tanatastic 2,062 Posted August 5, 2013 I admittedly dont know much about his raw skills or potential other than the draft blustering. Nevermind Mayocks mouth calling him explosive, we all know that, but is this kid primed for a big rookie year? I usually stay away from undersized rook wrs especially on crap teams like the rams. But yr 2 with fisher and there might be some waves in the offense. Who would you rank Autin right below/above? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mack 1 6 Posted August 5, 2013 I think Austin can be sneaky productive. There aren't many other receiving options on the roster, so the obligatory "somebody has to catch Bradford's passes" applies here. Besides that, dude has quickness and athleticism in spades. He might be used on punt returns in addition to his receiving chores. The trick, though, will be not overpaying for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
We Tigers 71 Posted August 6, 2013 His best pro comp is Percy Harvin. I think he has a good shot at something like Harvin's 1st or 2nd season: 2009 61/790/6 15 rushes/135 yards 2010 71/868/5 18 rushes/107 yards/1 TD Tempting at WR26 because of the obvious upside there, but enough of an unknown quantity that it's hard to project him much higher than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PackYourNut 47 Posted August 6, 2013 Good in dynasty/keeper... Wouldn't be too excited this year...Although I do think he can catch 70 balls, I just don't think the TDs will be there... 70/800/4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maroon Bells 18 Posted August 6, 2013 He comes with a little risk though. Never has there been a player THAT small be successful in the NFL as anything more than a gadget player. At 5-8, 175, he's more Dexter McCluster than Percy Harvin. Harvin goes 6-0, 200 lbs and his arms are bigger than my thighs. I don't think he's a bust like some people do, but nor would I be drafting him in the middle rounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Criper 24 Posted August 6, 2013 I've got Austin projected at WR27 in PPR with the following projection: 68/796/5 with rushing 21/137/1 Not bad, but not someone I will be reaching for or even targeting. WR3 in a 12 team PPR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Upper Class Trash 67 Posted August 6, 2013 Our GM (I live in O'Fallon, MO) is saying no WR will catch over 60 passes in this offense. They intend to spread the ball around. In practice, he has been the most dynamic player on the field. The worry I have is he is going to be our kickoff and punt returner. He will take some shots..... So, can he hold up? Regardless of his current ADP, some owners have a massive crush on him and are taking him as a WR2. I think that is entirely too high. We will be playing in a lot of 3WR formations this season, so he will have the opportunity to be a PPR machine, but he is small. After seeing him over the weekend at their open practice, I don't believe that guy weighs 174. I'm 5'8 and 165. IF he is 5'8, they are measuring him with his shoes on (with cleats) and I'd guess he's more 160, or slightly above, than 174. He isn't bigger than me. He will outrun some guys and his agility is possibly the best I've ever seen at WR, but it's only going to take one hit from an NFL Linebacker or Safety to end his season. I think the projections above are pretty accurate. FantasySharks has him projected at something silly, like 1,100 yards. Not going to happen. I hope it does, but won't draft him with those expectations. lol How often will this little guy get in the Endzone? They aren't going to risk injury to him by throwing him the ball inside the ten. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,191 Posted August 7, 2013 I've got Austin projected at WR27 in PPR with the following projection: 68/796/5 with rushing 21/137/1 Not bad, but not someone I will be reaching for or even targeting. WR3 in a 12 team PPR. amen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirensong 111 Posted August 7, 2013 the problem with small explosive guys is that their ability to produce decreases the closer the offense gets to the goal line. inside the 20, and especially inside the 10, zones get so compressed that quickness guys don't have the space to separate, and tiny guys don't have the strength to muscle through. i think he's going to be a really exciting player to watch, but even if he manages to hit 1K yds, i don't think his TD production is going to make anyone happy. i think he'll be welker with a lot fewer catches but a substantially higher per-rec avg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,191 Posted August 7, 2013 the problem with small explosive guys is that their ability to produce decreases the closer the offense gets to the goal line. inside the 20, and especially inside the 10, zones get so compressed that quickness guys don't have the space to separate, and tiny guys don't have the strength to muscle through. i think he's going to be a really exciting player to watch, but even if he manages to hit 1K yds, i don't think his TD production is going to make anyone happy. i think he'll be welker with a lot fewer catches but a substantially higher per-rec avg. yea amen ..but with this guy speed he will get some big playes and some of them will be some double td scoring stuff . call me crazy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFantasyFootballSow 5 Posted August 7, 2013 There aren't many other receiving options on the roster, so the obligatory "somebody has to catch Bradford's passes" applies here. I think this is