penalty. It's been this way all year, and there's been much weaker ones than that.

[WhiteWonder 2,734]

Didn't see the PI call, but the AJ non-TD and Peyton roughing calls were correct. Every time you hit a QB in the face, it's a penalty. It's been this way all year, and there's been much weaker ones than that.

 

 

Brady fans especially should know this.

[redtodd 7]

Didn't see the PI call, but the AJ non-TD and Peyton roughing calls were correct. Every time you hit a QB in the face, it's a penalty. It's been this way all year, and there's been much weaker ones than that.

 

The hand to face definitely was right. Not the AJ TD.

 

The pass interference calls are what tweak me because you are not allowed to effectly cover the Colts WR's. If you are near them and it is incomplete, there is a good chance that it will be called. Expecially if it is a long play. It happens too many times.

[redtodd 7]

 

Brady fans especially should know this.

 

What is funny is when one call goes for the Patriots (borderline roughing the passer on Brady against the Ravens), there are a ton of threads on it and mention in the media. Awful calls for the Colts week in and week out, no mention except maybe to say it was great playing by Manning.

 

I love the bias

[redtodd 7]

Ooops, the Colts got called for holding. Obviously a rogue ref.

[WhiteWonder 2,734]

What is funny is when one call goes for the Patriots (borderline roughing the passer on Brady against the Ravens), there are a ton of threads on it and mention in the media. Awful calls for the Colts week in and week out, no mention except maybe to say it was great playing by Manning.

 

I love the bias

 

i was just going to say how I loved the bias in the other direction.

[mzf5c5 0]

What is funny is when one call goes for the Patriots (borderline roughing the passer on Brady against the Ravens), there are a ton of threads on it and mention in the media. Awful calls for the Colts week in and week out, no mention except maybe to say it was great playing by Manning.

 

I love the bias

 

Same is said about the Pats fans and how they say how the Pats hand games to teams if they lose and are the studs if they barely win or get lucky.

 

Calls have been good on both sides of the ball. Even the ones against the Colts. So I disagree. Smacking the QB on the face is a flag, no matter which QB. I have seen it called and it should be. I am mad when the Colts players do it, as it will be flagged and they know it. Johnson's td was called a no TD, so it has to be enough evidence to over turn it, not there. If it was called a TD on the field, that would have stood for the Texans. All the others have been there.

[pittnthat 0]

AJ did not score(and i have schaub)

The PI call was bad but I think your hating on the Colts a bit.

[Ambroc 0]

PI call was one of the worst of the season; touch call AND uncatchable.

 

That said, Houston folded.

 

AJ did not score(and i have schaub)

The PI call was bad but I think your hating on the Colts a bit.

[Old School 360]

AJ needed to hold on to the ball - we knew that would not be a TD

The PI call was bogus & made a HUGE difference in the game.

[kmbryant09 1]

God awful gifts to the Colts.

 

They just a free 43 yards off one of the worst pass interference calls I have ever seen.

 

They did not count a TD by Andre Johnson in the end zone which he obvious had possession (TD became a FG).

 

They called a BS unnecessary roughness on the 1st Manning INT that made the Texans get the ball on the 40 instead of the 10 (got a FG instead of a possible TD).

 

That 43 yard Pass Interference call was the wrost though. Absolutely embarrassing and the refs should be fired.

You're a joke

 

The PI call was a bad call because the ball was uncatchable.

 

The TD by Andre Johnson - have you been under a rock all season? Nowadays you need to maintain possession of the ball when you go to the ground. Which he obviously didn't. He needed to keep control as he hit the ground - something he clearly wasn't able to do.

 

The "BS unnecessary roughness" call...Really? Again, have you not watched football this year?? You can't hit a QB in the face, at any point during a play, and it CLEARLY happened.

 

Take off your blinder goggles.

[s8ntandrew 0]

The "blow to the head" on Manning is definitely a penalty as written, but it's a ridiculously black-and-white rule that isn't even applied across the board. The contact was minimal and incidental, and the refs should have the leeway to not call a penalty in such circumstances. Though one might think they do have some discretion, considering that Jason Campbell was spun and slung to the ground at the end of the Redskins/Eagles game and no penalty was called.

 

I don't like how extreme the NFL has become at protecting the quarterbacks, but if that's the way it's going to be, protect ALL of the quarterbacks, not just the good ones.

[Ambroc 0]

...Though one might think they do have some discretion, considering that Jason Campbell was spun and slung to the ground at the end of the Redskins/Eagles game and no penalty was called.

 

Funny, I was thinking the same thing when I saw Campbell get crushed. "If that was Manning or Brady..."

[braylonjetwards 0]

The "BS unnecessary roughness" call...Really? Again, have you not watched football this year?? You can't hit a QB in the face, at any point during a play, and it CLEARLY happened.

i think the play he is referring to is the d end for Houston taking the pot shot on Dallas Clark on Cushing's int. Not the hands to the face on Manning. In the rules the hands to the helmet is a penalty so you can't really argue that. The Clark hit/block was iffy but it was certainly a cheap shot away from the play; I think the flag was warranted there. Johnson didn't hold on to the ball therefore definately not a TD. The PI call, though, that may have been the worst call I have seen all year.

[kmbryant09 1]

i think the play he is referring to is the d end for Houston taking the pot shot on Dallas Clark on Cushing's int. Not the hands to the face on Manning. In the rules the hands to the helmet is a penalty so you can't really argue that. The Clark hit/block was iffy but it was certainly a cheap shot away from the play; I think the flag was warranted there. Johnson didn't hold on to the ball therefore definately not a TD. The PI call, though, that may have been the worst call I have seen all year.

My bad - but yeah, when I saw the Clark hit I thought it was perfectly legal, but now the rule is you can't blind side someone if it is deemed away from the play, which it clearly was. It's another tough rule, but either way, besides the PI call, I thought the officiating was very even.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

God awful gifts to the Colts.

 

They just a free 43 yards off one of the worst pass interference calls I have ever seen.

 

They did not count a TD by Andre Johnson in the end zone which he obvious had possession (TD became a FG).

 

They called a BS unnecessary roughness on the 1st Manning INT that made the Texans get the ball on the 40 instead of the 10 (got a FG instead of a possible TD).

 

That 43 yard Pass Interference call was the wrost though. Absolutely embarrassing and the refs should be fired.

 

 

Umm. The first PI call on that drive was crap. Even the announcers said it was a BS call

 

The "TD" by Andre Johnson was not a TD. I have both Schaub and AJ this week and even though I am likely to lose because of that play, it was not a TD.

 

The unnecessary roughness was correct. You may not like the rule, but I think that that got that one right.

 

Houston has no one to blame but themselves for that loss.

[redtodd 7]

You're a joke

 

The PI call was a bad call because the ball was uncatchable.

 

The TD by Andre Johnson - have you been under a rock all season? Nowadays you need to maintain possession of the ball when you go to the ground. Which he obviously didn't. He needed to keep control as he hit the ground - something he clearly wasn't able to do.

 

The "BS unnecessary roughness" call...Really? Again, have you not watched football this year?? You can't hit a QB in the face, at any point during a play, and it CLEARLY happened.

 

Take off your blinder goggles.

 

The unnecessary roughness call was on the hit to Dallas Clark. That was a weak call. Not the one on Manning to the face, that was legit.

 

Andre Johnson had it the whole way while he got his two feet in, then it fell out after. He always had it tight in his left arm. In all fairness to the refs, I thought it was an incomplete in real time. When it was replayed in slow mo. If you want, at least try to make the arguement that there might not have been enough evidence to overturn it (even though I thought there was), don't pretend that he obviously did not have possession.

 

The Pass Interference call was beyond terrible. Uncatchable and no actual interference even if it was "catchable.". The one a few plays later was almost as bad. They only called it because the defender wasn't looking back. These are calls that are typical for the Colts. There is always at least one critical big play pass interference call per game going their way. Rarely are they legit. Seen it happen too many times.

 

In the end, it probably didn't matter because the Colts Defense stepped it up (which they have been doing a lot of this year in the 2nd half of games), while the Texans D stopped doing what was working the 1st half (applying pressure to Manning). Colts defense won this game for them.

[kmbryant09 1]

The unnecessary roughness call was on the hit to Dallas Clark. That was a weak call. Not the one on Manning to the face, that was legit.

 

Andre Johnson had it the whole way while he got his two feet in, then it fell out after. He always had it tight in his left arm. In all fairness to the refs, I thought it was an incomplete in real time. When it was replayed in slow mo. If you want, at least try to make the arguement that there might not have been enough evidence to overturn it (even though I thought there was), don't pretend that he obviously did not have possession.

 

The Pass Interference call was beyond terrible. Uncatchable and no actual interference even if it was "catchable.". The one a few plays later was almost as bad. They only called it because the defender wasn't looking back. These are calls that are typical for the Colts. There is always at least one critical big play pass interference call per game going their way. Rarely are they legit. Seen it happen too many times.

