DamageIncVacc 6 Posted August 14, 2012 I am a fan and think hes one of the best backs in Football BUT I cant take him where he is being taken. (I have seen him mid first in some Mocks now) As someone who has him on his team every year its tough. I won it all in spite of him last year but its frustrating. . If i could draft him 2nd round that would be great and lesson the risk. While I know any back can get injured , we have an history with Dmac . Not only was it the foot last year but lets not forget before the foot he had injured his shoulder .. His upright style of running and the fact that he goes for the hits instead of trying to get away from tacklers leads him to numerous injuries. Again I think if he played 16 games he would be the #1 back in fantasy its too risky as your number 1 pick. Your season could be over real fast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King of Kings 0 Posted August 14, 2012 Aren't the Raiders moving to a zone blocking scheme much like the Texans use too? Obviously it has nothiong to do with his injury tag, but could help his #'s even more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted August 14, 2012 I took him in 2 drafts Sunday so they better not play him one more down in the preseason My bold prediction is he actually plays 16 games and is top scoring RB in fantasy football this year I said this very thing last year. But maybe this year really will be different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LSUtiger 9 Posted August 14, 2012 DMC looked fantastic last night in what was his first live action since his injury last year. Like someone said, he almost took a couple of his touches to the house - the guy makes people look like they're moving in slow motion. I've made up my mind - I want DMC this year. That said, I'm going to target him in the second round, and aim to pair him with a solid RB like Forte with my first rounder. Then, target Julio in the third. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DexterMorgan 5 Posted August 14, 2012 DMC looked fantastic last night in what was his first live action since his injury last year. Like someone said, he almost took a couple of his touches to the house - the guy makes people look like they're moving in slow motion. I've made up my mind - I want DMC this year. That said, I'm going to target him in the second round, and aim to pair him with a solid RB like Forte with my first rounder. Then, target Julio in the third. that'd be nice. I'm relatively certain Dmac will be gone before I pick at 12 in my league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PackYourNut 47 Posted August 14, 2012 DMC looked fantastic last night in what was his first live action since his injury last year. Like someone said, he almost took a couple of his touches to the house - the guy makes people look like they're moving in slow motion. I've made up my mind - I want DMC this year. That said, I'm going to target him in the second round, and aim to pair him with a solid RB like Forte with my first rounder. Then, target Julio in the third. Gonna be hard to get 2 first rounders and a 2nd rounder with your first 3 picks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LSUtiger 9 Posted August 14, 2012 Gonna be hard to get 2 first rounders and a 2nd rounder with your first 3 picks! Well, in my league I can definitely say Forte and DMC will both likely be early second rounders, hence my hope that I draft late in the first so I can pick up both. Julio in the late third would be the tougher pull...especially if he keeps ballin' in these preseason games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raider 84 29 Posted August 14, 2012 I'm taking this cat as high as #6 after Rodgers, Calvin, and the big 3 rbs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PATSSOX 22 Posted August 15, 2012 I said this very thing last year. But maybe this year really will be different. I doubt it. But he does have to make it through an entire season or atleast play in 93.75% of the regular season games at some point right Buddy called me today and said he was gonna take DMC #5 in our draft this Monday. He full of sh!t though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glockjs 0 Posted August 15, 2012 choooooooo chooooo! maybe it's just the raider in me giddy to actually draft raider players again x.O DMC is a beast and if stays healthy will be the #1 or 2 fantasy back by years end....it also helps having the threat of the pass game so the box isn't stacked imo. buy yeah he was my first round pick....i had the 7th spot and basically if i passed him i lost him. yes high risk and very high reward. gamble up bitches! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,254 Posted August 15, 2012 We all knew his potential. The entire off season was about how injury prone he is and how its just a matter of time until it happens this year. Now after 3 touches he is a man of steel and people are buying back in this easily? There may be a couple lemmings disguised as wolves among us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobbyn2022 53 Posted August 15, 2012 Why do people not realize fantasy football is like a stock market? U want a guy like McFadden who goes 12th overall but could finish as the top back. Leagues are not won buy guys who pick aaron Rogers they are won buy guys who pick stafford. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,254 Posted August 15, 2012 Why do people not realize fantasy football is like a stock market? U want a guy like McFadden who goes 12th overall but could finish as the top back. Leagues are not won buy guys who pick aaron Rogers they are won buy guys who pick stafford. So Aaron Rodgers was not part of many winning teams last year? That's funny because I remember Aaron Rodgers making the playoffs in the majority of leagues. In 2 out of my 3 leagues he was on the winning team. There was a thread last year that asked for everyone to give the QB on the roster that made the playoffs. Rodgers was mentioned, a lot. You are also implying that taking the safer route in the stock market is not a winning decision. That is blatantly false. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DexterMorgan 5 Posted August 15, 2012 Why do people not realize fantasy football is like a stock market? U want a guy like McFadden who goes 12th overall but could finish as the top back. Leagues are not won buy guys who pick aaron Rogers they are won buy guys who pick stafford. Hope you don't have a lot of your money tied up in the market. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted August 15, 2012 We all knew his potential. The entire off season was about how injury prone he is and how its just a matter of time until it happens this year. Now after 3 touches he is a man of steel and people are buying back in this easily? There may be a couple lemmings disguised as wolves among us. And if he was in street clothes Monday Night, you would have used that info to justify your position that he's injury prone. People are simply applying what they see with what they think they know....as it should be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slim Pickins 0 Posted August 15, 2012 I think a lot of people are gambling this year with DMC and are looking at his potential. Had him last year and he nearly rooned my season. At this point, all you have is potential. If he can beat the "fragile" tag, he's a top 5 back, but that's a BIG IF. Meh. I'm glad someone else will have him this year and will take the constant hand ringing and potential disappointment too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted August 15, 2012 Hope you don't have a lot of your money tied up in the market. "You guys, Enron is a great buy right now! Sure they've had problems but look how low the price is! And don't even get me started on MCI Worldcom..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Gladstone 33 Posted August 15, 2012 I was serious about being on the DHB bandwagon... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PackYourNut 47 Posted August 15, 2012 Take his yearly projections and subtract 3 games off of it... That's your BEST case scenario. If you think that is worthy of a 1st round pick, then draft him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bc91 0 Posted August 15, 2012 who is his handcuff? Is he worth taking? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laurence Maroney's Nuts 2 Posted August 15, 2012 who is his handcuff? Is he worth taking? Love some DMAC, but yeah, his handcuff is the confusing thing... people are split over Goodson / Taiwan / Reece.... Goodson has at least performed as a 3-down back before Taiwan DOES look to have game-breaking speed, but perhaps not durability And Reece gets a lot of homer Raider love as a hulking back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iham32 7 Posted August 15, 2012 Thinking of targeting him with 9th overall or 12 overall(2nd pick of 2rd). If I do definately going to match him with another RB someone like Forte, MJD. Saw in some mocks that he went in the 3rd round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,254 Posted August 15, 2012 Thinking of targeting him with 9th overall or 12 overall(2nd pick of 2rd). If I do definately going to match him with another RB someone like Forte, MJD. Saw in some mocks that he went in the 3rd round. Doubt that was any recent mocks. He was falling to the early second before the preseason game. After he averaged over 10 yards a touch and CJ1k looked pedestrian their adp has swapped. If you want him you are going to have to draft him 9th overall. I doubt he will even fall that far, especially in ppr. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bc91 0 Posted August 15, 2012 Love some DMAC, but yeah, his handcuff is the confusing thing... people are split over Goodson / Taiwan / Reece.... Goodson has at least performed as a 3-down back before Taiwan DOES look to have game-breaking speed, but perhaps not durability And Reece gets a lot of homer Raider love as a hulking back So no reason to draft any of those guys...if he goes down I'm just screwed!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laurence Maroney's Nuts 2 Posted August 15, 2012 So no reason to draft any of those guys...if he goes down I'm just screwed!!!!! Honestly, that's kinda what I might plan if I do in fact get DMAC... I'd cuff DMAC with a Hillis/McGahee/etc type pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted August 16, 2012 I love dmc and stole him last year (or so I thought). its blind faith but I'm takin him as high as 6th this year and praying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted August 16, 2012 You motherfockers are starting to bring me around. Now I'm gonna draft DMC and he's gonna kill me with an injury. Much like last year, when some ahole stole Bush from me two rounds too early. That ahole won our league too (imagine that). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bc91 0 Posted August 16, 2012 Love some DMAC, but yeah, his handcuff is the confusing thing... people are split over Goodson / Taiwan / Reece.... Goodson has at least performed as a 3-down back before Taiwan DOES look to have game-breaking speed, but perhaps not durability And Reece gets a lot of homer Raider love as a hulking back Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie explained that he did not sign Cedric Benson because of his confidence in Mike Goodson as Darren McFadden's backup. The Raiders talked with Benson before camp, but he balked at their offers. The organization moved on when Goodson turned out to be "better than (McKenzie) thought he was." Observed the rookie GM, "(Goodson) picked up the blitz-pickup stuff, when to release out, the timing ... that stuff, he is a natural. And he's tougher than people give him credit for. The talent is hard to hide, his slashing skills, his quickness and ability to catch the ball." Goodson is ahead of Taiwan Jones. Looks like Goodson might be the guy I pick up in the last round of the draft .....JUST IN CASE!!!! I am just hoping this guy is the STAFFORD of this year...you know someone who has really never stayed healthy but you know if he ever does he will BLOW UP!!!! All this guy has to do is play 14-15 games and is almost guaranteed TOP 3-5 production. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e-factor 13 Posted August 16, 2012 I am just hoping this guy is the STAFFORD of this year...you know someone who has really never stayed healthy but you know if he ever does he will BLOW UP!!!! All this guy has to do is play 14-15 games and is almost guaranteed TOP 3-5 production. The difference is that Stafford was a 7th rounder (or later) in most drafts, so if he got hurt again, not a huge deal. People are talking about McFadden as early as 1.6. That's a lot tougher to recover from if he goes down again. Yeah, if he only misses a game or two, great. But that hasn't been the case. I am not one who usually labels a player "injury prone" but missing major parts of 3 out of 4 seasons doesn't give me a real good feeling taking him in the top 10 slots in the draft. I would be willing to take a risk at the turn depending on who I was able to pair him up with. Anyway, great topic. I would love to have this guy on my teams, but can't pull the trigger any earlier than the 11-12 spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bc91 0 Posted August 16, 2012 The difference is that Stafford was a 7th rounder (or later) in most drafts, so if he got hurt again, not a huge deal. People are talking about McFadden as early as 1.6. That's a lot tougher to recover from if he goes down again. Yeah, if he only misses a game or two, great. But that hasn't been the case. I am not one who usually labels a player "injury prone" but missing major parts of 3 out of 4 seasons doesn't give me a real good feeling taking him in the top 10 slots in the draft. I would be willing to take a risk at the turn depending on who I was able to pair him up with. Anyway, great topic. I would love to have this guy on my teams, but can't pull the trigger any earlier than the 11-12 spot. I have #8 in 12 team so I think he will be there in rd 1 but no way he falls to me in rd 2.... I just like this guys upside more than guys like Forte/Murray and now with Mathews hurt it really limits the options at 8...no way I go any WR except Calvin but he wont be there either so I am almost forced into taking this guy.........At least that's how I see it PS- Drafting 7-10 SUCKS THIS YEAR!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,254 Posted August 16, 2012 I have #8 in 12 team so I think he will be there in rd 1 but no way he falls to me in rd 2.... I just like this guys upside more than guys like Forte/Murray and now with Mathews hurt it really limits the options at 8...no way I go any WR except Calvin but he wont be there either so I am almost forced into taking this guy.........At least that's how I see it PS- Drafting 7-10 SUCKS THIS YEAR!!!! In my 10 team 6 pt per passing TD and no ppr league, I have the tenth pick. I am going top 4 QB and TE all the way. However, if all of the first 4 QB are gone I am going TE and Julio. I almost wish this would happen because I really want to see what kind of team I can make with this strategy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deefree93 0 Posted August 16, 2012 Two interesting things I read about Goodson lately have made me think that DMC is a bit of a safer pick. (Safe in the way that if you had Bush last yr. you weren't totally screwed.) The Raiders O seems to be productive for RBs in general. If you draft DMC you obviously want some additional depth @ RB, but IMO you would be crazy not to draft Goodson in the final few rounds. To me both Jones and Reese are bit players while Goodson seems to have 3 down back skills. From Rotoworld: "Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie explained that he did not sign Cedric Benson because of his confidence in Mike Goodson as Darren McFadden's backup. The Raiders talked with Benson before camp, but he balked at their offers. The organization moved on when Goodson turned out to be "better than (McKenzie) thought he was." Observed the rookie GM, "(Goodson) picked up the blitz-pickup stuff, when to release out, the timing ... that stuff, he is a natural. And he's tougher than people give him credit for. The talent is hard to hide, his slashing skills, his quickness and ability to catch the ball." Goodson is ahead of Taiwan Jones. " From ESPN (insider): "Goodson certainly seems like the natural handcuff here, though young speedster Taiwan Jones is in the picture. While neither is as talented as Bush, the opportunity is the luring factor." "For now Goodson is going 175th in ESPN average live drafts, in the same area as fellow reserves Brandon Jacobs, Tim Hightower and Rashad Jennings. That makes perfect sense to me, but I'd move him up if I had chosen McFadden earlier." Full Article Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LSUtiger 9 Posted August 16, 2012 I'm full bore on the DMC hype train my friends! I can't wait till we are all back here in two months commiserating about how he single-handedly ruined our seasons! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted August 16, 2012 You motherfockers are starting to bring me around. Now I'm gonna draft DMC and he's gonna kill me with an injury. Much like last year, when some ahole stole Bush from me two rounds too early. That ahole won our league too (imagine that). OMG same BS happened to me last year! Some DBAG took bush way too early and snickered at me like blocking my handcuff somehow made HIS team better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raider 84 29 Posted August 16, 2012 If McFadden doesn't pan out this year, he will go down as one of the biggest bust fantasy players in history! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PackYourNut 47 Posted August 17, 2012 OMG same BS happened to me last year! Some DBAG took bush way too early and snickered at me like blocking my handcuff somehow made HIS team better. Didn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 996 Posted August 17, 2012 I don't get all the hype. What? The 5th year's the charm? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted August 17, 2012 If McFadden doesn't pan out this year, he will go down as one of the biggest bust fantasy players in history! ??? No he won't. a Bust is talking about a player that is ocver hyped and taken in round 1 and performs like sh!t - injury doesn't make one a bust in FF. If you handcuffed him to Bush last year you had a top 5 RB all season. DMC is a risk/Reward pick and if someone drafts him not knowing this then it's their fault. He gets injured becasue of the way he runs -- He tries to punish the tackler like a 6'0 250 RB when he is closer to 6'2 205 - 210. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boshek95 0 Posted August 18, 2012 Two interesting things I read about Goodson lately have made me think that DMC is a bit of a safer pick. (Safe in the way that if you had Bush last yr. you weren't totally screwed.) The Raiders O seems to be productive for RBs in general. If you draft DMC you obviously want some additional depth @ RB, but IMO you would be crazy not to draft Goodson in the final few rounds. To me both Jones and Reese are bit players while Goodson seems to have 3 down back skills. From Rotoworld: "Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie explained that he did not sign Cedric Benson because of his confidence in Mike Goodson as Darren McFadden's backup. The Raiders talked with Benson before camp, but he balked at their offers. The organization moved on when Goodson turned out to be "better than (McKenzie) thought he was." Observed the rookie GM, "(Goodson) picked up the blitz-pickup stuff, when to release out, the timing ... that stuff, he is a natural. And he's tougher than people give him credit for. The talent is hard to hide, his slashing skills, his quickness and ability to catch the ball." Goodson is ahead of Taiwan Jones. " From ESPN (insider): "Goodson certainly seems like the natural handcuff here, though young speedster Taiwan Jones is in the picture. While neither is as talented as Bush, the opportunity is the luring factor." "For now Goodson is going 175th in ESPN average live drafts, in the same area as fellow reserves Brandon Jacobs, Tim Hightower and Rashad Jennings. That makes perfect sense to me, but I'd move him up if I had chosen McFadden earlier." Full Article Excellent post. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raider 84 29 Posted August 18, 2012 Another solid night for RUN DMC, although he should have punched it in on the goal line. He nearly ripped off 2-3 huge runs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites