Where have all the "studs" gone?

[Lion Fan 0]

Is it me or does it seem like there are a lot fewer "studs" this year? When I look at the rosters in my league there are only a handful of of guys that I fear going against.

 

 

Just wondering who everyone else considers a stud anymore...or better yet who is no longer a stud in your mind?

[Kent 228]

Is it me or does it seem like there are a lot fewer "studs" this year? When I look at the rosters in my league there are only a handful of of guys that I fear going against.

 

 

Just wondering who everyone else considers a stud anymore...or better yet who is no longer a stud in your mind?

 

Larry Fitzgerald cries himself to sleep every Saturday night.

[kmbryant09 1]

QB's:

Peyton Manning

Aaron Rodgers

Philip Rivers

 

Borderline:

Kyle Orton, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger

 

WR's:

Roddy White

Hakeem Nicks

Reggie Wayne

Anquan Boldin

 

Borderline:

Maclin/Jackson, Calvin Johnson, TO , Greg Jennings, Andre Johnson

 

RB's:

Arian Foster

Adrian Peterson

Chris Johnson

Frank Gore

LeSean McCoy

 

Borderline: About 20 RB's (Rice, Mendenhall, LT, Bradshaw, Forte, Hillis, Turner, etc.)

[RoadLizard 73]

QB's:

Peyton Manning

Aaron Rodgers

Philip Rivers

 

Borderline:

Kyle Orton, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger

 

WR's:

Roddy White

Hakeem Nicks

Reggie Wayne

Anquan Boldin

 

Borderline:

Maclin/Jackson, Calvin Johnson, TO , Greg Jennings, Andre Johnson

 

RB's:

Arian Foster

Adrian Peterson

Chris Johnson

Frank Gore

LeSean McCoy

 

Borderline: About 20 RB's (Rice, Mendenhall, LT, Bradshaw, Forte, Hillis, Turner, etc.)

 

Your list has some good picks I'd argue against others:

 

- Wayne has a whopping TWO TD's this year through 6 games. Not a stud.

- Gore has 3 total TDs this year in 7 games. Not a stud.

- Boldin started slow but has caught on recently.

 

Just saying - a lot of the guys you listed in both categories have similar stats to no-name guys. There IS a stud shortage this year.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

QB's:

Peyton Manning

Aaron Rodgers

Philip Rivers

 

Borderline:

Kyle Orton, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger

 

WR's:

Roddy White

Hakeem Nicks

Reggie Wayne

Anquan Boldin

 

Borderline:

Maclin/Jackson, Calvin Johnson, TO , Greg Jennings, Andre Johnson

 

RB's:

Arian Foster

Adrian Peterson

Chris Johnson

Frank Gore

LeSean McCoy

 

Borderline: About 20 RB's (Rice, Mendenhall, LT, Bradshaw, Forte, Hillis, Turner, etc.)

This is a good list......7 weeks into the season. Names have probably fallen off that would have been there earlier in the season (and vice versa) and after week 8 I'd guess this list would change again.

 

Nice work for conversation sake though

[Kent 228]

QB's:

Peyton Manning

Aaron Rodgers

Philip Rivers

 

Borderline:

Kyle Orton, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger

 

WR's:

Roddy White

Hakeem Nicks

Reggie Wayne

Anquan Boldin

 

Borderline:

Maclin/Jackson, Calvin Johnson, TO , Greg Jennings, Andre Johnson

 

RB's:

Arian Foster

Adrian Peterson

Chris Johnson

Frank Gore

LeSean McCoy

 

Borderline: About 20 RB's (Rice, Mendenhall, LT, Bradshaw, Forte, Hillis, Turner, etc.)

 

The number two scoring RB in my league is Darren McFadden, and he's missed two games. He's in the stud column, as hard to believe that is.

[TD Ryan2 316]

agree with the sentiment that the "studs" haven't emerged yet.

 

The top RBs haven't really outpaced the pack... there are 8 - 10 guys in the same range of total points scored.

Same with the WRs.

We are seeing a lot of BOOM weeks out of individuals and that BOOM skews the rankings.

We haven't really seen one guy who's consistently putting up that 20 point week... perhaps it's too early in the season, those BOOM weeks will average out soon and we'll have a better idea of who the weekly studs are.

[pimptastic69 0]

White, Rivers and Manning are the only ones that fit the bill.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

One from each category:

 

Peyton Focking Manning

Roddy Focking White

Arian Focking Foster

Gates; just focking Gates

[TD Ryan2 316]

White

 

only because of the 34pts. he just put up. BOOM.

 

Roddy White's been a 12pt per week guy up til last game.

 

not saying he won't be great going forward, just that it's not really clear cut calling him the true "stud" WR.