 

In the end, it probably didn't matter because the Colts Defense stepped it up (which they have been doing a lot of this year in the 2nd half of games), while the Texans D stopped doing what was working the 1st half (applying pressure to Manning). Colts defense won this game for them.

I agree the PI call was a gift, although I'm not sure it would have directly effected the outcome of the game.

 

But as I commented on the Dallas Clark hit, it was the right call. If you are away from a play (aka on the other side of the field, like this play), than you cannot blindside someone with a hit.

 

As for the Andre Johnson no-catch, c'mon man...we know the rules by now. I don't necessarily agree with them, but here's what the rules are when a player LEAVES HIS FEET TO MAKE A CATCH....He has to maintain control THROUGH AND AFTER HITTING THE GROUND. Meaning, if you get both feet down, your elbow and ass hit the ground, yet when the the ball/arms hit the ground, you still need to maintain control. Andre left his feet, got both feet down, but when he went to the ground, he lost possession of the ball.

 

I've argued a few of these calls earlier in the season - I don't agree with how long you need to hold the ball on a play like that, but that is the rules. So no it wasn't a judgement call or anything like that. It was the correct call.

[kmbryant09 1]

Also - not sure how "the defense won the game for them". Did they do their part in the 2nd half?? Absolutely. Did they put pressure on Schaub? Absolutely. They were giftwrapped one INT, and another pick-6 was a great play. But Manning also led the Colts to a TD drive right out of the gates in the 2nd half, which even made the game a contest. Then he opens the 4th quarter with another drive that ends in another TD that gives the DEF a 1-point lead to work with, resulting in a pick-6. Not that it mattered much, but the DEF gave up a TD with under a minute to go to even keep this game close.

 

Not saying the DEF played poorly at all, but they did give up 17 points on their first 3 DEF possessions. They made ZERO plays in the first half. The plays that they didn't make in the 1st half, they made in the 2nd half. But it's not like their pick-6 was a go-ahead score. Nor did they have a goal-line stand to win the game, etc. etc.

 

So please don't say the Colts DEF (who gave up 27 points), WON US the game, when Manning puts up 100 QB rating, including 3 TDs, and 3 TD drives in the 2nd half.

[spongeballer 2]

The AJ ruling was correct.

 

The ground cannot cause a fumble but it can cause an incompletion.

[markf 0]

The pass interference calls are what tweak me because you are not allowed to effectly cover the Colts WR's. If you are near them and it is incomplete, there is a good chance that it will be called. Expecially if it is a long play. It happens too many times.

 

Got no one to blame but your own team for that. Ever since the interference calls were "clarified" years ago following the Pats tradition of mauling WR's game after game... ending with the joke of a playoff game against the Colts.

 

Since that time... every receiver = MC Hammer.

[redtodd 7]

Also - not sure how "the defense won the game for them". Did they do their part in the 2nd half?? Absolutely. Did they put pressure on Schaub? Absolutely. They were giftwrapped one INT, and another pick-6 was a great play. But Manning also led the Colts to a TD drive right out of the gates in the 2nd half, which even made the game a contest. Then he opens the 4th quarter with another drive that ends in another TD that gives the DEF a 1-point lead to work with, resulting in a pick-6. Not that it mattered much, but the DEF gave up a TD with under a minute to go to even keep this game close.

 

Not saying the DEF played poorly at all, but they did give up 17 points on their first 3 DEF possessions. They made ZERO plays in the first half. The plays that they didn't make in the 1st half, they made in the 2nd half. But it's not like their pick-6 was a go-ahead score. Nor did they have a goal-line stand to win the game, etc. etc.

 

So please don't say the Colts DEF (who gave up 27 points), WON US the game, when Manning puts up 100 QB rating, including 3 TDs, and 3 TD drives in the 2nd half.

 

Let's see how the defense did in the 2nd half for the Colts:

 

1st drive - INT

2nd Drive - 4 plays and punt

3rd drive - INT for a TD

4th Drive - Sack and Fumble Recovery

5th Drive - TD in pretty much junk time.

 

Add in that Manning got picked off twice, got three pass interference calls in the 2nd half (including a back breaking 43 yarder to give them momentum) and it is obvious the defense was incredible in the 2nd half.

 

Manning led them to three TD drives in the 2nd half? Try one. One drive had the 43 yard PI call and 7 yard PI call to put the ball on the one. The other was 4 hand offs to the RB's with no passes. Manning led ONE drive in the 2nd half.

