Should eliminated teams be picking up players?

[BTL99 34]

So if some team has been eliminated from the playoffs in your league, should they still be allowed to pick up players?

 

What about dropping players. They should be dropping any good players right?

 

I'm guessing the way you get around this is by giving a high score every week or having some kind of incentive for the other teams.

[posty 2,696]

My league is a keeper league, so yes...

[murf74 461]

So if some team has been eliminated from the playoffs in your league, should they still be allowed to pick up players?

 

What about dropping players. They should be dropping any good players right?

 

I'm guessing the way you get around this is by giving a high score every week or having some kind of incentive for the other teams.

It's still regular season hell yeah they can make as many transactions as they want. To ask is so weak

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

Why would a team that is 2-9 and is out of contention for anything be picking up players?

 

You probably think it's ok if they start dropping good players too right?

 

You clearly don't understand what I was asking.

 

To quote Herm Edwards "You play to win the game"

 

What's more illegitimate:

a. A guy that's out of playoff contention picking up a WW player to try and improve his final position (or to do better in consolation bracket)

 

or

 

b. A guy getting an easy win because their opponent is out of playoff contention and are fielding a P.O.S. team or inactive players?

 

I'll take a.

 

Last year I battled to get out of 10th place at the end of the most brutal FF year I've ever had. Was making moves right up to the end.

[BTL99 34]

 

To quote Herm Edwards "You play to win the game"

 

What's more illegitimate:

a. A guy that's out of playoff contention picking up a WW player to try and improve his final position (or to do better in consolation bracket)

 

or

 

b. A guy getting an easy win because their opponent is out of playoff contention and are fielding a P.O.S. team or inactive players?

 

I'll take a.

 

Last year I battled to get out of 10th place at the end of the most brutal FF year I've ever had. Was making moves right up to the end.

 

I agree with you there.

 

But what about dropping players. Should the guy who just picked up Bobby Rainey be allowed to drop him 2 days later and let the "worst" team that is still in the playoff hunt pick him up?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

I agree with you there.

 

But what about dropping players. Should the guy who just picked up Bobby Rainey be allowed to drop him 2 days later and let the "worst" team that is still in the playoff hunt pick him up?

 

Well, if a guy makes a suspect move then the commish could lock his roster.

 

Now Rainey MIGHT be good ROS........he has some tough Defenses ahead of him and there's an element of risk/reward to him.

 

Outright dropping someone like Zac Stacey or someone like that would raise some real concern.

[BTL99 34]

 

Well, if a guy makes a suspect move then the commish could lock his roster.

 

Now Rainey MIGHT be good ROS........he has some tough Defenses ahead of him and there's an element of risk/reward to him.

 

Outright dropping someone like Zac Stacey or someone like that would raise some real concern.

 

Ok, that is what I was wondering.

 

I thought for sure people would just say it's ok to drop whoever you want anytime.

[JTB 52]

Ok, that is what I was wondering.

 

I thought for sure people would just say it's ok to drop whoever you want anytime.

Let me give you my scenario. I need a miracle to make my leagues playoffs. We start 1 QB and I have 3 albeit none are must starts though. (N. Foles, B. Rothleisberger and A. Dalton). I certainly don't need all 3 of them and have been trying to trade Dalton for 2 weeks with no avail. So, I dropped him for Brandon Jacobs as I had Sproles and J. Bell to fill in at RB 2.

[rallo 136]

It's still regular season hell yeah they can make as many transactions as they want. To ask is so weak

 

This, as long as they are picking up players to better their team each week, and not having a yard sale then yes...

 

ask yourself this...

 

Is it ok for teams out of it to not give a fock and let their last 3 opponents have a cake walk?

[IGotWorms 4,058]

So if some team has been eliminated from the playoffs in your league, should they still be allowed to pick up players?

 

What about dropping players. They should be dropping any good players right?

 

I'm guessing the way you get around this is by giving a high score every week or having some kind of incentive for the other teams.

Yes.

 

Only exception is they can't purposefully drop good players. And I'm not talking a WR3, I mean dropping top tier guys.

[BTL99 34]

Let me give you my scenario. I need a miracle to make my leagues playoffs. We start 1 QB and I have 3 albeit none are must starts though. (N. Foles, B. Rothleisberger and A. Dalton). I certainly don't need all 3 of them and have been trying to trade Dalton for 2 weeks with no avail. So, I dropped him for Brandon Jacobs as I had Sproles and J. Bell to fill in at RB 2.

Yeah, I see no problem with that at all.

[BTL99 34]

 

This, as long as they are picking up players to better their team each week, and not having a yard sale then yes...

 

ask yourself this...

 

Is it ok for teams out of it to not give a fock and let their last 3 opponents have a cake walk?

No, not at all. I want them to field a team that is competitive, I just don't want them dropping anyone that really shouldn't be dropped.

[BTL99 34]

Yes.

 

Only exception is they can't purposefully drop good players. And I'm not talking a WR3, I mean dropping top tier guys.

Ok. Perfect.

[5Year1 23]

I have one team that is all but eliminated from the playoffs and just like always I am playing to the end, even in week 13. I would never drop or dump players in spite but if there is a good player on waivers, I have just as much right to take them as anyone else.

 

Last week, I got rid of "I'm fed up with you" Trent Richardson to stash Crabtree and yesterday, won the waiver wire derby for Rainey.

[Huh? 7]

They 100% definitely need to be picking up players if they have anybody injured or on bye week and nobody to replace them with. If they can field an active roster without making a pickup, then it is up to them whether they feel like trying to improve their team.

[joeshushu 51]

I am almost eliminated but I am making moves. I blew my wad so I am only picking players that have cleared all money transactions. If I didn't play hard to the end people would complain that I am giving opponents free wins to help their cause.

[AnaheimRams 28]

If there is nothing left to play for (draft position, toilet bowl, weekly prizes, etc) teams eliminated from the playoffs should have their rosters locked. No trades... no add/drops.

 

Saves a lot of headaches.

[Giants Fan 85]

I think that once a team is eliminated from the playoffs, it's roster should be frozen.

[madd futher mucker 36]

I think that once a team is eliminated from the playoffs, it's roster should be frozen.

 

I disagree completely. While I believe that leagues should impose a reasonable trading deadline for ALL owners (such as before week 10 or week 11 games)in order to avoid shady trades, i believe that the Waiver Wire should be open to ALL owners, even in re-draft leagues. Barring a total miracle, i have been eliminated from play-off hopes for one of my 1/2 dozen teams (and yes, it was is a re-draft league.).

 

However, mainly for the sake of salvaging some pride, I am still competing as if i had a real chance to make the play-offs. I'd love to play the spoiler role and win both my week 12 and week 13 games. no way am I going to make it easy for anyone i play to win their play-off spot.

[swirvenirvin 25]

yeah they paid their money.. Obviously not once in the playoffs.

 

We play for weekly high weeks so always incentive up to week 13.

 

Also if someone is not trying that kind of gives the opponent an unfair advantage over someone who played them when they were "trying"

 

100% yes

[AnaheimRams 28]

 

I disagree completely. While I believe that leagues should impose a reasonable trading deadline for ALL owners (such as before week 10 or week 11 games)in order to avoid shady trades, i believe that the Waiver Wire should be open to ALL owners, even in re-draft leagues. Barring a total miracle, i have been eliminated from play-off hopes for one of my 1/2 dozen teams (and yes, it was is a re-draft league.).

 

However, mainly for the sake of salvaging some pride, I am still competing as if i had a real chance to make the play-offs. I'd love to play the spoiler role and win both my week 12 and week 13 games. no way am I going to make it easy for anyone i play to win thier play-off spot.

 

Good points... but I still disagree with you. It eliminates shadiness and stupidity... and (not as important) keeps teams that are out of it from grabbing top FA's with their higher waiver position that aren't doing them any good.

 

However... I will say that locking rosters is also not a good solution. Leagues I have run always have something for all teams to play for every week. Total points champ and/or a penalty for lowest weekly score and bonus for highest weekly score (basically, lowest score pays highest score).