a very wrong perception. The rams have been investing draft picks in their skill positions, including: Quick (2012 / Round 2, Pick 1), Givens (2012 / Round 4, Pick 1), Pettis (2011 / Round 3, Pick 14), not to mention the acquisition of TE Jared Cook. That's a lot of young receivers hitting maturity. They'll need to get their looks, and an offense usually wins more games when spreading the ball around. Givens and Pettis are starting on the outside, leaving Austin to take over Amendola's role. If you project Amendola's 2012 #s across a full 16 game season, you get a solid 100 / 1065 / 5 tds good for WR1 type 15 ppr ppg. Given that Cook is going to be cutting into the middle of the field production pie, the chances for injury resulting from Austin's stature, and his rookie status, I expect him to fall short of these "ceiling" numbers. The Rams did buck the trend by taking a slot guy in the first round, but it made real life football sense given their development plan at the outside positions. I don't see it equating to a fantasy slam-dunk. I picked Pettis up off the post-draft FA market after losing another WR to injury, hoping that the majority of the non-Cook redzone looks go to him because of his size. p.s. Amendola got destroyed every year, and he is listed at 5' 11" / 188lbs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphster 274 Posted August 7, 2013 Solid info FFS. I have Givens in several leagues this year for similar reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Criper 24 Posted August 7, 2013 I think this is a very wrong perception. The rams have been investing draft picks in their skill positions, including: Quick (2012 / Round 2, Pick 1), Givens (2012 / Round 4, Pick 1), Pettis (2011 / Round 3, Pick 14), not to mention the acquisition of TE Jared Cook. That's a lot of young receivers hitting maturity. They'll need to get their looks, and an offense usually wins more games when spreading the ball around. Givens and Pettis are starting on the outside, leaving Austin to take over Amendola's role. If you project Amendola's 2012 #s across a full 16 game season, you get a solid 100 / 1065 / 5 tds good for WR1 type 15 ppr ppg. Given that Cook is going to be cutting into the middle of the field production pie, the chances for injury resulting from Austin's stature, and his rookie status, I expect him to fall short of these "ceiling" numbers. The Rams did buck the trend by taking a slot guy in the first round, but it made real life football sense given their development plan at the outside positions. I don't see it equating to a fantasy slam-dunk. I picked Pettis up off the post-draft FA market after losing another WR to injury, hoping that the majority of the non-Cook redzone looks go to him because of his size. p.s. Amendola got destroyed every year, and he is listed at 5' 11" / 188lbs. Good stuff right here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmm57 0 Posted August 7, 2013 Keeper league, .25 PPR I got him as the 30th WR off the board (counting keepers). Garcon, Steve Smith and Desean Jackson were the next WRs off the board Torrey Smith, TY Hilton and James Jones went right before. We start 3 WR, and I would have liked to get him as my WR3, but the way it fell he is my WR2 (Unless you like Lance Moore better). Looking back, I maybe wish I had gone Garcon or Steve Smith for this season, but with the keeper option I was intrigued by his upside. His size really worries me looking back on my team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,258 Posted August 7, 2013 Keeper league, .25 PPR I got him as the 30th WR off the board (counting keepers). Garcon, Steve Smith and Desean Jackson were the next WRs off the board Torrey Smith, TY Hilton and James Jones went right before. We start 3 WR, and I would have liked to get him as my WR3, but the way it fell he is my WR2 (Unless you like Lance Moore better). Looking back, I maybe wish I had gone Garcon or Steve Smith for this season, but with the keeper option I was intrigued by his upside. His size really worries me looking back on my team. Whats the point of .25 ppr? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmm57 0 Posted August 7, 2013 Its just what the setting has been for years. We all thought 1 point was too much, it ended up being .25. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,258 Posted August 7, 2013 Its just what the setting has been for years. We all thought 1 point was too much, it ended up being .25. Playing fantasy football scared is no way to go through life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted August 7, 2013 I remember the McCluster hype also. Similar player, albeit more talented imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirensong 111 Posted August 7, 2013 Whats the point of .25 ppr? 4 receptions. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fantasy Noob 10 Posted August 8, 2013 I would also consider the NFC West defenses he will face for 6 games out of the year. Seattle's secondary is elite, San Francisco is pretty good, and Arizona isn't exactly a slouch either (on defense, god help carson palmer behind that O-line). I also don't think of big offense numbers for WR's when I think of any of Fishers old Titans teams, I view the RB as the focal point of his offenses. He's a rookie, a WR and a small rookie WR . I just don't see him lighting up the league this year. It may just be me but I don't think Bradford is all that good either, I think his WR's where a convient excuse, he's starting to remind me of Alex Smith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites