nikki2200 4 Posted February 15, 2012 I'm not playing the discount thread game :whispers: Maggie Thatcher was a staunch conservative, and never said that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted February 15, 2012 More the pathetic "nikkee do what I do see it omg you should do it too nikkkeeee its wicked super fun time" That's the wow Bubbles is always, ALWAYS, slow on the uptake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted February 15, 2012 More the pathetic "nikkee do what I do see it omg you should do it too nikkkeeee its wicked super fun time" That's the wow Says the guy who follows RP around like a puppy dog all day. Lolol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted February 15, 2012 Bubbles is always, ALWAYS, slow on the uptake. You just called me bubbles. Lolol. That's good stuff. Clever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,611 Posted February 16, 2012 :whispers: Maggie Thatcher was a staunch conservative, and never said that. I didn't really give that much consideration. I just assumed that worms was spouting off dumb stuff again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,137 Posted February 16, 2012 Sometimes I am pleasantly surprised when I open one of these political threads... You people crack me up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted February 16, 2012 Lolol You said Lolol. Good stuff, clever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted February 16, 2012 "A gentleman who dishonors a wager is no man at all." -Recliner Pilot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted February 16, 2012 you guys are just talking about things obama has done that were bad or that you disagree with, not that he projects a constantly shifting image of himself. That's what a phony (Romney) does. "I once believed x, now I believe y because it is more likely to make people like me." Whatever you think of Obama's performance, I don't think he's changed who he says he is? this is fine, but how does it make him a phony? ditto this...if he was a phony, he would have thrown Holder under the bus after years of supporting him Ultra liberals consider him a sellout because he paid off his financial sector support in bailouts. Obama's presidency has been defined by putting out the fire of the day. He hasn't dealt in providing any type of long term vision. I could point out the same type of flip flops by the populist response like gitmo, the patriot act, cutting the deficit in half...etc He had a golden opportunity to push for Bowles Simpson which he commissioned and he would have been a clintonian-esque boost in approval He has ultimately kicked the can down the road and will be campaigning on being the guy who won't do it again. At a minimum it's dishonest. Discretionary spending is what 36% of the budget. this spending spiral is almost on autopilot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,162 Posted February 16, 2012 I'd tell ya to fock off if I was him, nobody really cares if you get pissed. Maybe you can call fftoday customer service and harrass them about it ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted February 16, 2012 I didn't really give that much consideration. I just assumed that worms was spouting off dumb stuff again. Please tell me that you do know who Margaret Thatcher is. Right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Little Rusty 19 Posted February 16, 2012 "You Guys are Nuts !,.......i'm leavin" Little Rusty 2012 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted February 16, 2012 Ultra liberals consider him a sellout because he paid off his financial sector support in bailouts. Obama's presidency has been defined by putting out the fire of the day. He hasn't dealt in providing any type of long term vision. I could point out the same type of flip flops by the populist response like gitmo, the patriot act, cutting the deficit in half...etc He had a golden opportunity to push for Bowles Simpson which he commissioned and he would have been a clintonian-esque boost in approval He has ultimately kicked the can down the road and will be campaigning on being the guy who won't do it again. At a minimum it's dishonest. Discretionary spending is what 36% of the budget. this spending spiral is almost on autopilot. I got it. But none of this is phony, dude. Not having a "long term vision" is not phony. He didn't change his mind on gitmo or the patriot act in order to win votes, in fact, it has cost him dearly among the ultra liberal as you say. Missing out on Bowles Simpson is not phony. Romney is a phony because his positions oscillate solely in order to attract the most voters. Obama has over promised, missed opportunities and been outmaneuvered on several occasions, but this is not phony. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 16, 2012 I got it. But none of this is phony, dude. Not having a "long term vision" is not phony. He didn't change his mind on gitmo or the patriot act in order to win votes, in fact, it has cost him dearly among the ultra liberal as you say. Missing out on Bowles Simpson is not phony. Romney is a phony because his positions oscillate solely in order to attract the most voters. Obama has over promised, missed opportunities and been outmaneuvered on several occasions, but this is not phony. Is attempting to portray himself as a regular African American phony ? Or they way he pretends wall st is the bad guy while taking record donations from wall st, that phony ? You're kinda coming off as a phony in this thread hoyt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted February 16, 2012 I got it. But none of this is phony, dude. Not having a "long term vision" is not phony. He didn't change his mind on gitmo or the patriot act in order to win votes, in fact, it has cost him dearly among the ultra liberal as you say. Missing out on Bowles Simpson is not phony. Promises break like an egg on the hot asphalt - Shane Minor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted February 16, 2012 Is attempting to portray himself as a regular African American phony ? Or they way he pretends wall st is the bad guy while taking record donations from wall st, that phony ? You're kinda coming off as a phony in this thread hoyt he;s just changing the benchmark for phony so his hero doesn't fit in it... Same song and dance they use to defend obama in every situation... He changed his policies because of shifting public outcry... For obama thats just being sensitive to his electorate, for a republican, thats being phony... rigged deck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted February 16, 2012 Promises break like an egg on the hot asphalt - Shane Minor "So Put another dime in the jukebox baby" -Joan Jett Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted February 16, 2012 He changed his policies because of shifting public outcry... He never changed his policies, he just lied to his voting base on what he would do. Now these same voters are running to defend them. It doesn’t matter what is right as long as you can get the people to believe you are right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted February 16, 2012 He never changed his policies, he just lied to his voting base on what he would do. Now these same voters are running to defend them. It doesn’t matter what is right as long as you can get the people to believe you are right. He was fervently trying to close gitmo initially with big resistance, once a majority of dems changed their minds he called off the dogs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted February 16, 2012 He was fervently trying to close gitmo initially with big resistance, once a majority of dems changed their minds he called off the dogs... Anyone with half of a brain knew Gitmo could not be closed, especially in a year. He is either a liar or a moron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted February 16, 2012 Anyone with half of a brain knew Gitmo could not be closed, especially in a year. He is either a liar or a moron. Really? Gitmo could be closed within 24 hours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted February 16, 2012 Really? Gitmo could be closed within 24 hours. Guess what I found? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted February 16, 2012 Guess what I found? Love in a hopeless place? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bishop82 61 Posted February 16, 2012 "I can't believe this thread is 4 pages long." - Bishop82 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted February 16, 2012 "I can't believe this thread is 4 pages long." - Bishop82 I feel kind of embarrassed to have started this abortion of a thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted February 17, 2012 I feel kind of embarrassed to have started this abortion of a thread. Is it time to worms it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglesalltheway 0 Posted February 17, 2012 he;s just changing the benchmark for phony so his hero doesn't fit in it... Same song and dance they use to defend obama in every situation... He changed his policies because of shifting public outcry... For obama thats just being sensitive to his electorate, for a republican, thats being phony... rigged deck To say there's no difference between a "phony" Mitt and a "phony" Obama is crazy. Obama made campaign promises that he never followed through on, which is pretty typical of politicians, and what I expect from Santorum, Gingrich (especially) and Paul (no way could he do everything he says he would do). But Romney is a different breed of phony - he's trying to tell the voter that he's the clear conservative, when everything he did as governor speaks as a moderate. As an independent, I had planned on voting Romney when I looked at his record for Mass. thinking he was a good alternative, but with all the garbage he's spewing to appease the tea party, there is no way I would vote for this guy now. The ultra conservatives of the tea party are ruining any chance they have of getting a new president. People don't want a president who is to the right or left, they prefer one in the middle, but by making the candidates look ultra conservative (Santorum's the only clear conservative, and he has no shot IMO - he could only win 1 term as Senator), they are losing the independent vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