[edjr 6,580]

White, Rivers and Manning are the only ones that fit the bill.

 

This

[pimptastic69 0]

only because of the 34pts. he just put up. BOOM.

 

Roddy White's been a 12pt per week guy up til last game.

 

not saying he won't be great going forward, just that it's not really clear cut calling him the true "stud" WR.

 

He's been the only consistent WR.

 

Rivers and Manning each have had off-weeks, but White has put up points every week (especially in PPR).

[Smileseers 54]

I think that you need to wait until the end of the year because it takes a whole season of stats to look back and judge who proved to be studs and who didn't.

[pimptastic69 0]

I think that you need to wait until the end of the year because it takes a whole season of stats to look back and judge who proved to be studs and who didn't.

 

 

That would be a sound strategy,............if drafts were held when the season was over.

[TD Ryan2 316]

(especially in PPR).

 

good point.

I didn't consider ppr.

[Bears_Rule 0]

Now that all of the studs are gone can we stop saying "don't bench your studs"?

 

Worst logic ever.

[kmbryant09 1]

Your list has some good picks I'd argue against others:

 

- Wayne has a whopping TWO TD's this year through 6 games. Not a stud.

- Gore has 3 total TDs this year in 7 games. Not a stud.

- Boldin started slow but has caught on recently.

 

Just saying - a lot of the guys you listed in both categories have similar stats to no-name guys. There IS a stud shortage this year.

It's a valid argument. But I'd argue that both Gore and Wayne are top 6 at their position (per game) DESPITE not scoring many TD's. It's hard to envision Wayne only scoring every 3 games for the rest of the season, same with Gore.

 

Wayne will receive more attention from the DEF's, but he should be targeted much more, now that Clark is gone for the season and Collie will miss a month. And they have great matchups - you would absolutely NEVER bench him. Same with Gore, he's been a yardage MACHINE, and has caught a ton of passes.

 

I agree Boldin probably should have been a 'borderline' guy though.

 

The number two scoring RB in my league is Darren McFadden, and he's missed two games. He's in the stud column, as hard to believe that is.

Darren McFadden is #2 in your league because he's coming off a 40+ point week. Kenny Britt is the #3 WR in my league, doesn't make him a 'stud'.

 

Studs need to be players that you wouldn't even think of benching, regardless of matchup. The 'borderline' guys are players that only get benched because of slight injuries, or a combination of a terrible matchup and a bench player with a tasty matchuop. I don't think McFadden belongs in the "never think of benching" category.

[Matt Mueller 146]

I can say for sure Peyton/White/Foster.

 

I'm leading my league in points-wins because of this trifecta.

[bonkbonk 5]

Steven Jackson

[murf74 461]

Honestly it's ruining fantasy football....it's more pot luck than ever. I am totally convinced to not draft a WR until after my starting TE is picked and backup RBs are all filled.

 

 

You can get better production from late rounders and free agents than sit with guys like Miles Austin (3 games with less than 40 yards) in my starting lineup. Or Randy Moss and his 30 yards and a TD. I can get that kind of production off waivers every week or off guys cut prematurely,

[We Tigers 71]

Honestly it's ruining fantasy football....it's more pot luck than ever. I am totally convinced to not draft a WR until after my starting TE is picked and backup RBs are all filled.

 

 

You can get better production from late rounders and free agents than sit with guys like Miles Austin (3 games with less than 40 yards) in my starting lineup. Or Randy Moss and his 30 yards and a TD. I can get that kind of production off waivers every week or off guys cut prematurely,

What position can this not be said about?

 

The standards some are establishing for "studs" are a little ridiculous. If you didn't think Roddy White was an every-week-start stud before last week, I don't know who you think is. This perception that there are tons of receivers and RBs who always give you 100 and a TD AND sometimes blow up for multi-TD games is one of the most puzzling things to persist about fantasy football. If the argument is "I'll always consider benching somebody," then all right, I'm with you.

[justforbeer 41]

RODDY WHITE IS A CLEAR STUD AND THE SAFEST BET FOR A WR.

DJAX WAS A STUD UNTIL HE GOT HURT.

 

THE WR LIST IS A MESS THIS YEAR. USUALLY YOU CAN PREDICT THE TOP 10 BUT THIS YEAR IS RIDICULOUS! HECK EVEN THE NY GIANTS DONT KNOW WHO THEIR #1 WR IS...LAST YEAR SMITH NOW NICKS!

 

CJ, AD WERE CLEAR 1 & 2 IN DRAFTS AND THEY ARE SOLID STUDS.

