Think R. Mathews will lose goal line work?

[tbk420 3]

Due to his fumbling problem.

 

I'm not liking the recent comments from the coaching staff about limiting his role in "certain situations", after his last fumble was inside the 5.

 

I'm actually considering starting Tate and Foster against Tennessee D, in my TD only league. I'm concerned that Battle might get the scoring opportunities.

[DexterMorgan 5]

I do not.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

Wow. AJ Smith slamming on Mathews now. 11 fumbles in 27 games? That's not good.

 

Now not only is Mathews a guy who gets knicked up a lot and pulls himself out of games, he's also got fumbling issues and could get pulled in certain situations.

 

This could all end up being nothing much if he fixes his issues but this kids got some strikes against him and I'm glad now that I don't own him on either of my teams.

[Stifler 2]

I just traded Ridley/Hankerson for Mathews...I guess the other owner must have seen that info. Mathews better not screw me.

[Skinny_Bastard 157]

How many of those 11 fumbles are lost?

Hard to find an all purpose back these days....they are rare.

 

AJ smith can talk all he wants, but Mathews is key to their season.

 

The Killer Bees aren't going to cut it.

 

Brinkley

Brown

Battle

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

How many of those 11 fumbles are lost?

Hard to find an all purpose back these days....they are rare.

 

AJ smith can talk all he wants, but Mathews is key to their season.

 

The Killer Bees aren't going to cut it.

 

Brinkley

Brown

Battle

 

Chargers without Mathews: 2-0

Chargers with Mathews: 0-1

Key to the season yo!

[Phurfur 70]

Bolts 'very concerned' with Mathews' fumbles Chargers GM A.J. Smith is "very concerned" about Ryan Mathews' Week 3 fumble, the 11th of his career in 27 games.

"It has to stop. I believe you can improve in ball security. And no one works any harder in trying to get better than Ryan. However, if it continues he will play less," said Smith. "Extremely talented players like Ryan get multiple opportunities to improve. What happens to fumblers is, first, they play less. Second, if it continues while they're playing on a limited basis, then you don't play for a while and you get to sit and think about it. Third, when you get the call to go back on the field and the fumbling continues, then you will be somebody else's fumbler." The Chargers are clearly taking the issue seriously, though Mathews remains a strong bet for 15+ touches versus the Chiefs in Week 4. Source: Union-Tribune San Diego Sep 28 - 9:38 AM

[Djgb13 2,339]

It was Mathews first game back and against the Falcons no less. Their defense has been extremely good this season. Naturally his first game back is going to be a bit rocky. I expect him to be firing on all cylinders this weekend vs the Chiefs.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

It was Mathews first game back and against the Falcons no less. Their defense has been extremely good this season. Naturally his first game back is going to be a bit rocky. I expect him to be firing on all cylinders this weekend vs the Chiefs.

 

So he gets a fumble-pass because he was a tad rusty?

[Kent 228]

It was Mathews first game back and against the Falcons no less. Their defense has been extremely good this season. Naturally his first game back is going to be a bit rocky. I expect him to be firing on all cylinders this weekend vs the Chiefs.

 

The guy is a fumbler and a frail. Most overrated player I've seen in fantasy pre season in a long time. Just shows how shallow the rb pool is now.

[Skinny_Bastard 157]

 

Chargers without Mathews: 2-0

Chargers with Mathews: 0-1

Key to the season yo!

 

Sample size too small.

[Reality 3,121]

The guy is a fumbler and a frail. Most overrated player I've seen in fantasy pre season in a long time. Just shows how shallow the rb pool is now.

 

Truth.

[deefree93 0]

Ehh... He's only in the 3rd year of his career, so I don't think you can fully judge him yet. Plus he played 14 games last year and put 1500 total yards and 6 tds

 

Who else would you rather have where you coulda got Mathews (FJAX/ SJAX/ Sproles / Turner/ Bradshaw)?

 

I'll give you maybe Gore or Doug Martin, but I'll take Mathews upside over them. Smith's comments seem like a motivational technique more than anything. No GM wants their RB to fumble

[Ray_T 753]

Due to his fumbling problem.

