Frank M 181 Posted October 3, 2012 Your argument is argument only in grade school. HTH That wasn't an argument, Putin, it was making fun of someone. And I'm the moron? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 3, 2012 I don't support that, either. Your point is that since the military experiences some disenfranchisement, it's proper to extend that disenfranchisement to working poor and minorities? Should we round them all up and put them behind a fence like the gays, too? Oh so I didnt make it up ? Hack, its the dems suppressing the military vote. Yet they want to ensure all the illegal votes they can get. Focking unamercican hacks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 3, 2012 Yes and fraud is as un-american as you can get. No matter what you claim the amount to be, fraud is cheating and should not be tolerated at any level. So because fraud occurs in approximately .00000052% of all votes cast, we should disenfranchise countless voters? That's fockin un-American, and you know it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted October 3, 2012 I don't support that, either. Your point is that since the military experiences some disenfranchisement, it's proper to extend that disenfranchisement to working poor and minorities? Should we round them all up and put them behind a fence like the gays, too? Only an extremely stupid person would draw this conculsion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted October 3, 2012 Oh so I didnt make it up ? Hack, its the dems suppressing the military vote. Yet they want to ensure all the illegal votes they can get. Focking unamercican hacks. I'm agreeing with you, dumbfock. I don't support that lawsuit. I don't support anything that disenfranchises Americans from their right to vote. The difference is that you do. Sorry, but you can't really be considered a true American. Maybe you should move to Canada or something. I'm ashamed to be counted with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 3, 2012 So because fraud occurs in approximately .00000052% of all votes cast, we should disenfranchise countless voters? That's fockin un-American, and you know it. How is requiring someone to have an ID disenfranchising voters again ? And where did you get that number ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 3, 2012 I'm agreeing with you, dumbfock. I don't support that lawsuit. I don't support anything that disenfranchises Americans from their right to vote. The difference is that you do. Sorry, but you can't really be considered a true American. Maybe you should move to Canada or something. I'm ashamed to be counted with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted October 3, 2012 So because fraud occurs in approximately .00000052% of all votes cast, we should disenfranchise countless voters? That's fockin un-American, and you know it. Picture IDs are free and available to all Americans what it the problem with that. No one has an answer. BTW: Voter fraud is much much higher than that, it decided the 1960 election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted October 3, 2012 Only an extremely stupid person would draw this conculsion. Read what he says in this thread. It's the only conclusion a true American can draw from his responses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 3, 2012 How is requiring someone to have an ID disenfranchising voters again ? And where did you get that number ? RP linked to it as "proof" of rampant voter fraud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 3, 2012 That's all you got? Frank M has you dead to rights. He's against vote suppression; you're in favor of it. One of those stances is clearly un-American; guess which side you're on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted October 3, 2012 So because fraud occurs in approximately .00000052% of all votes cast, we should disenfranchise countless voters? That's fockin un-American, and you know it. Disenfranchise countless voters? I can count them. ONE! Thousands>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>One. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted October 3, 2012 Picture IDs are free and available to all Americans what it the problem with that. No one has an answer. BTW: Voter fraud is much much higher than that, it decided the 1960 election. Asked and answered multiple times in this thread. Learn to read, tard. 1960 was what, 52 years ago? Studies done in the last decade show that voter fraud is extremely low, but since Phurfur said it decided the election in 1960, it's definitely high? Great deductive reasoning, there. Can you bring anything with relevance to the topic? Yes? No? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 3, 2012 RP linked to it as "proof" of rampant voter fraud. The number I come up with for actual voters being disenfrachised by ID requirements is .0000021%. Sounds like not many to me and having an honest election is more important than .0000021% being negatively affected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 3, 2012 BTW: Voter fraud is much much higher than that Prove it. I've come up with numbers. I've showed that not one focking person on this bored has ever been the victim of voter fraud or has even personally known anyone else who was a victim. What have you got? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted October 3, 2012 Disenfranchise countless voters? I can count them. ONE! Thousands>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>One. The judge in Pennsylvania disagrees with you. Home run for democracy, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted October 3, 2012 Read what he says in this thread. It's the only conclusion a true American can draw from his responses. You continually refer to yourself and your ideas as "true American". Are you having doubts about your patriotism? What is a true American? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted October 3, 2012 You countinually refer to yourself and your ideas as "true American". Are you having doubts about your patriotism? What is a true American? Someone who supports American ideals and rights without reservation, such as the right to vote, which you don't support. I have no doubts. I'm trying to show some of you guys who are wavering what a true American is like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 3, 2012 The number I come up with for actual voters being disenfrachised by ID requirements is .0000021%. Sounds like not many to me and having an honest election is more important than .0000021% being negatively affected. The difference is that you're lying with your numbers. Lying to support suppression of the people's democratic right to vote. You must be real proud of yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted October 3, 2012 My government declared me a true American, how about you? Then why do you hate it's cherished ideals so much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 3, 2012 The difference is that you're lying with your numbers. Lying to support suppression of the people's democratic right to vote. You must be real proud of yourself. your lying with yours Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted October 3, 2012 The difference is that you're lying with your numbers. Lying to support suppression of the people's democratic right to vote. You must be real proud of yourself. Anything for the big GOP win. It's pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 3, 2012 The judge in Pennsylvania disagrees with you. Home run for democracy, IMO. actually he just delayed implimentation of the law Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted October 3, 2012 Someone who supports American ideals and rights without