 

It is simple, if the defense does not step up in the 2nd half and put the team on its shoulders, the Colts do not win the game. Pretty obvious. Don't pretend that it was all Manning.

[redtodd 7]

Got no one to blame but your own team for that. Ever since the interference calls were "clarified" years ago following the Pats tradition of mauling WR's game after game... ending with the joke of a playoff game against the Colts.

 

Since that time... every receiver = MC Hammer.

 

The rule is "do not be near the receiver?"

[markf 0]

The rule is "do not be near the receiver?"

 

Sorry... my fault. You're TV must have had a better view of the 43 yard PI call than mine because mine clearly showed contact. Not just contact but, but he was holding Garcon's hand for 5 yards like they were bff. Uncatchable or not, my TV showed more than just being near him.

 

But your TV is probably better so I guess you win or something.

[edjr 6,580]

redtodd, you are starting to sound like BBB. please stop embarrassing yourself.

[Jeff Garcia 8]

Can't let the darlings of the NFL lose a game like this.

[mzf5c5 0]

The Pass Interference call was beyond terrible. Uncatchable and no actual interference even if it was "catchable.". The one a few plays later was almost as bad. They only called it because the defender wasn't looking back. These are calls that are typical for the Colts. There is always at least one critical big play pass interference call per game going their way. Rarely are they legit. Seen it happen too many times.

 

And the pass happy Pats and Moss never get them? Serious? I missed the PI for 43 yards. I don't think I had flipped back over yet to see it. But the one against Collie in the end zone was correct, If he isn't looking back and starts messing with the receiver before the ball gets to him, it is pass interference. Now, if he was playing the ball, different story.

[BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0]

The NFL robbed Houston yesterday. Now you guys see what it's like to try to beat the Colts. They give them 40 yard pass interferences like it's nothing. They give roughing the passer to Peyton all the time, they let Peyton hike the ball after the clock expires.

 

I am honestly beginning to think the NFL is fixed to help out Indy. Anything Indy wants over the years they get. They even changed the rules to help Indy win.

 

It's really pathetic and if I was a Colts fan I would be ashamed not proud of the last 5 weeks. Truly shameful how Indy had so much help to beat New England, Houston and others.

 

INDY WOULD NOT BE UNDEFEATED IF THE REFS DIDN'T GIVE THEM PASS INTERFERENCE CALLS WHENEVER THEY ARE BEHIND. It's a real shame, real shame.

 

I'll never respect this Indy team after the last few weeks. Yesterday was the last straw. I was watching the game with a crew of people and the over-riding opinion was "This is a waste of time and it's ruining the NFL. I'm going to stop watching games if they don't do something about it. Houston is getting robbed"

 

The entire game changes on that pass interference, and the same thing happened against the Patriots.

 

People talk about spygate? Indy is crooked folks, wake up and see the truth. Indy is crooked, Peyton and his crooked face are crooked, and Goodell is crooked.

[BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0]

Same is said about the Pats fans and how they say how the Pats hand games to teams if they lose and are the studs if they barely win or get lucky.

 

Calls have been good on both sides of the ball. Even the ones against the Colts. So I disagree. Smacking the QB on the face is a flag, no matter which QB. I have seen it called and it should be. I am mad when the Colts players do it, as it will be flagged and they know it. Johnson's td was called a no TD, so it has to be enough evidence to over turn it, not there. If it was called a TD on the field, that would have stood for the Texans. All the others have been there.

 

MZ are you a smart person? Because either you are an idiot or you intentionally ALWAYS take the side of Indy and against New England to get under people skin.

 

If the Patriots got that call against Houston you'd be here saying it was bullshit. If Brady gets a roughing the passer this board and ESPN is flooded with people bitching about it. There is one thread on this about Peyton and the Colts.

 

Seriously for once just shut the f up with your bs opinion and tell the truth.

 

That was a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TERRIBLE PASS INTERFERENCE IT RUINED THE GAME! RUINED IT! RUINED IT!

 

You my friend have serious problems if you can't recognize that Peyton got a huge PI call against us that WAS NOT PASS INTERFERENCE AND HE GOT ONE YESTERDAY!

 

If you can't admit that then I'm going to ignore your comments from now on because you are not rational.

[HardTack 0]

The NFL robbed Houston yesterday. Now you guys see what it's like to try to beat the Colts. They give them 40 yard pass interferences like it's nothing. They give roughing the passer to Peyton all the time, they let Peyton hike the ball after the clock expires.

 

I am honestly beginning to think the NFL is fixed to help out Indy. Anything Indy wants over the years they get. They even changed the rules to help Indy win.

 

It's really pathetic and if I was a Colts fan I would be ashamed not proud of the last 5 weeks. Truly shameful how Indy had so much help to beat New England, Houston and others.

 

INDY WOULD NOT BE UNDEFEATED IF THE REFS DIDN'T GIVE THEM PASS INTERFERENCE CALLS WHENEVER THEY ARE BEHIND. It's a real shame, real shame.

 

I'll never respect this Indy team after the last few weeks. Yesterday was the last straw. I was watching the game with a crew of people and the over-riding opinion was "This is a waste of time and it's ruining the NFL. I'm going to stop watching games if they don't do something about it. Houston is getting robbed"

 

The entire game changes on that pass interference, and the same thing happened against the Patriots.

 

People talk about spygate? Indy is crooked folks, wake up and see the truth. Indy is crooked, Peyton and his crooked face are crooked, and Goodell is crooked.

 

 

Of course the league is for INdy....the same league that allowed them to get beat in the first round of the playoffs in more years than I care to count....must be something fishy going on there.

[mzf5c5 0]

MZ are you a smart person? Because either you are an idiot or you intentionally ALWAYS take the side of Indy and against New England to get under people skin.

 

If the Patriots got that call against Houston you'd be here saying it was bullshit. If Brady gets a roughing the passer this board and ESPN is flooded with people bitching about it. There is one thread on this about Peyton and the Colts.

 

Seriously for once just shut the f up with your bs opinion and tell the truth.

 

That was a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TERRIBLE PASS INTERFERENCE IT RUINED THE GAME! RUINED IT! RUINED IT!

 

You my friend have serious problems if you can't recognize that Peyton got a huge PI call against us that WAS NOT PASS INTERFERENCE AND HE GOT ONE YESTERDAY!

 

If you can't admit that then I'm going to ignore your comments from now on because you are not rational.

 

Oh BBB, your last two post have me laughing to hard. The sad part, I think you actually believe them. Just kidding.

 

Now, I missed the one yesterday, but the one against the Pats was bad. I do agree with that. If it is the one I am thinking about. I didn't think it was PI, but I wasn't going to argue with the Ref.

 

And Manning isn't going to argue either. At least Manning isn't always waving at the Ref's to throw a flag like Brady.

[markf 0]

... They even changed the rules to help Indy win.

 

Wow. Really? Do you as a Pat's fan really want to wade into those waters?

[RoadLizard 73]

I didnt see the game but complaining about lousy calls from Pats fans is like Nazis complaning about Facism & Hate. It. Just. Doesnt. Fly. Lets review:

 

- The infamous FOCK rule errr.... Tuck rule that still remains the worst call ever in the history of the NFL. Even if the rule was on the books, Brady got focking SACKED and fumbled. Game over. Raiders win. Oh wait... whatever.

 

- Raping the Rams WRs during the Super Bowl. Noone else could stop the Rams that year but suddenly a bunch of no-name Pats players rise to the occassion? Yeah right. Another travesty.

 

- Phantom roughing calls on Brady have cost Pats opponents plenty, especially since hes come back from his knee injury. Hes a protected species now...like a spotted tree owl or something. Maybe PETA can try to save Brady?

 

- Years of suspect dealings and cheating. We'll never really know the extent of it but the "black cloud of doubt" has been cast on this franchise and their coach and it will never go away.

 

Just face it: The road to the Super Bowl WILL go through Indy so just accept it and be prepared to see calls go INDY's way. If you dont want pass interference called then stay off the WRs backs. Or, better yet, try earning homefield advantage like the Colts have. No snow, no wind, indoors.....YEAH BABY!

 

Next topic.

[FeelingMN 273]

Seriously for once just shut the f up with your bs opinion and tell the truth.

 

 

 

 

[TD Ryan2 316]

try earning homefield advantage like the Colts have. No snow, no wind, indoors.....YEAH BABY!

 

and not contact.

 

The Colts are the best flag football team ever assembled, nobody's doubting that.

[kmbryant09 1]

You Pats fans are a joke -

 

BirdBrady & RedTodd - I'd say you are losing a lot of respect around here, but I'm not sure you have any to begin with. You'd be ashamed to be a Colts fan right now?? Why? Because we have the best QB in the game? The best record in the game? 5-straight come-from-behind victories, including a sweet win over our rival Patriots? Because we are 2 wins away from breaking NE's regular season win mark? Because we've already locked up our division, and essentially home field advantage throughout the playoffs??

 

Ya, must suck to be a Colts fan