 

I'm not liking the recent comments from the coaching staff about limiting his role in "certain situations", after his last fumble was inside the 5.

 

I'm actually considering starting Tate and Foster against Tennessee D, in my TD only league. I'm concerned that Battle might get the scoring opportunities.

Well, I do think Battle is a better short yardage back than Matthews is anyhow. I would have expected he would have got the goal line carries already. That being said, this issue wont help Matthews either.

[JT 137]

Ehh... He's only in the 3rd year of his career, so I don't think you can fully judge him yet.

 

He keeps fumbling and there's not going to be much more of a sample size from which to judge.

[We Tigers 71]

AJ Smith is a clown. Ignore him the same way you would Jim Irsay.

 

Battle might punch a few in, but Mathews isn't going anywhere.

[The_GW 0]

In his 3 years, he has lost 6 of 11 fumbles. I thought they were going a little overboard with these statement as it was his first game back from injury. I thought the hit was hard and was in the perfect spot for a guy that is still healing from a broken clavicle. However, as othershave said, he does fumble with regularity regardless of rust or injury. That fumble inside the 5 completely changed the outlook of the game. They were down by 6 and could have taken the lead on that drive with a TD. Instead, they would immediately fell behind 13-0 and the game was over as they were reeling.

 

I think they will give him one more opportunity since he it was his first game back from injury. I think the words were used for motivation tactics to make him focus and be cautious with his ball carrying. So unless he fumbles early this week, I do not think it will be this week where he will be in jeopardy of losing touches as Ronnie Brown and Battle are not the answer at RB.

 

I just find it funny that Matthews is the only one in the doghouse when Rivers has been a turnover machine for the past year and change and Gates has been injury prone and a mere shadow of his former self as he has dropped several balls.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

So they're going to draft somebody this offseason to platoon with Matthew's fragile, fumble-prone ass right?

[msudavedawg 5]

Jackie Battle stashed on my bench says, "Hells yeah!"

[Skinny_Bastard 157]

So he lost 6 of those 11 fumbles over the past 2 seasons.

That's about 3 turnovers average per year.

 

River threw for 20+ INT last season along, are they going to stop him from passing?

 

If 3 turnovers is a lot, what about 20 from Rivers?

 

Smith's an idiot.

[Skinny_Bastard 157]

One more note.

 

Smith ran a legend (LT) out of town and traded a number of picks to move up to take Mathews. If there is ONE person that wants Mathews, it's AJ Smith.

 

Expect a big game from Mathews.

 

Next 6 weeks. I've been trying REAL hard for 4 weeks trying to get Mathews. The owner just won't bite.

 

@KC

@NO

Den

BYE

@Cle

KC

[Spec7ral 6]

Ride it.

 

And yusss I know Go-Bots were Transformers for retards okay? YOU TOLD ME EVERYDAY FOR YEARS JUST LEAVE ME ALONE ALREADY!!!

 

[The_GW 0]

I think Smith was banking on Matthews being able to replace LT when he drafted him. He was trying to make similar comparisons without trying to make the comparisons. Matthews is a good complimentary player, but he is not a stud that can dominate and take over a game like LT could or guys that are drafted at or around his pick.

 

He has never demonstrated that ability to be a true stud and you may have been able to argue it was the offensive play calling with Norvell, but Matthews is unable to stay healthy to carry the ball as many times as LT did and he fumbles with more regularity with less touches than LT.

 

Sure LT had Marty Ball which did focus on the run, but limit SDG offensive play calling, but LT still would have to be able to produce and run with defenses stacking the box, which he did. Smith is trying to light a fire under Matthews to motivate him to take his game to the next level. I think the next few weeks will determine how SDG will view Matthews as the main RB. If he fails, it will be a RBBC with Battle and Brown. If he blows up, he will be the guy they can build this offense around as Rivers has regressed the last couple of years with the increase in turnovers and indecisiveness.

 

I think Matthews is too talented to not produce some big games in succession, so I think his fantasy value will only go up after this upcoming schedule or at least I hope so?

[Spec7ral 6]

If he fails, it will be a RBBC with Battle and Brown.

 

Brown was a healthy scratch last week.

[The_GW 0]

Sorry...I meant down the road it could be a RBBC if he fails miserably after being called out. Right now it is still his show, but that could change from game to game or even series to series.

[mickalopagus 0]

Sorry...I meant down the road it could be a RBBC if he fails miserably after being called out. Right now it is still his show, but that could change from game to game or even series to series.

 

yes matthews will lose goal line work. yes hes a bad player to own in FF. yes you should trade him before he ruins your team

[uwmalcolm 74]

yes matthews will lose goal line work. yes hes a bad player to own in FF. yes you should trade him before he ruins your team

 

Yes you should stop posting.

[mickalopagus 0]

Yes you should stop posting.

 

for stating the truth? maybe its not what you want to hear, but thats not going to stop the inevitable from happening. Matthews has been, currently is, and always will be a bust.

[tbk420 3]

for stating the truth? maybe its not what you want to hear, but thats not going to stop the inevitable from happening. Matthews has been, currently is, and always will be a bust.

 

 

No - you stated a bald assertion, with zero analysis or facts to support.

 

I have no problem with anyone's opinion. If you think he'll "ruin my team", fine - just give me the benefit of your clear expertise and analysis.

[montana 89]

I'd bet Battle will become the Left Coast version of M.Bush.

[GobbleDog 996]

San Diego traded away their best WR and Gates needs a wheelchair. Rivers is a decent QB, but he ain't elite by any stretch. Mathews is their best offensive weapon.

 

Regardless of a few fumbles, he'll get the bulk of touches this year. I ain't sweating it.

[mickalopagus 0]

No - you stated a bald assertion, with zero analysis or facts to support.

 

I have no problem with anyone's opinion. If you think he'll "ruin my team", fine - just give me the benefit of your clear expertise and analysis.

 

heres some facts for you:

 

statistically it has been shown (on sites I have access to and you dont) that and I quote, "Clear as day, player production decreased 60% of the time once a player appeared on the injury report." The average RB production decrease after an injury is aproximately "RB -11.0%".

When you take into account Matthews production to begin with, you are left with a low number.

 

Add to the fact that RBs who lose playing time to injuries lose FF points upon return (seems logical to me), that Matthews has a fumbling issue (11 fumbles in 23 starts, which has grabbed the attention of his already peeved GM), you can expect that percentage not only to be on the higher side, but to be outside of the normal standard deviation. My estimate (and this is off the top of my head, but not far off) would be 15-25% of goal line carries, and 3rd down snaps), on top of his 11% production decrease), over 16 games this is approximately 52 carries matthews loses out on, due to fragility and clumsiness alone, totaling a net decrease of ~ 24-28%.

 

Lets calculate that with his projected 2012 stats, and keep in mind that is if he plays all 16 games, which hes lost out on 2 of already.

 

1000 yards rushing, 8 rushing TD, 400 yards receiving, 1 receiving TD.

into

750 yards rushing, 6 rushing TD, 300 yards receiving, .75 receiving TD

 

in my opinion, those are chud FF stats, for a chud FF RB who has proven that he cannot stay healthy an entire season, and his season just started considering he missed out on the front 2. Considering his GM is already starting to talk bench if he continues his fumbling problems, and I quote "Extremely talented players like Ryan get multiple opportunities to improve. What happens to fumblers is, first, they play less. Second, if it continues while they're playing on a limited basis, then you don't play for a while and you get to sit and think about it. Third, when you get the call to go back on the field and the fumbling continues, then you will be somebody else's fumbler.", I think it would be a very risky option to hold onto this RB thinking he is your key to a title.

 

Look at his SoS, and its not pretty. @KC, DEN, Bye, KC @TB, @DEN, BAL, @PIT

 

so there are your facts. wait for him to have a big game, then dish him off. it will likely come at NO a week from now.

[WR Guru 31]

The Chargers' patience is obviously wearing thin with Mathews given their openly critical remarks after only 1 game this year (a game in which their whole team played miserably, by the way). You don't normally hear a coaching staff and GM essentially call out one specific player. I'd say the rest of this season may be make-or-break for his career, at least in San Diego.

[Skinny_Bastard 157]

for stating the truth? maybe its not what you want to hear, but thats not going to stop the inevitable from happening. Matthews has been, currently is, and always will be a bust.

 

 

"hes a bad player to own in FF"

 

If this is the truth, you are a moron.

The dude finished in the top 10 last year.

 

So what do you call players that don't finish in the top 10 of their position?

[Skinny_Bastard 157]

heres some facts for you:

 

statistically it has been shown (on sites I have access to and you dont) that and I quote, "Clear as day, player production decreased 60% of the time once a player appeared on the injury report." The average RB production decrease after an injury is aproximately "RB -11.0%".

When you take into account Matthews production to begin with, you are left with a low number.

 

Add to the fact that RBs who lose playing time to injuries lose FF points upon return (seems logical to me), that Matthews has a fumbling issue (11 fumbles in 23 starts, which has grabbed the attention of his already peeved GM), you can expect that percentage not only to be on the higher side, but to be outside of the normal standard deviation. My estimate (and this is off the top of my head, but not far off) would be 15-25% of goal line carries, and 3rd down snaps), on top of his 11% production decrease), over 16 games this is approximately 52 carries matthews loses out on, due to fragility and clumsiness alone, totaling a net decrease of ~ 24-28%.

 

Lets calculate that with his projected 2012 stats, and keep in mind that is if he plays all 16 games, which hes lost out on 2 of already.

 

1000 yards rushing, 8 rushing TD, 400 yards receiving, 1 receiving TD.

into

750 yards rushing, 6 rushing TD, 300 yards receiving, .75 receiving TD

 

in my opinion, those are chud FF stats, for a chud FF RB who has proven that he cannot stay healthy an entire season, and his season just started considering he missed out on the front 2. Considering his GM is already starting to talk bench if he continues his fumbling problems, and I quote "Extremely talented players like Ryan get multiple opportunities to improve. What happens to fumblers is, first, they play less. Second, if it continues while they're playing on a limited basis, then you don't play for a while and you get to sit and think about it. Third, when you get the call to go back on the field and the fumbling continues, then you will be somebody else's fumbler.", I think it would be a very risky option to hold onto this RB thinking he is your key to a title.

 

Look at his SoS, and its not pretty. @KC, DEN, Bye, KC @TB, @DEN, BAL, @PIT

 

so there are your facts. wait for him to have a big game, then dish him off. it will likely come at NO a week from now.

 

hahahaha

A chud player can put up these numbers last season?

 

1,091 rushing yards

6 rushing TD

455 Rec yards

 

1,500+ total yards

6 TD in 14 games is a chud player?

 

You are a chud fantasy football owner. How does that sound. How many players have 1,500 total yards and 6 TD last season?

[Skinny_Bastard 157]

I've noticed that there are more and more idiots that play fantasy football over the years. The type of crap some of you folks put up or come up with are mind numbing.

[mickalopagus 0]

I've noticed that there are more and more idiots that play fantasy football over the years. The type of crap some of you folks put up or come up with are mind numbing.

 

I love how you reply to your own posts over and over again to try and make it seem like people are conversing about how you are right, but you are alone and look pretty pathetic trying to insult me the way you have. i am stating what I think will happen this season. Mathews will bust. you dont like it so you call me an idiot. real mature there you bloddy twat of an ahole.

 

you know what, keep mathews. start him every week. I hope you do

[lguero1 4]

Wow. If Ryan Mathews does not get hurt and if he stops fumbling, he will be ok. Those are big ifs.

 

The next two weeks will tell me everything I want to know. I have Mathews in a TD only league with 3 points for 100 yards and 6 points for 130 yards.

 

If he fumbles again this week and Battle gets GL carries, I would drop my third round pick for Battle, just in this league.

 

I really liked Mathews coming in and I loved the hype but I have a championship to win.

 

There is no trading in this league.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,254]

If you have been posting on this site for less than a year and a half you are an idiot. No doubt about it.

[yanko 11]

I'd bet Battle will become the Left Coast version of M.Bush.

 

Well he's certainly not the "Middle of America" version of M. Bush. He failed miserably at that last year.