Obama question

[Big_Pete 0]

Ok, I'm prefacing this with my official stance on Obama as "I didn't vote for him, I prayed he didn't get voted president. I think he's the worst president this country has had in at least my lifetime, and I'm still not sold on the fact that he's American, so he should get the boot, as well as his vice president. Plus, he's running this country into the toilet."

Anyways......

I see things on facebook that have quotes from him when it comes to military veterans' health care. He says that because they volunteered for service, they should have known that there were health risks involved, so they should do the patriotic thing and not expect free health care, that way, the extra money can help the country get out of debt.

Now, I have no doubts that Obama is about as smart as a bag of dirt, but could he really be that retarded? I'm hoping that it is just rumor and unfounded, but on the other hand, I put nothing past that worthless lump of shit.

If it's true, can you post an article? I'm looking at you for this too posty!

From Facebook

Obama's answer to when he wanted Vets passed and present to pay for their health care.

 

"Look, it's an all volunteer force,"Obama complained."Nobody made these guys go to war. They had to have known and accepted the risks. Now they whine about bearing the costs of their choice? It doesn't compute.." "I thought these were people who were proud to sacrifice for their country" Obama continued. "I wasn't asking for blood, just money. With the country facing the worst financial crisis in its history, I'd have thought that the patriotic thing to do would be to try to help reduce the nation's deficit. I guess I underestimated the selfishness of some of my fellow Americans."

[Obama Trauma 0]

[crackattack 520]

As a ex-military man myself, I see this a couple of ways.

 

1. If you serve at least 20 years (the minimum for retirement) and retire. Then you should receive all the retirement bennys.

 

2. If you serve some time, less then 20 years, I kinda agree. Nobody made me join, it is all volunteer.

 

I did 4 years in the Navy during the first Gulf War as a Medic to the Marines. I knew the risks, nothing happened to me. I am perfectly able to find a job that has insurance....which I did. I feel like the VA is for wounded Vets or Vets with psych problems, or retirees. That is just my humble opinion.

[Big_Pete 0]

As a ex-military man myself, I see this a couple of ways.

 

1. If you serve at least 20 years (the minimum for retirement) and retire. Then you should receive all the retirement bennys.

 

2. If you serve some time, less then 20 years, I kinda agree. Nobody made me join, it is all volunteer.

 

I did 4 years in the Navy during the first Gulf War as a Medic to the Marines. I knew the risks, nothing happened to me. I am perfectly able to find a job that has insurance....which I did. I feel like the VA is for wounded Vets or Vets with psych problems, or retirees. That is just my humble opinion.

I'm an ex military man too.

While I can walk in to any VA Hospital because of this, I still have to pay for my visit because I'm not disabled/retired.

What this means is that Obama would be talking about disabled vets/retired vets.

If he indeed said this, which I'm still hoping that our president isn't stupid enough to say.

[crackattack 520]

I'm an ex military man too.

While I can walk in to any VA Hospital because of this, I still have to pay for my visit because I'm not disabled/retired.

What this means is that Obama would be talking about disabled vets/retired vets.

If he indeed said this, which I'm still hoping that our president isn't stupid enough to say.

 

 

I would surely hope he is not talking about retirees and the wounded. The military is just like any other job.......with greater risks during war time of course. But the benefits are there for a reason, and they are there when you sign up. If someone does 20+years, or is wounded, they should absolutely receive these benefits. He surely didnt say this.

 

 

eta: I'm not an Obama supporter at all. I just cant imagine any president during war time saying something like this...ever.

[MedStudent 56]

big pete, what you posted was typical conservative lies about obama. Are you really a birther too? I imagine this is another conservative email that was floated around. dumb dumb dumb

[MedStudent 56]

and I'm still not sold on the fact that he's American,

 

I don't even think the birthers ever claimed he was not an American. Are you saying his mother was not american either?

[drobeski 3,061]

I don't even think the birthers ever claimed he was not an American. Are you saying his mother was not american either?

could you please post the picture you have of his birth certificate.....thanks, a very simple thing like that would put all this sillyness to rest.

 

Thanks man, I knew the board could count on medstudent

[Frank M 181]

Ok, I'm prefacing this with my official stance on Obama as "I didn't vote for him, I prayed he didn't get voted president. I think he's the worst president this country has had in at least my lifetime, and I'm still not sold on the fact that he's American, so he should get the boot, as well as his vice president. Plus, he's running this country into the toilet."

 

So you preface it by giving us the idea that you're an idiot.

 

Then you post this and prove it:

 

I see things on facebook that have quotes from him when it comes to military veterans' health care. He says that because they volunteered for service, they should have known that there were health risks involved, so they should do the patriotic thing and not expect free health care, that way, the extra money can help the country get out of debt.

Now, I have no doubts that Obama is about as smart as a bag of dirt, but could he really be that retarded? I'm hoping that it is just rumor and unfounded, but on the other hand, I put nothing past that worthless lump of shit.

If it's true, can you post an article? I'm looking at you for this too posty!

From Facebook

Link to snopes. He never said it. But don't let fact checking get in the way of passing on dumbass right wing e-mail rumors

 

Tool.

[MedStudent 56]

could you please post the picture you have of his birth certificate.....thanks, a very simple thing like that would put all this sillyness to rest.

 

Thanks man, I knew the board could count on medstudent

 

Drobeski is a birther too!!!! HA HA HA! The same guy who thinks Sikh's practice Islam!

[DAVID RUFFIN 2]

The scary thing is that they walk among us.

[Mungwater 601]

There is no way Obama said that about veteran healthcare

[Big_Pete 0]

So snopes says that he never made that 2 paragraph speech, but he did have that bill.

That isn't quite as damning as the made up speech, but in a way, it is just as bad. Obama actually wanted to pass a bill and had the bill written to make veterans pay their bills for combat injuries, including amputations!!!! Are you focking kidding me Obama?!?!?

[Voltaire 5,496]

There's plenty of legitimate stuff to criticize President Obama on so it's amazing people feel a need to make sh*t up.

[buffalobillsffl2003 0]

I don't even think the birthers ever claimed he was not an American. Are you saying his mother was not american either?

 

does mudshark qualify as amerikan?

 

[NewbieJr 541]

There's plenty of legitimate stuff to criticize President Obama on so it's amazing people feel a need to make sh*t up.

SOOOO desperate to win in 2012.

 

This is what happens when you know you have absolutely no one in your party that would be a better option. You just try to make up crap and brainwash people into thinking that any old retard your party rolls out there is better than what we have.

 

Keep trying, guys. It's pathetic, but humorous.

[Sho Nuff 720]

So you preface it by giving us the idea that you're an idiot.

 

Then you post this and prove it:

 

 

Link to snopes. He never said it. But don't let fact checking get in the way of passing on dumbass right wing e-mail rumors

 

Tool.

 

Read his post...while I don't think Pete is some scholar...he very clearly was asking if it was true and for the full article if it was.

And it should have been obvious that he would not say it...even Bush would not have been dumb enough to say something that bad.

And tool...at least you signed off your post...because you certainly acted like a complete tool.

[Sho Nuff 720]

SOOOO desperate to win in 2012.

 

This is what happens when you know you have absolutely no one in your party that would be a better option. You just try to make up crap and brainwash people into thinking that any old retard your party rolls out there is better than what we have.

 

Keep trying, guys. It's pathetic, but humorous.

 

So just what the Democrats did when they pushed Obama up based mostly on one convention speech?

[NewbieJr 541]

So just what the Democrats did when they pushed Obama up based mostly on one convention speech?

Hillary would have been much better than McCain, too.

[Frank M 181]

Read his post...while I don't think Pete is some scholar...he very clearly was asking if it was true and for the full article if it was.

And it should have been obvious that he would not say it...even Bush would not have been dumb enough to say something that bad.

And tool...at least you signed off your post...because you certainly acted like a complete tool.

 

I read his first post, and he came off as a tool. The second post just confirmed he was an idiotic tool.

 

Maybe I should have just called him a sho nuff. Same thing.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I read his first post, and he came off as a tool. The second post just confirmed he was an idiotic tool.

 

Maybe I should have just called him a sho nuff. Same thing.

 

Yet...the only one really being a tool here is you.