reservation, such as the right to vote, which you don't support. I have no doubts. I'm trying to show some of you guys who are wavering what a true American is like. Link to where I said that Moron! My government declared me a true American, how about you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 3, 2012 your lying with yours Nope. Those numbers came from a link that your fellow anti-american, RP, provided. Feel free to go back a page or two to verify for yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 3, 2012 Anything for the big GOP win. It's pathetic. Except fraud and focking the guys in the military. That's how the democrats roll. You must be proud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted October 3, 2012 Prove it. I've come up with numbers. I've showed that not one focking person on this bored has ever been the victim of voter fraud or has even personally known anyone else who was a victim. What have you got? Because you asked a question and got no answer you think you proved something about everyone on the bored? Wow! You are fukking stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 3, 2012 Nope. Those numbers came from a link that your fellow anti-american, RP, provided. Feel free to go back a page or two to verify for yourself. Why would any amount of fraud be ok at all ? And I think those numbers are bullshit, I personally know spanish people who were picked up in a neighboring state to vote in mass in the last election. This is fact, fraud is rampant and should be prevented. But hey, if you're ok with cheating more the power to ya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted October 3, 2012 Link to where I said that Moron! My government declared me a true American, how about you? You said you support photo ID laws. You support voter disenfranchisement, and that's un-American. So who declared you a true American? The government you rail about here on a daily basis? I'm a true American by my actions and the fact that I support America, you would tear it down by denying one of it's basic rights to people. Maybe you should take a history course and see what people sacrificed for the right to vote that you would so callously deny people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted October 3, 2012 The difference is that you're lying with your numbers. Lying to support suppression of the people's democratic right to vote. You must be real proud of yourself. The difference is that the 1960 election was decided by voter fraud. Voter fraud is real and it is widespread. We are talking about controlling the largest economy and top military power in the world. Elections stopped being for the people decades ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 3, 2012 Why would any amount of fraud be ok at all ? And I think those numbers are bullshit, I personally know spanish people who were picked up in a neighboring state to vote in mass in the last election. This is fact, fraud is rampant and should be prevented. But hey, if you're ok with cheating more the power to ya. You keep saying it's "fact", but you provide absolutely nothing to back it up. Then when your anti-American butt-buddy comes up with a link demonstrating that voter fraud is, in fact, anything but rampant, you say that the article must be wrong!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted October 3, 2012 The difference is that the 1960 election was decided by voter fraud. Voter fraud is real and it is widespread. We are talking about controlling the largest economy and top military power in the world. Elections stopped being for the people decades ago. So the studies done in the last decade are wrong because of something that you claim happened 52 years ago? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 3, 2012 You keep saying it's "fact", but you provide absolutely nothing to back it up. Then when your anti-American butt-buddy comes up with a link demonstrating that voter fraud is, in fact, anything but rampant, you say that the article must be wrong!! Why does it have to be rampant, it shouldnt exist at all. Is the made up disenfrachising rampant ? And I do have fact, my freind Angel Ortiz lives in Salem NH, he is the one who told me about the van that came to pick him up to vote in Lawrence Ma. He told the van to ###### off, because he like any real american does not support voter fraud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 3, 2012 Why does it have to be rampant, it shouldnt exist at all. It should have to be an actual problem to warrant suppressing the people's democratic right to vote. Hell, I suppose theoretically space aliens could infiltrate the united states and attempt to swing our elections. Should you have to prove you aren't a space alien to cast your vote? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 3, 2012 It should have to be an actual problem to warrant suppressing the people's democratic right to vote. Hell, I suppose theoretically space aliens could infiltrate the united states and attempt to swing our elections. Should you have to prove you aren't a space alien to cast your vote? I think a van driving into another state to pick up voters is a problem no ? It happened, its rampant, and you guys need fraud to win. Its the only reason you're argueing it. But hey, fraud, cheating, anything to get the vote. Its how democrats roll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted October 3, 2012 I think a van driving into another state to pick up voters is a problem no ? It happened, its rampant, and you guys need fraud to win. Its the only reason you're argueing it. But hey, fraud, cheating, anything to get the vote. Its how democrats roll. Disenfranchisement. It's how the GOP and communists roll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted October 3, 2012 So the studies done in the last decade are wrong because of something that you claim happened 52 years ago? Yes, the beauty about fraud is that you don't know it is happening. Only a fool would attempt to determine the degree of fraud and pass it as fact. HTH The 1960 election is a matter of record, I guess they left that part out in your history class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted October 3, 2012 Yes, the beauty about fraud is that you don't know it is happening. Only a fool would attempt to determine the degree of fraud and pass it as fact. HTH The 1960 election is a matter of record, I guess they left that part out in your history class. Perhaps you could explain it, or, I don't know, maybe provide a LINK to your claims.Or explain why it's relevant when studies done in THE LAST DECADE determined identity fraud is not an issue in American elections. Fetch, Kruschev! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted October 3, 2012 I think a van driving into another state to pick up voters is a problem no ? It happened, its rampant, and you guys need fraud to win. Its the only reason you're argueing it. But hey, fraud, cheating, anything to get the vote. Its how democrats roll. The joke is that the people are not winning it is about establishing The Ruling Class. These Morons are so stupid they don't even question the clause in Obamacare that exempts member of Congress and the Administration from the bill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted October 3, 2012 Perhaps you could explain it, or, I don't know, maybe provide a LINK to your claims.Or explain why it's relevant when studies done in THE LAST DECADE determined identity fraud is not an issue in American elections. Fetch, Kruschev! The beauty about fraud is that you don't know it is happening. Only a fool would attempt to determine the degree of fraud and pass it as fact. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites