What player is Vick worth in a trade?

[Gepetto 1,368]

What player has been traded for Vick since he was declared the starter yesterday?

 

Or, Vick owners who have him as their #2 QB, what would you want?

 

Those trying to trade for Vick, who would you give up for Vick?

 

I just offered Jerome Harrison for Vick. The owner has only Arian Foster at RB and his QBs are Cutler and Vick. It's a start 1 RB league with 2 flex, and 3 WRs, all touchdowns 6 points.

[surferskin 30]

I'm treating Vick like a top 5 QB. So whatever they're worth, that's what I'd be willing to take. But in the one league, I own him, I've also got Romo. I really rather trade Romo.

[hellfish21 1]

A lot of factors involved here, but I'd think a 2nd tier RB should get it done.

I saw a Mendenhall for Vick deal in one of my leagues.

[edjr 6,580]

I'm treating Vick like a top 5 QB. So whatever they're worth, that's what I'd be willing to take. But in the one league, I own him, I've also got Romo. I really rather trade Romo.

 

you'd rather have Vick than Rivers?

[RamslovaMartzhata 3]

Unless you get bonus points for out of position yards and TD's... it sonds like peopel are gertting carried away with Vick here. No way I'd want him over Rivers or Romo. Sorry if I want to see more out than a game vs the Lions and half a game vs the injury decimated secondary of GB.

 

Vick for Mendenhaul is complete lunacy.

 

Vick for Steve Smith NYG just went down in our league... I think that's about fair value to be honest.

[Puddleglum 0]

you'd rather have Vick than Rivers?

 

It sounds like madness, but don't forget that in 2006 Vick was the #2 fantasy QB behind Manning in standard scoring, and he missed a game.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

I also have Vick and Cutler. Right now I would trade either of them for a every week flex guy.

 

but what I Am looking for is to trade 1 of my QB's and Hakeem Nicks for a WR1 type like a Wayne. The owner of Wayne has Kolb and Cassell currently

 

then I could have Austin and Wayne as my WR's yummy.

[Busted by the Feds 9]

Can Vick possibly get an Arian Foster back, if the Foster owner is in last place, scoring the least points and his starting QB is Carson Palmer ?

[surferskin 30]

you'd rather have Vick than Rivers?

 

If I had both those guys, I'd trade the guy that netted me the most. I think think Vick has the most upside of the two though. Higher risk but more reward.

[surferskin 30]

Unless you get bonus points for out of position yards and TD's...

 

What the hell does this even mean?

[DexterMorgan 5]

I think Vick's value is incredibly inflated. I'd try to move him if i had him and wouldn't go anywhere near him if i didn't.

[edjr 6,580]

What the hell does this even mean?

 

Some leagues give you a bonus for out of position yards and tds.

 

for instance.

 

a rushing td for a RB is 6 pts but a qb rushing td might be 9 pts

 

100 rushing yards for a RB might be 6 points, but 50 qb or WR rushing yards is 6 pts

[surferskin 30]

Some leagues give you a bonus for out of position yards and tds.

 

for instance.

 

a rushing td for a RB is 6 pts but a qb rushing td might be 9 pts

 

100 rushing yards for a RB might be 6 points, but 50 qb or WR rushing yards is 6 pts

 

That's just dumb.

[Puddleglum 0]

You don't need weird scoring modifiers to give value to what Vick does on the ground. In standard scoring, 40 yards rushing is the equivalent of an extra 100 yards passing, or 1 passing TD. A rushing TD is like +50 Yards passing and 1 passing TD. That stuff adds up quickly, and is the reason he was the #2 QB in 2006.

[touchdowntwitaker 2]

Haha. These posts are redic. Check the birds sched it gets redic hard the rest of the way . Our line stinks. Sell high if you can . He's a top 10-12 guy maybe this year., maybe

[surferskin 30]

Everyone likes to point to the Detroit game when discussing Vick's success but the irony is, if the Lions didn't suck so bad, Vick would have had even better stats. He did all his damage in the first half. Wait til he has to play all 4 quarters.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

A savvy owner got a reprieve from Reid today and would move him for a 2/3 WR in standard leagues to get him out right now. Of course there are always idiots and Eagles fans out there, so you may get more.

[Phurfur 70]

Vick is a sell high right now.

[mobb_deep 920]

Haha. These posts are redic. Check the birds sched it gets redic hard the rest of the way . Our line stinks. Sell high if you can . He's a top 10-12 guy maybe this year., maybe

 

 

LOL at the guys saying Vick is a top 5 QB. Vick hasn't been a top 5 QB FF QB in his entire career.

 

I'd expect a middle of the pack RB (Harrison, Williams, Barber, Forte, etc).

