Trent Richardson Traded to Colts

[FeelingMN 273]

I don't subscribe to PFF but reading some past analysis leads me to believe pass pro probably isn't a big deal as they measure it.

 

 

Let’s start off by looking at which running back has given up the most pressure… something that doesn’t make good reading for Philadelphia Eagles fans. That does, of course, mean that LeSean McCoy leads the way with 32 combined sacks, hits, and hurries given up. That’s four more than the men in second spot, Matt Forte and Frank Gore. The Top 5 is filled with feature backs who rarely come off the field, rounded out with Chris Johnson and Steven Jackson as players who have more of an opportunity to give up pressure.

 

Maybe you guys were calling for McCoy and Forte to be pulled because of their pass pro?

 

As long as a RB doesn't get his QB blown up, they'll be good enough in pass pro. And lets put Richardson's numbers in context....CLE played MIA and BAL....two teams great at getting after the QB. A little unfair to say he hasn't worked on pass pro.

[Serpent 51]

I don't subscribe to PFF but reading some past analysis leads me to believe pass pro probably isn't a big deal as they measure it.

 

 

 

 

Maybe you guys were calling for McCoy and Forte to be pulled because of their pass pro?

 

As long as a RB doesn't get his QB blown up, they'll be good enough in pass pro. And lets put Richardson's numbers in context....CLE played MIA and BAL....two teams great at getting after the QB. A little unfair to say he hasn't worked on pass pro.

 

Most RBs are not very good at pass protection. You have a 300 lb guy with a running head start, and you as a stationary 220 lb, if that, RB are going to stonewall him? It's a very rare RB that is really good at pass pro. Pretty much just Clinton Portis, Brandon Jacobs are the two big standout RBs. LT2, AP were considered weak to mediocre. Guys like CJ Spiller and McCoy don't even really try at all.

 

Your TEs and OTs are supposed to be your primary pass blockers. Your RB is just supposed to chip most of the time or delay a blitz. The QB's job is to identify the blitz and get the ball out quickly when that happens, to their hot. They aren't supposed to stand around expecting the pass blocking to hold up because there is an extra RB to pick up the blitz, nor do they expect the OTs to just get beat like rented mules. You have big problems if you are relying on your RB to be your best pass blocker or even a TE level pass blocker.

 

Sooner rather than later the talented RBs wind up starting. The only reason they might be two down backs is because there is a better pass catcher on the roster, not that they can't pass block. If you can catch passes you're a 3 down back.

[JT 137]

Question for Cleveland fans or those who follow them closer than I do: wasn't the O-line supposed to be the strength of this team going into the season? Is it still perceived as such?

[JT 137]

 

Your TEs and OTs are supposed to be your primary pass blockers. Your RB is just supposed to chip most of the time or delay a blitz. The QB's job is to identify the blitz and get the ball out quickly when that happens, to their hot. They aren't supposed to stand around expecting the pass blocking to hold up because there is an extra RB to pick up the blitz, nor do they expect the OTs to just get beat like rented mules. You have big problems if you are relying on your RB to be your best pass blocker or even a TE level pass blocker.

 

Sooner rather than later the talented RBs wind up starting. The only reason they might be two down backs is because there is a better pass catcher on the roster, not that they can't pass block. If you can catch passes you're a 3 down back.

 

While I don't disagree with your premise, the ability to read the rush and understanding of responsibilities is a big part of pass pro for a RB. When referring to a guy who isn't good in that aspect, it's usually more about his understanding of his role and commitment to execution, rather than his ability to go toe-to-toe with a rushing defender. Though there are a few who really stick their nose in there, and they tend to have a job as long as they want one.

 

The other thing that keeps nagging at me with Richardson is the inability to make anything happen past the line of scrimmage. At that second and third tier of the defense is where big backs with a bit of speed can do a lot of damage vs smaller guys, but he just hasn't gotten it done.

 

That's why my earlier post re the Browns O-line. Is that the issue? Or is the guy just not the talent that people thought he was?

[The Hood 9]

I don't subscribe to PFF but reading some past analysis leads me to believe pass pro probably isn't a big deal as they measure it.

 

 

 

 

Maybe you guys were calling for McCoy and Forte to be pulled because of their pass pro?

 

As long as a RB doesn't get his QB blown up, they'll be good enough in pass pro. And lets put Richardson's numbers in context....CLE played MIA and BAL....two teams great at getting after the QB. A little unfair to say he hasn't worked on pass pro.

I don't recall McCoy or Forte being traded away either so maybe Trent doesn't quite deserve to be compared to them.

 

As a Bears fan and a 3 time Shady owner I can tell you neither is good in pass protection. Shady is too dynamic to take out......but Forte in the past has lost playing time on 3rd downs due to better guys in pass protection behind him. As was all I warned about with Bradshaw since he is so good at it.