Frank Gore/Sjax/Fotre

[Urlacher54 0]

Gore:

 

Pros: Raw Talent, Great Pass Catcher, Always finds a way to get yards so has a decent floor. Workhorse, Offensive Centerpiece, Legit shot at being a top 5 RB if heathly. Has the "Veteran Edge" In a lockout.

 

Cons: Played one 16 game season and that was 2006, Coming off hip surgery. Broke 1200 rush yards once in his career, Double Digit TDs, once in his career, Will often face 8 man fronts.

 

Forte:

 

Pros: Versatile, Plenty of †ouches, durable, Young, Great PAss catcher, Always heavily involved with offense regardless of passing or running. Averaged 4.5 YPC despite playing behind the worst O-line in football, Cutler is not elite but good enough to stay clear of 8 man fronts. Expected increase in touches. Ovbiously we saw what MIke Martz did to MArshall Faulk.

 

Cons: plays behind the worst O-line in football, Allthough productive, Has never had a monster season like SJAX or Gore have

 

SJax:

 

Pros: Workhorse, Erased durability concerns, Rams give him every touch they can. A prime 27 years old. Finally has help an offense that is capable of opening up some fronts. A warrior (not really sure how else to put it) Has broke 1,000 yards rushing for 6 straight seasons. Has the "Veteran Edge" In a lockout.

 

Cons: Avg less than 4 YPC for the first time since becoming a starter last year, talks of getting a partner in the backfield. So threat of losing touches, High mileage

 

So how would rank these guys an where would you draft them?

[Fantasy Noob 10]

I view all of them as decent #2 RB's but I would hate to have any of them as my #1 RB.

 

Gore, Forte, Sjax in PPR leagues

Gore, Sjax, Forte in traditional leagues

 

Gore is going to get more points (best upside of the three) but is unlikely to make it through the full season, you can hope he is healthy come playoff time but its a risk.

Forte, I really like this kid and his chances but he so far has been in the 10-20RB range. A sneaky value in PPR leagues. They did address that O-line so I am hopeful.

Sjax he just looks old to me, 27 was a suprise, I am afraid he has absorbed too much abuse, I think he has maybe 1 or 2 more decent years left but not much upside left in my opinion.

[Bears_Rule 0]

I'll bite.

 

I would pick Forte > SJAX > Gore if it was a PPR league. Forte is younger, hasn't had durability issues and still has great numbers. In a non-PPR league I'd definitely drop him below the others because Forte just doesn't finish at the goal line. Gore makes me nervous this year. His production has steadily declined year over year and is coming off a broken hip. He's a beast and all 3 of these guys have the opportunity/talent to be a top 10 RB but for the safety side of the pick I like Forte.

 

SJAX over Gore for me because I'm bullish on the Rams offense with Josh McD and Sam Bradford's golden arm.

[Phurfur 70]

Forte, SJax, Gore = PPR

[Cstriker 2]

12 team standard league

 

Top to mid of round 3 for Gore

Mid to late round 3 for Sjax

Late to early round 4 for Forte

 

 

 

12 team ppr

 

Late 2nd to mid of round 3 for forte

Same for gore

Mid to late round 3 for Sjax.

 

 

Thats where i see value. Any higher they are too expensive imo.

[Fantasy Noob 10]

I am a fan of Forte in PPR and last year I got him consistently in the fourth round which is great value for that format. Forte is relatively consistent and makes it through the season which in my mind makes him a top tier #2 RB in ppr format. He just never seems to generate those explosive weeks which seems odd almost every starting RB has at least 1 week a year were we all wish we had them on our roster or pray our opponent doesn't.

 

Kind of suprised no one ranks Gore higher, last year through week 10 in my PPR leagues he was a top 3 overall scorer. Is that a fair trade off for a player that is unlikely to finish the season? I have to say yes, his handcuff should come cheap, he is a 2nd rounder or later with top 5 overall potential and he gets you too the playoffs which is over half the battle in FF. People are overlooking he has been the entire 49er offense which is a pretty sizeable amount of FF points by itself. Hopefully a competent head coach gets him some rest and evens out the offensive play calling. He is a flat out beast in PPR format the problem is simply his injury history and the worry you won't have him when it counts most, they playoffs. The team is pretty loaded on offense they just can't seem to get even half way decent QB play.

 

Hypothetically speaking a team of White (1st), Jennings (2nd), Gore (3rd), Forte (4th) would actually be scary good in ppr.

 

It looks to me like Sjax has gotten very slow out there, he reminds me of Eddie George with the Titans towards the end of his career. He just seems slow and overpriced draft position wise for the last couple years. I think the third round is fair but he consistently has gone in the 1st and 2nd the last couple years. I am not buying the Josh McDaniels hype either, it maybe good for the WR's but I dont remember his RB's ever lighting the league on fire. It actually could be a bad fit, St. Louis arguably should use Sjax more and McD will want to throw to the WR corp which is a relative weakness on that team.

[WhiteWonder 2,928]

if we take out injury history i rank them as follows

 

Gore>> SJax > Forte honestly thats for standard or PPR.

 

but i understand shying away from Gore due to his propensity for injury. Jackson has erased those concerns by now and his team is only getting better.

 

i dont think Chicago has done enough to improve that offensive line so i'll put Forte at the back of this pack.

 

I would love to pair one of the top 4-5 RB's with Jackson on the way back in round 2. Then go after my WR's.

[WhiteWonder 2,928]

12 team standard league

 

Top to mid of round 3 for Gore

Mid to late round 3 for Sjax

Late to early round 4 for Forte

 

 

 

12 team ppr

 

Late 2nd to mid of round 3 for forte

Same for gore

Mid to late round 3 for Sjax.

 

 

Thats where i see value. Any higher they are too expensive imo.

 

unfortunately you'll never sniff Gore that late. when healthy, he is a first half of round 1 type player. Knowing his injury history, people will still pluck him up by middle round 2 at the latest due to his potential to be a beast.

[stonewall 647]

Gotta break with the crowd on this one.

 

For me it is Forte>Gore>SJax in standard redrafts. Of this group, Forte has the most potential for that "breakout" season......although 1,600 scrimmage yards and 9 TD's last season ain't nothing to sneeze at (including 160 yards and a touch in week 16 when it counts, against the Jets, no less). At 218 lbs, he has the bulk to move the pile at the goal line, and this is where he needs the most improvement to be a true superstar.....the hands, eyes, and open field running are already there. With even a slight improvement in that dismal o-line, he will shine bright.

 

Gore and SJax just seem like warriors on the decline, as opposed to Forte who is poised to make that next step. When you consider Fortes ADP as compared to Gore and SJax, the choice seems clear to me.

[prancers 0]

Assuming its a re-draft league with PPR....

 

I like Gore the most. He's a guy I'd take in the 10-14 range, late 1st/early 2nd round. As mentioned, you can grab Hunter really late as a handcuff and get production if Gore misses time.

 

Forte is really solid. Not huge upside but as safe as you can get outside of the top 5. I definitely think he's a 2nd rounder. Probably in the 14-18 range overall.

 

SJax is a really interesting case and I think much of his PPR value will be determined by what St. Louis does in FA. I think there's a decent chance they grab a guy like Darren Sproles or Reggie Bush, in which case SJax is just a 3rd rounder in my opinion (same tier as Blount, Stewart, Matthews, etc.) as he'll be mostly a 2 down back for the first time in his career. If they don't sign a top 3rd down back, then SJax is a solid early to mid-2nd rounder in the same tier as Forte and just a little behind Gore. He has some upside because he should be healthier than last year and the STL offense could be much improved.

 

 

I'd also add that I like the idea of the old fashioned RB-RB this year (I've been going RB-WR-WR the last few years) if you can get one of the top guys and one of the 3 guys you list. I think it makes sense to load up on WRs in the mid-rounds as I think there are a ton of guys with a lot of upside you can grab a bit later (Sydney Rice, Austin Collie, Brandon Lloyd, etc.).

[el_duderino 0]

In a PPR redraft I took MJD over all of the above at 1.12 and then Forte at 1.17 over SJAX (GOre was off the board at 1.13).

 

I love Gore's talent. Don't trust his durability or a new offensive scheme that won't have time to be installed fully. He's a beast and I can't say anything bad about him. I took Forte over SJAX simply because he'll score more points in a PPR system. I like Forte's upside more and CHI isn't going to bring in a back in FA. Bank on that...no way after paying Chester Taylor to come in and stink it up do they pony up for another change of pace back. IF anything they'd grab a WR for the offensive side of the ball.

 

In my estimation, none of the 3 RB's are going to kill you if you take them. Split hairs about why you like this one or that one but Give me any of them over a QB in the 1st or 2nd and in a PPR probably over most receivers except maybe Calvin, Andre and Roddy.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

I'm staying away from Gore and especially SJax this year.

 

SJax had probably his worse year since '05 in terms of actual production last year. And he's average 291 carries pear year over the past six seasons, so I don't see him rebounding. I expect that he will continue to decline even though he isn't that old. He's just taken too many hits playing on too many crappy teams. Yes the Rams might be on the upswing but unfortunately I don't think SJax will get swept up in the rising tide.

 

Frank Gore has considerably less mileage than SJax, but that's because he's frequently injured. Maybe he bounces back next year and plays a full slate of games, but I really doubt that when he's coming back from a season ending hip injury. Hip injuries are no joke, especially to a guy who has proven to be less than durable in the past. Gore has been great (when healthy) but eventually those knee and hip injuries are going to catch up to him. I'm not going to bet that he has another season in him before that happens.

 

So that leaves Forte. There is every reason to believe that he will do just as well as he did in 2010 and possibly much better. You certainly can't say that for the other two guys.

[De Novo 0]

I'm staying away from Gore and especially SJax this year.

 

SJax had probably his worse year since '05 in terms of actual production last year. And he's average 291 carries pear year over the past six seasons, so I don't see him rebounding. I expect that he will continue to decline even though he isn't that old. He's just taken too many hits playing on too many crappy teams. Yes the Rams might be on the upswing but unfortunately I don't think SJax will get swept up in the rising tide.

 

Frank Gore has considerably less mileage than SJax, but that's because he's frequently injured. Maybe he bounces back next year and plays a full slate of games, but I really doubt that when he's coming back from a season ending hip injury. Hip injuries are no joke, especially to a guy who has proven to be less than durable in the past. Gore has been great (when healthy) but eventually those knee and hip injuries are going to catch up to him. I'm not going to bet that he has another season in him before that happens.

 

So that leaves Forte. There is every reason to believe that he will do just as well as he did in 2010 and possibly much better. You certainly can't say that for the other two guys.

What he said. SJax has been on a steady decline and this or next year will be falling off the cliff.

 

Gore has had injury after injury and I have little faith in him staying healthy. Even when healthy, he has been very good but never a top-flight #1 RB.

 

Still, Forte put up a real stinker 2 years ago. So, there's that. I look more towards last year and possibly outproducing that.

 

With that said, I basically have Gore (#15 overall) and Forte (#17 overall) on the same level, with Turner as my #31 overall player.