 

QB'S ARE A MESS AS SOME THE THE TOP GUYS HAVE NOT PLAYED AS WELL....ROGERS/SCHAUB/BRADY/BREES.

[kartaron 0]

Part of being a stud (in my opinion) is not only not getting good numbers week to week, but not getting bad numbers, especially as a pattern. Setting the bar at a 7pt minimum leaves out every WR but Wayne and White, ... but Foster, Peterson, Gore and McFadden (if injury doesnt count)Hillis, LT, Bradshaw and Jackson are all in that group. Bradshaw and Jackson both have only one game over 15 so that could exclude them.

 

Peyton

Rogers

Rivers

Wayne

White

Foster

Peterson

Gore

McFadden

Hillis

LT

 

looks like a reliable list to me, and unusually small. 3wr sets and split backfields are really messing with the elites.

 

CJ has had 2, 4 and 6 point weeks against teams like Philly and Denver. Having him means you likly have a team thats 4-2 but #1 in points. I hate frustration like that. Glad I dont have him this year.

[Bears_Rule 0]

Honestly it's ruining fantasy football....it's more pot luck than ever. I am totally convinced to not draft a WR until after my starting TE is picked and backup RBs are all filled.

 

 

You can get better production from late rounders and free agents than sit with guys like Miles Austin (3 games with less than 40 yards) in my starting lineup. Or Randy Moss and his 30 yards and a TD. I can get that kind of production off waivers every week or off guys cut prematurely,

 

 

I'm sorry but I disagree completely. I think its making FF more interesting than ever. To win competitive leagues you have to go beyond website predictions and evaluate talent faster. You need to cut bait on players that won't work faster. And most importantly you need to be preparing your roster for scheduling changes. I'll give you some examples from my league this year that I believe makes this case:

 

I added Brandon Lloyd in August watching a pre-season game.

I added Peyton Hillis in August during the Browns 3rd pre-season game.

I added Ryan Torain the day he was signed off the practice squad before he ever took a snap as a Redskin.

I added Big Mike Williams in August during the Seahawks 2nd pre-season game.

I added Michael Hoomanawanui last week knowing how much Sam Bradford loves him (he's going to be a beast during the FF playoffs)

I held Fred Jackson the whole year knowing he'd eventually win the job after watching CJ Spiller look like a dumb rookie who can't pick up a blitz at any time during the pre-season.

 

You have to think of the whole dynamics...who is tops in the league in pass attempts? What is the base offensive package the team runs?

 

 

No I don't think you'll be able to just draft "studs" and win competitive leagues. And cheers to that! That would be a stupid game to play....

[Matt Mueller 146]

I'm sorry but I disagree completely. I think its making FF more interesting than ever. To win competitive leagues you have to go beyond website predictions and evaluate talent faster. You need to cut bait on players that won't work faster. And most importantly you need to be preparing your roster for scheduling changes. I'll give you some examples from my league this year that I believe makes this case:

 

I added Brandon Lloyd in August watching a pre-season game.

I added Peyton Hillis in August during the Browns 3rd pre-season game.

I added Ryan Torain the day he was signed off the practice squad before he ever took a snap as a Redskin.

I added Big Mike Williams in August during the Seahawks 2nd pre-season game.

I added Michael Hoomanawanui last week knowing how much Sam Bradford loves him (he's going to be a beast during the FF playoffs)

I held Fred Jackson the whole year knowing he'd eventually win the job after watching CJ Spiller look like a dumb rookie who can't pick up a blitz at any time during the pre-season.

 

You have to think of the whole dynamics...who is tops in the league in pass attempts? What is the base offensive package the team runs?

 

 

No I don't think you'll be able to just draft "studs" and win competitive leagues. And cheers to that! That would be a stupid game to play....

 

What's your record?

 

If you added Lloyd and Hillis in the preseason, when did you have your draft?

 

Also how many roster spots are in your league? That's like half a team.

[Bears_Rule 0]

What's your record?

 

If you added Lloyd and Hillis in the preseason, when did you have your draft?

 

Also how many roster spots are in your league? That's like half a team.

 

6-1 2nd in the league in total points.

 

14 man league 16 roster spots no kicker or defense. Start 8 total QB,RB,RB,RB/WR,WR,WR,WR/TE,TE and then 8 bench.

 

My squad:

 

QB

 

Orton

Cutler

Stafford

 

RB

 

Gore

Forte

Hillis

F. Jackson

R. Torain

 

WR

 

Wayne

Lloyd

OchoCinco

R. White

Big Mike

J. Knox

 

 

TE

 

M. Hoomanawanui

A. Hernandez

 

 

Now I know that's a deeper bench than most leagues. The point doesn't have anything to do with my team or the specifics of a league. I've believed for a long time that as information gets put out there faster, as fantasy football gets bigger and more competitive that the game will become more difficult. Considering how the league dynamics are changing (more RBBC's, more spread offenses, head coaches moving guys in and out faster) the things we're seeing lately will only get bigger. And I love it! Bring on the complexity...that's what makes this more chess than random luck. Say what you will....but for me simply drafting a nice team of big names and setting your lineup every week is boring. League rules, structure and dynamics should force action and decision making.

