Chris Johnson

[IGotWorms 4,063]

I personally doubt that the Titans will refuse to pay Chris Johnson. He clearly deserves a huge pay raise and without him they really have nothing to build their offense around right now. Not to mention the fact that they will need him to take the pressure off of Jake Locker when he takes over the helm at QB.

 

But if I'm drafting in the top 6, maybe I'm a little nervous about taking CJ, just in case this holdout ends up going in to the regular season.

 

So if you were drafting today, at what point would you not hesitate to take him? Would you take him in the top 5? Top 8? End of the first round?

[TheBlade 3]

This may not be a popular opinion, but if he's not inked to a deal by the time I draft, I don't take a chance on him until I have a solid RB1 locked up, and maybe not then depending on who else is available at other positions. That means I won't even consider him until round 2, and may pass on him there.

 

I realize that I may miss on a steal, but I don't like taking those types of chances in the very early rounds. A blown pick there can devastate your season.

 

I'm sure others will disagree, but that's just my opinion.

[JagFan 195]

I am getting more concerned every day that goes by without him in camp. You have a new coaching staff, and a new QB. In a season where there was no offseason preparation up to training camp, I think we are already in for some really sloppy football early on...especially for teams like this. That makes every day crucial right now, and he is missing badly needed work with his team.

[ricanrockers 39]

From past history, players that holdout and/or sign late in preseason always seem to get hurt or have a season filled with minor ailments. I tend to pass on these players. It's too much of a headache for me!

[Portis26 0]

drafting him top 3 with confidence. If my draft is the Sunday before the season opener, and he still isn't signed I'd probably take him late first round instead of top 3.

 

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[Frozenbeernuts 2,417]

The titans promised to pay him this year but so far they are low balling him to around 3.5 mill. He will not accept that deal probably so its still going to take some time. I see a tight hammy in his future that will linger through the season and will prob lead to a few games missed. I am down on AP for his adp also so im not sure yet if i will pass on both if i have a top pick. I still may not be able to risist the trememdous upside they both bring.

[ampheels 3]

consensus top 2 is AD and Foster...after that you can justify taking anyone from the CJ/Charles/Ray Rice trio- personally i prefer CJ to both Charles(fantasy schedule & thomas jones/todd haley) and Rice (ricky williams vulturing a half dozen scores)

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

I won't own him.

[DexterMorgan 5]

I won't own him.

 

This. I'd consider taking him at 11 or 12 if I had a pick there.

[msudavedawg 5]

Not exactly the same but I can't help thinking back tot he whole Vincent Jackson thing from last season. They were saying on ESPN that a season long holdout is not out of the question. He would be giving up $900,000. Someone is going to pay him 20-30 million whether it's the Titans or another team. If he blows his knee out this season without a new contract in place he would be screwed.

[jerryskids 7,162]

I just passed on him at #6 in a PPR which favors WRs, for Andre Johnson. I struggled with the decision but in the end, when I'm already thinking about when to handcuff my top pick, that doesn't leave me all warm and fuzzy inside.

 

I'd maybe take a chance on him there in non-PPR, but in PPR, I'd place him around the turn coupled with a top-tier WR. That is a risk worth taking IMO.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

Not exactly the same but I can't help thinking back tot he whole Vincent Jackson thing from last season. They were saying on ESPN that a season long holdout is not out of the question. He would be giving up $900,000. Someone is going to pay him 20-30 million whether it's the Titans or another team. If he blows his knee out this season without a new contract in place he would be screwed.

Yes, I've read arguments stating it makes more sense for Johnson to sit through week 10 than to play. It sounds like it's up to Tennessee to budge here because it may not make sense for Johnson to do it.

 

Maybe I can get Chris Johnson in the 12th round, the same spot I got V Jax last year.

[DexterMorgan 5]

Yes, I've read arguments stating it makes more sense for Johnson to sit through week 10 than to play. It sounds like it's up to Tennessee to budge here because it may not make sense for Johnson to do it.

 

Maybe I can get Chris Johnson in the 12th round, the same spot I got V Jax last year.