[KSB2424 3,148]

Even in Vicks prime he wasn't a top 5 fantasy QB. You guys are funny.

 

I need to see the Eagles play an actual NFL team with Vick at QB before I make crazy statements like that.

[surferskin 30]

Even in Vicks prime he wasn't a top 5 fantasy QB. You guys are funny.

 

I need to see the Eagles play an actual NFL team with Vick at QB before I make crazy statements like that.

 

He's been top 5 twice in my leagues.

 

ETA: He was #5 in 06 and #3 in 02.

[Lion Fan 0]

He's been top 5 twice in my leagues.

 

ETA: He was #5 in 06 and #3 in 02.

 

Agree with this. In my league he was ranked as follows:

2005 #6

2006 #2

[Puddleglum 0]

LOL at the guys saying Vick is a top 5 QB. Vick hasn't been a top 5 QB FF QB in his entire career.

 

Even in Vicks prime he wasn't a top 5 fantasy QB. You guys are funny.

 

How many times do I have to say this.

 

In 2006, (the last time he was a starting quarterback) under standard scoring*, Michael Vick scored 262 points in 15 games, second only to Peyton Manning.

 

*25 passing yards = 1 point, Passing TD = 4 points, Int = -2 points, 10 rushing yards = 1 point, Rushing TD = 6 points

[surferskin 30]

How many times do I have to say this.

 

In 2006, under standard scoring*, Michael Vick scored 262 points in 15 games, second only to Peyton Manning.

 

*25 passing yards = 1 point, Passing TD = 4 points, Int = -2 points, 10 rushing yards = 1 point, Rushing TD = 6 points

And in my league where you get:

 

1 point per 20 yards passing

6 points per TD rushing or passing

1 point per 10 yards rushing

 

 

He was still top 5.

 

Mob_doosh and KSB don't know what they're talking about...as usual.

[KSB2424 3,148]

I play in 6pt pass TD's leagues.

 

In 2006, Vicks best year, when he was much younger and hadn't missed a year and a half to jail he finished 5th.

 

1. Manning

2. Brees

3. Bulger

4. Palmer

5. Vick

 

Every other year he was over-valued, drafted in the first two rounds based on his "hype", and the savvy guys laughed at them. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[surferskin 30]

I play in 6pt pass TD's leagues.

 

In 2006, Vicks best year, when he was much younger and hadn't missed a year and a half to jail he finished 5th.

 

1. Manning

2. Brees

3. Bulger

4. Palmer

5. Vick

 

hope.this.helps

 

That kinda looks like top 5.

 

You outta look back to 2002...Vick's best year.

[surferskin 30]

Every other year he was over-valued, drafted in the first two rounds based on his "hype", and the savvy guys laughed at them. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

 

Oh, so you were just being savvy and not totally wrong?

[KSB2424 3,148]

Vick was the most hyped QB in fantasy football history that never really lived up to his draft status. This cannot be denied.

 

Also, the Bulger name got me thinking. Has anybody came out of nowhere, to be a stud, to then fall off the face of the earth faster than Marc Bulger?

[KSB2424 3,148]

If somebody sent me a trade offer of Vick for my Arian Foster I would shart myself laughing.

[Gepetto 1,368]

So for owners that have Vick and another top QB, what running back would you need to move Vick?

 

Which of these RBs is fair for Vick:

 

Adrian Peterson

Chris Johnson

Maurice Jones-Drew

Ray Rice

Rashard Mendenhall

Steven Jackson

Frank Gore

Arian Foster

Pierre Thomas

Michael Turner

Jahvid Best

Matt Forte

LeSean McCoy

DeAngelo Williams

Jamaal Charles

Cedric Benson

Knowshon Moreno

Ryan Mathews

Ahmad Bradshaw

Shonn Greene

Clinton Portis

Felix Jones

Cadillac Williams

Joseph Addai

Ricky Williams

Chris Wells

Jonathan Stewart

Justin Forsett

Marion Barber

Tim Hightower

Ronnie Brown

C.J. Spiller

Jerome Harrison

LaDainian Tomlinson

Darren McFadden

Thomas Jones

Fred Jackson

Willis McGahee

Darren Sproles

Chester Taylor

Peyton Hillis

[surferskin 30]

Vick was the most hyped QB in fantasy football history that never really lived up to his draft status. This cannot be denied.

 

Also, the Bulger name got me thinking. Has anybody came out of nowhere, to be a stud, to then fall off the face of the earth faster than Marc Bulger?

 

No one denied the Vick hype, I just denied that you were right. Which you weren't.

[Adam 0]

Vick was the most hyped QB in fantasy football history that never really lived up to his draft status. This cannot be denied.

 

Also, the Bulger name got me thinking. Has anybody came out of nowhere, to be a stud, to then fall off the face of the earth faster than Marc Bulger?

 

You must be too young to remember Kordell Stewart.

[mobb_deep 920]

And in my league where you get:

 

1 point per 20 yards passing

6 points per TD rushing or passing

1 point per 10 yards rushing

 

 

He was still top 5.

 

Mob_doosh and KSB don't know what they're talking about...as usual.

 

LOL, now let's not go so far as to say "as usual". Being wrong is a rarity for me! And why you gotta call me a doosh? I've never done you no wrong. Us old timers got to stick together around here. Especially guys like us who joined two days apart from one another. Christ sake man.

 

That said, I appear to be have been wrong here.

 

Still the fact of the matter is this, people aren't going to give up top players for WW pick-up's. It all goes back to the perceived value of the player in relation to where they are drafted. People are going to say "why should I give you a guy I drafted in round 2 for a WW pick-up".

 

If Kevin Walter continues to put up great numbers and Colston continues to unimpress, nobody is still going to give up Colston for Walters. That whole male ego things gets in the way every time.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

So for owners that have Vick and another top QB, what running back would you need to move Vick?

 

Which of these RBs is fair for Vick:

 

......

Better edit that list, it's completely obsolete and is going to take an hour for someone to sift through.

[Gepetto 1,368]

Better edit that list, it's completely obsolete and is going to take an hour for someone to sift through.

 

Good point.

 

That was FFToday's preseason rankings for this year.

 

I edited it.

[De Novo 0]

I think Vick's value is incredibly inflated. I'd try to move him if i had him and wouldn't go anywhere near him if i didn't.

 

I think only someone who hasn't watched the games or Vick in the past would say this. This is the best he has ever looked and he has the most weapons he's ever had in the most wide-open offense. If I'm drafting today, Vick is the #5 QB on my board, and I think there's a lot of upside there especiallyy in 4 pt passing TD leagues.

[tanatastic 2,062]

when vick is playing well he is the most dangerous fantasy qb in the game. He cheats his way to 20 points with games like 175 2td 2int 1FL 70 rush yds.

 

Also, the point has been made that he is coming off jail and is older and all that. He might be a BETTER qb now that hes older and more mature. Vick has a great arm and is making good throws right now, if he can keep it up there is no one more dangerous. The schedule will get tougher and if he can play well vs washington in 2 weeks and vs patrick willis the week after, he passes the test. Bottom line hes a great sell high but also a potential mvp if you get no takers.

[llano 0]

In my league (pretty close to standard scoring) -- Vick was #2 in 2006, #5 in 2005, #8 in 2004, (hurt most of 03), #2 in 02. I'd say you should be able to get value as high as top-5 QB (need to find someone not fear-averse). He was a so-so real life QB (though, he was a winner), but a stud fantasy QB -- his running more than made up for his lack of accuracy and so-so pass yardage. And, i'll bet that top-5QB is an accurate gauge of this value the rest of the year (unless he gets hurt).

[justforbeer 41]

MAN VICK IS A STUD!

 

Everyone has forgotten how he could score huge points every week just with his legs and he had alge as his only go to guy....now he has DJAX, Celek, Mcshady and Macdady.

Not to mention Phili D sucks!

 

They will put up points like crazy!!!

I think Akers will be the top kicker this year.

 

Vick is worth a #5-#10 RB or a top WR period. You would have to package him with a top 20 rb/wr to make the deal clean but still I am starting him over Brady and if Vick gets hurt....I got Brady to throw in there....I am clear to the playoffs this year no question with my team.

[Joscellin 0]

MAN VICK IS A STUD!

 

Everyone has forgotten how he could score huge points every week just with his legs and he had alge as his only go to guy....now he has DJAX, Celek, Mcshady and Macdady.

Not to mention Phili D sucks!

 

They will put up points like crazy!!!

I think Akers will be the top kicker this year.

 

Vick is worth a #5-#10 RB or a top WR period. You would have to package him with a top 20 rb/wr to make the deal clean but still I am starting him over Brady and if Vick gets hurt....I got Brady to throw in there....I am clear to the playoffs this year no question with my team.

 

 

I also have the Vick/Brady combo, and am starting Vick for the second week in a row if none of my trade offers go through.

 

Do we know for sure that Vick is the go-to guy from here on out over Kolb? Is it possible the start this week is just to make sure Kolb is really good-to-go after the concussion? I ask because I'm starting to think about trading Brady away. My team lacks a real WR1 (got about 4 WR2s) and I'm still hurting from having Greene as RB2. Gotta trade one of them.