[Frank M 181]

Yet...the only one really being a tool here is you.

 

You're the one defending a birther. I would say that makes you a focking idiot.

 

As usual.

[RLLD 4,275]

If you serve the full 20, you retire with full bene's; anything less and you are on your own.

 

If you are injure din the line of duty, you receive treatment for those injuries until you die. If you perish in the line of duty, well, that is already pretty solid right now....

[Sho Nuff 720]

You're the one defending a birther. I would say that makes you a focking idiot.

 

As usual.

What does him being a birther have to do with anything I have said in here?

Oh wait...nothing.

As usual, a red herring for you to whine about.

[DankNuggs 305]

Nope, his military embarrassment was Guantanamo, letting convicts head back to the middle east to plan more terror plots

 

 

then it was threatening to sue Arizona for attempting to enforce the federal law itself

 

 

then it was going off to play golf instead of being at Arlington Cemetrary on Memorial Day like EVERY OTHER president we've had...

 

 

 

His presidency will be remembered as the wake up call america needed....Only a historically bad presidency could get us as a country to change the way we look at the role of the government, our role as citizens and what rights and privileges we will enjoy in the future

[NewbieJr 541]

then it was going off to play golf instead of being at Arlington Cemetrary on Memorial Day like EVERY OTHER president we've had...

Actually, he attended a Memorial service in Chicago on Memorial Day.

 

Also, Bush missed the Arlington memorial one year, too. Might want to hire a fact checker before making a fool of yourself.

[NewbieJr 541]

His presidency will be remembered as the wake up call america needed....

 

This post is two years too late.

 

America already had a wake-up call due to a Presidency. Didn't you see all the election results since then?

[DankNuggs 305]

Actually, he attended a Memorial service in Chicago on Memorial Day.

 

Also, Bush missed the Arlington memorial one year, too. Might want to hire a fact checker before making a fool of yourself.

Hope, Change, and Golf

[DankNuggs 305]

 

This post is two years too late.

 

America already had a wake-up call due to a Presidency. Didn't you see all the election results since then?

"Obama : The Answer to a Question Nobody Asked"

[NewbieJr 541]

"Obama : The Answer to a Question Nobody Asked"

Hopefully, your party does a better job the next time it regains control. If you don't like the job Obama is doing, you only have the previous eight years to blame.

Reagan couldn't have gotten elected after what your boy did with his time in office.

 

Do better.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

This post is two years too late.

 

America already had a wake-up call due to a Presidency. Didn't you see all the election results since then?

 

And apparently we did not wake up.

Compared to how bad you all say Bush was (and it was bad) Obama should look incredible right now.

Instead...he is comparable to the guy before him that you all claim sucked so bad.

[Sho Nuff 720]

If you don't like the job Obama is doing, you only have the previous eight years to blame.

 

Wow...blaming Bush for Obama now?

[GutterBoy 2,900]

And apparently we did not wake up.

Compared to how bad you all say Bush was (and it was bad) Obama should look incredible right now.

Instead...he is comparable to the guy before him that you all claim sucked so bad.

 

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9295/88304565.jpg

[FlaHawker 24]

Hopefully, your party does a better job the next time it regains control. If you don't like the job Obama is doing, you only have the previous eight years to blame.

Reagan couldn't have gotten elected after what your boy did with his time in office.

 

Do better.

Stay ignorant Newbie. Obama's counting on it

[NorthernVike 2,096]

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9295/88304565.jpg

 

 

That photo freaks me the fock out. :ascared:

[NewbieJr 541]

Stay ignorant Newbie. Obama's counting on it

So you don't think that Bush's performance killed any chance for a Republican to win in '08?

 

Let me hear you actually express an opinion or thought for once.

[FlaHawker 24]

Let me hear you actually express an opinion or thought for once.

LOL

[Frank M 181]

What does him being a birther have to do with anything I have said in here?

Oh wait...nothing.

As usual, a red herring for you to whine about.

 

What red herring? If I was making an argument, I could throw out a red herring. I'm making a statement: he's a tool and you're an idiot.

[NewbieJr 541]

LOL

Exactly what I thought. Nothing.

[FlaHawker 24]

Exactly what I thought. Nothing.

LOL