 

There is no reason for CJ to play (before week 10) at his currently salary IMO. With how short the careers are of RBs in the NFL you need to get paid when you can.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

The titans promised to pay him this year but so far they are low balling him to around 3.5 mill. He will not accept that deal probably so its still going to take some time. I see a tight hammy in his future that will linger through the season and will prob lead to a few games missed. I am down on AP for his adp also so im not sure yet if i will pass on both if i have a top pick. I still may not be able to risist the trememdous upside they both bring.

 

As a titans homer, there is a lot of misinformation in this thread.

 

1. 3.5 mill? I've been listening to Nashville talk radio every day, and this has not been mentioned at all, so I doubt it.

 

2. CJ held out last year and was fine.

 

3. CJ is, from all accounts, in great shape.

 

4. The Titans will get a deal done, probably around the 3rd preseason game at the latest.

 

5. With Hass replacing VY, I predict better passing to take pressure of CJ, and him having a great year.

 

6. From what I hear on the radio, if he holds out past a certain preseason date, he loses a year toward FA. He won't do that.

 

After daily monitoring of the situation on daily talk radio, I have CJ and AP as interchangeable for the #1 pick. I pick #4 in my league, and have already preset him to #2. If I get him at 4, I will be thrilled. I'm quite comfortable betting my FF season that he will play.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

6. From what I hear on the radio, if he holds out past a certain preseason date, he loses a year toward FA. He won't do that.

 

That date has passed--Chris Johnson already lost a year towards unrestricted free agency under the terms of the new CBA. http://www.nfl.com/trainingcamp/story/09000d5d8215934d/article/johnsons-holdout-from-titans-now-12-days-and-counting

 

So at this point, Chris Johnson WILL sit out the whole season unless Tennessee pays him. Are you confident that the Titans are going to make him a reasonable offer before the season starts?

[DexterMorgan 5]

That date has passed--Chris Johnson already lost a year towards unrestricted free agency under the terms of the new CBA. http://www.nfl.com/trainingcamp/story/09000d5d8215934d/article/johnsons-holdout-from-titans-now-12-days-and-counting

 

So at this point, Chris Johnson WILL sit out the whole season unless Tennessee pays him. Are you confident that the Titans are going to make him a reasonable offer before the season starts?

 

For some reason I thought there were 2 dates and week 10 still meant something.

[ampheels 3]

i'm confident that TN will make him a more than reasonable offer, the titans would be one of the worst 3 teams in the league this year (bengals/panthers) without CJ..not re-upping CJ's deal would be sending a terrible message to the fan base, he's 25 years old with only 3 nfl seasons (worst being 1,500 total yards and 10 scores) of mileage on his body...

 

i would expect something to be done shortly after the 2nd preseason game as the titans start to figure out what the 53 man roster will look like and whether or not guys like chris hope and nate washington (due over 10 million combined this upcoming season) will be in a titans uniform next season...the titans should have plenty of available space to give CJ a deal with 25-30 million in guaranteed $$

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

Things may be looking up for Chris

 

Titans GM Mike Reinfeldt said Thursday that he's ready to make Chris Johnson the highest-paid running back in the NFL.

Johnson's agent was the first person Reinfeldt called when the lockout was lifted, and the sides have already discussed the parameters of a new deal. Reinfeldt reiterated, however, that CJ2K must show up to training camp to finalize the extension. The Titans want him in as soon as possible to pick up Chris Palmer's new offense. It remains to be seen if the Titans' offer meets Johnson's "history-making" expectations.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,417]

As a titans homer, there is a lot of misinformation in this thread.

 

1. 3.5 mill? I've been listening to Nashville talk radio every day, and this has not been mentioned at all, so I doubt it.

 

2. CJ held out last year and was fine.

 

3. CJ is, from all accounts, in great shape.

 

4. The Titans will get a deal done, probably around the 3rd preseason game at the latest.

 

5. With Hass replacing VY, I predict better passing to take pressure of CJ, and him having a great year.

 

6. From what I hear on the radio, if he holds out past a certain preseason date, he loses a year toward FA. He won't do that.

 

After daily monitoring of the situation on daily talk radio, I have CJ and AP as interchangeable for the #1 pick. I pick #4 in my league, and have already preset him to #2. If I get him at 4, I will be thrilled. I'm quite comfortable betting my FF season that he will play.

 

3.5 was the number i heard but i guess that was wrong. As far as him holding out last year he is NOT playing without a new deal. Who is Haas? Which is why defenses will still stak the box. A contract is good for how many years agreed upon. Its a year toward unrestricted freeagency which it doeant matter if he is restricted or unrestricted because he just wants to get paid. If you miss a year, even if you hold out and dont get paid, it still counts as a year on the contract.

[pee-diddy 27]

I will not be drafting CJ either. If TENN puts a young QB in there at some point later this season when thins really get down to the wire in FF, teams will stack the box versus CJ and that would be the suck. Plus, I have this feeling that CJ will get paid and take the season off a la Larry Johnson. Not fair to compare, I know. I just have a bad feeling about CJ this season. I'd take ADP or even Ray Rice before I'd take CJ.

[jocstrap 8]

(FFChamps) Tennessee GM Mike Reinfeldt said he is ready to make the disgruntled Chris Johnson the highest-paid running back in the NFL, according to the Associated Press. Analysis: The Titans and Johnsons rep are believed to be discussing the details of a new contract, and it sounds like the young stud may be close to ending his holdout if the deal is financially to his liking. While Johnson will be a risky fantasy pick until he actually reports to camp, we do feel confident about targeting him at the top of early fantasy drafts.

 

 

looking better!

 

From a ff perspective - I have no problem with teams stacking 8 men in the box - hello long td runs once he breaks through the first wave! Nate Washington is fast enough to still burn teams deep if he could only hold on to the damn ball. Kenny Britt is stud in the making which gives this offense 2 solid Wr's. Hassabadback should be effective enough to keep defenses honest if 8 men crowd the line.

[DexterMorgan 5]

(FFChamps) Tennessee GM Mike Reinfeldt said he is ready to make the disgruntled Chris Johnson the highest-paid running back in the NFL, according to the Associated Press. Analysis: The Titans and Johnsons rep are believed to be discussing the details of a new contract, and it sounds like the young stud may be close to ending his holdout if the deal is financially to his liking. While Johnson will be a risky fantasy pick until he actually reports to camp, we do feel confident about targeting him at the top of early fantasy drafts.

 

 

 

 

FWIW Heard on mike and mike this morning that Chris Johnson said that neither him nor his agent had been told this.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

I will not be drafting CJ either. If TENN puts a young QB in there at some point later this season when thins really get down to the wire in FF, teams will stack the box versus CJ and that would be the suck. Plus, I have this feeling that CJ will get paid and take the season off a la Larry Johnson. Not fair to compare, I know. I just have a bad feeling about CJ this season. I'd take ADP or even Ray Rice before I'd take CJ.

 

Stacking the box?

 

And that would be different from the Vince Young/Kerry Collins era how exactly? Chris Johnson never sees less than 8 in the box. Ever.

 

Actually, I have hopes that hass can open it up more. And if/when they put locker in, his wheels will keep the D honest just like VY's did, and its not like he can be much more inaccurate than VY was!

[Franknbeans 46]

I just took him at #1 overall.

[NorthernVike 2,100]

I just took him at #1 overall.

Good luck with that. I've just moved him down to #6 on my own list of RBs. And if this goes another week, well he may find himself out of my top 10 and prolly on my DND list.

 

 

I really hate this hold out crap. Every year it seems on of these guys do this and it hurts them bigtime as far as fantasy production goes.

[Kent 228]

Its really bizarre that the GM has said if he comes to camp they'll make him the highest paid RB.

 

Why does he have to be in camp for that decision.

 

Just send him the contract and deposit a check.

 

Sound like they are buying time. Really odd.

[plasma george 63]

Its really bizarre that the GM has said if he comes to camp they'll make him the highest paid RB.

 

Why does he have to be in camp for that decision.

 

Just send him the contract and deposit a check.

 

Sound like they are buying time. Really odd.

Desean Jasckson reported being the 27th highest paid Eagle at abuot $565,000 this year. I'm sure that was from Drew Rosenhaus, one of the most seasoned agents out there, knowing how to play the games. Desean is now looking for the Eagles to put the contract in place, we'll see. (I think he had to report though, or lose a year towards FA, may be a bit different siuatio than CJs)

 

The dude that took CJ #1, what's your Entry Fee in that league ?

Wonder if it's a $50 work league, etc, more for fun.

[Skinny_Bastard 159]

I'm going to get flame for this but...

 

Why do the Titans need CJ?

TEN aren't going to the playoffs with or without him.

TEN are years away from being a Superbowl contender.

With the shelf life of an NFL running back to be so low, why not trade his ass and get a bunch of draft picks.

[PackYourNut 47]

They will get a deal done... I hope he falls to me at 7... i would take him in a heartbeat... just snag Ringer late.

[NorthernVike 2,100]

I'm going to get flame for this but...

 

Why do the Titans need CJ?

TEN aren't going to the playoffs with or without him.

TEN are years away from being a Superbowl contender.

With the shelf life of an NFL running back to be so low, why not trade his ass and get a bunch of draft picks.

 

 

The same argument can be made for the Vikes and Peterson.

 

From a fan perspective it would suck for this year but would do wonders for the future if you could get a ton for them.

[DexterMorgan 5]

Adam Schefter reiterated this morning on Mike and Mike that CJ has not been offered a contract.

[Skinny_Bastard 159]

The same argument can be made for the Vikes and Peterson.

 

From a fan perspective it would suck for this year but would do wonders for the future if you could get a ton for them.

 

Yes, but the Vikes already committed to ADP. Most of these contracts are front loaded.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

I'm going to get flame for this but...

 

Why do the Titans need CJ?

TEN aren't going to the playoffs with or without him.

TEN are years away from being a Superbowl contender.

With the shelf life of an NFL running back to be so low, why not trade his ass and get a bunch of draft picks.

 

I think that's pretty solid reasoning and could explain why a deal hasn't been done yet.

 

I will say this though: if you're a Titans fan, and the Titans don't pony up some money for Chris Johnson, aren't you pretty pissed that you have to watch a sh!tty team all year without one decent player to root for? Chris Johnson puts butts in the seats.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

According to Nashville radio, CJ's camp now says they don't want just top RB money, they want "top five playmaker money."

[IGotWorms 4,063]

I heard he wants at least $30 million guaranteed. That sounds like a lot but when you consider that DeAngelo Williams got more than $20 million guaranteed, maybe it's not so off the wall.

[jgcrawfish 232]

Rotoworld is saying it's 13m a year. At this point, I'll tell him the same thing his GM is going to tell him...mainly, go fock yourself Chris.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

Rotoworld is saying it's 13m a year. At this point, I'll tell him the same thing his GM is going to tell him...mainly, go fock yourself Chris.

 

How much would you pay him? Five years for sixty million sounds about right to me...that's $12 million per. Am I being too generous?

[Gladiators 2,035]

I haven't seen any film of Ringer...Any idea whether he would be worth a late round flyer?

[IGotWorms 4,063]

With this new info, if I was drafting today I probably wouldn't take Chris Johnson until the end of the first or the early second round. I still think he is going to get his contract with the Titans but I've gone from 99% sure to about 80% sure.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

I haven't seen any film of Ringer...Any idea whether he would be worth a late round flyer?

 

I've seen every pro carry he's ever taken. He's no CJ, but he'd be allright. The titans have a great line. He catches the ball better than CJ does. I'm definately going to take him late as a cuff (unless one of my dooshbag leaguemates reads this and tries to swoop on him).

 

I'd say ringer playing the full season would probably be at least a low level RB2. Of course, they would probably platoon him more than they would CJ with the big rookie back they got.