[Matt Mueller 146]

6-1 2nd in the league in total points.

 

14 man league 16 roster spots no kicker or defense. Start 8 total QB,RB,RB,RB/WR,WR,WR,WR/TE,TE and then 8 bench.

 

My squad:

 

QB

 

Orton

Cutler

Stafford

 

RB

 

Gore

Forte

Hillis

F. Jackson

R. Torain

 

WR

 

Wayne

Lloyd

OchoCinco

R. White

Big Mike

J. Knox

 

 

TE

 

M. Hoomanawanui

A. Hernandez

 

 

Now I know that's a deeper bench than most leagues. The point doesn't have anything to do with my team or the specifics of a league. I've believed for a long time that as information gets put out there faster, as fantasy football gets bigger and more competitive that the game will become more difficult. Considering how the league dynamics are changing (more RBBC's, more spread offenses, head coaches moving guys in and out faster) the things we're seeing lately will only get bigger. And I love it! Bring on the complexity...that's what makes this more chess than random luck. Say what you will....but for me simply drafting a nice team of big names and setting your lineup every week is boring. League rules, structure and dynamics should force action and decision making.

 

Nice man!! I'm totally with you. The good owners will rise to the top.

[GMENMANIA 0]

Now I know that's a deeper bench than most leagues. The point doesn't have anything to do with my team or the specifics of a league. I've believed for a long time that as information gets put out there faster, as fantasy football gets bigger and more competitive that the game will become more difficult. Considering how the league dynamics are changing (more RBBC's, more spread offenses, head coaches moving guys in and out faster) the things we're seeing lately will only get bigger. And I love it! Bring on the complexity...that's what makes this more chess than random luck. Say what you will....but for me simply drafting a nice team of big names and setting your lineup every week is boring. League rules, structure and dynamics should force action and decision making.

 

Amen to that. Nice team, btw. You should try to offload depth for talent if there are still any intriguing names on waivers (i.e. Blount, Starks, Ben Watson, etc. I'm sure that even in such a deep league there are at least a couple of intriguing guys).

 

I'm #2 in total points in my 10 team PPR league, but am only 4-3. I'm also going up against the first and third highest scoring teams over the next two weeks :\

 

 

As for studs, McFadden has to be on the RB list. He's the highest scoring RB per game he's played and if you've watched even a couple of them he looks like a beast. I'd highly recommend getting M. Bush to back him up tho. Also, Roddy White > Andre Johnson > > > Kenny Britt this year. Once Owen Daniels knee heals up, he'll free things up for AJ to move back to the top spot.

[eddude119 0]

Part of being a stud (in my opinion) is not only not getting good numbers week to week, but not getting bad numbers, especially as a pattern. Setting the bar at a 7pt minimum leaves out every WR but Wayne and White, ... but Foster, Peterson, Gore and McFadden (if injury doesnt count)Hillis, LT, Bradshaw and Jackson are all in that group. Bradshaw and Jackson both have only one game over 15 so that could exclude them.

 

Peyton

Rogers

Rivers

Wayne

White

Foster

Peterson

Gore

McFadden

Hillis

LT

 

looks like a reliable list to me, and unusually small. 3wr sets and split backfields are really messing with the elites.

 

CJ has had 2, 4 and 6 point weeks against teams like Philly and Denver. Having him means you likly have a team thats 4-2 but #1 in points. I hate frustration like that. Glad I dont have him this year.

 

while i understand ur point i have to disagree...ur saying by your standards peyton hillis is elite and cj is not and you are glad you dont own cj2k this year. i would gladly trade you my hillis straight up for your johnson and laugh my way to the championship

[GMENMANIA 0]

If I had CJ2K, I'd trade him for Run DMC and then make sure I spooned the tradee and bought him/her lunch the next day. McFadden is a STUD.

[pimptastic69 0]

i would gladly trade you my hillis straight up for your johnson

 

 

This is a family oriented site. Keep your trash in the can.

[GMENMANIA 0]

 

This is a family oriented site. Keep your trash in the can.

 

LOL, that's classic.

[Melissa Stark 1]

kmbryant09 > decent assessment.

The overall stud status seems in decline compared to other years.

[SUXBNME 1,499]

<---- Perennial stud

 

(just ask your mom)