 

Keeps all teams engaged and prevents dumping.

[Rob g 1]

This is why I advocate 8 playoff teams in 12 team leagues to avoid scenarios like this as of now only 1 team is out of playoffs

[NYFG 2]

You want your league to be competitive to the end, correct ?..Im one of those whos currently 3-7 and still making moves...Finish strong is what its all about..

[LaChup 233]

I say yes. What better way to screw with the teams still in it. Besides, it's fantasy football. Anything goes.

[tigeru 65]

I saw a fantasy league profile of 12 teams with 6 of them in the playoffs over 6 years and 10 out of 36 that started 0-1 made the playoffs and 4 out of 23 that started 0-2 did and none that started worse than 0-2 did. How do you motivate? Or do you prefer the 8 teams?

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Can't believe there are people who are advocating freezing rosters or whatever. Maybe on an individual basis if some pissant tries to sabotage the league but generally that's an awful idea.

 

I'd be focking pissed if I missed the playoffs because somebody else got a cupcake game against a guy who wasn't even allowed to field an entire lineup (and probably quit managing altogether as soon as his team was locked).

 

And on the flip side whenever I'm eliminated from the playoffs I like to try to play spoiler. I remain competitive right up til the end as any decent owner does.

 

Stupid, stupid debate to even have IMO.

[Giants Fan 85]

It depends. If it is with a group of friends that is one thing. If it is with strangers online ... I don;t want some angry loser to be able to blow his remaining FA$ he shoulda spent earlier just to piss me off. I will do whatever it takes within the rules. For instance this week in my league (where non playoff teams are frozen) I am churning, picking up 3 QBs and calk blocking my opponent, make him hafta start Fitzpatrick. I am going to waive them right away, kind of a d!ck move, but hey, this is for money, and it's not against the rules.

[murf74 461]

If there is nothing left to play for (draft position, toilet bowl, weekly prizes, etc) teams eliminated from the playoffs should have their rosters locked. No trades... no add/drops.

 

Saves a lot of headaches.

Thats bs

[SaintsInDome2006 441]

Yes, they should.

 

Stay in it, be competitive `til the end.

 

Some team in week 12 shouldn't get a break when someone else had to face their opponent in week 3 at full strength.

[jeffkomlo 19]

If you froze my team I would go to your house and punch you in the face in front of your wife and kids

And BLT this is worse than your Calvin Johnson thread. thread You play to win or be a spoiler HAVE YOU NO PRIDE?

[Giants Fan 85]

If you froze my team I would go to your house and punch you in the face in front of your wife and kids

And BLT this is worse than your Calvin Johnson thread. thread You play to win or be a spoiler HAVE YOU NO PRIDE?

 

If your 0-11 team that didn't do anything all year, started injured players and players on a bye, and then woke up week 12 and outbid me on free agents I needed in the playoffs .... just out of spite ... I would piss in your mailbox.

[giraldi02 474]

What I do in the only league I'm a commissioner in is I reset the waiver wire accordingly each and every week once someone is officially mathematically eliminated. Its consistent waiver priority that doesn't reset based on w/l record (no FAAB either unfortunately) Teams that are eliminated from contention get bumped down to below the contending teams, and once initial waivers have been processed on Wednesday morning I adjust accordingly back to the order they would have been, sans the teams that put claims in. Yes this is a bit of work for me to record where waivers were prior to adjusting them...but that's my job as a commissioner IMHO.

 

When the playoffs start I do the same thing for the teams that steadily become eliminated from cash prizes. Again, its tedious at times, but if you don't want that amount of work, join someone else's league.

[Serpent 51]

People whine when owners give up on their fantasy teams because they're doing badly that year, and then people whine when owners are still trying to win games even if they're out of it.

 

People just whine in fantasy, it truly is a game for nerds and virgins.

[Serpent 51]

It depends. If it is with a group of friends that is one thing. If it is with strangers online ... I don;t want some angry loser to be able to blow his remaining FA$ he shoulda spent earlier just to piss me off. I will do whatever it takes within the rules. For instance this week in my league (where non playoff teams are frozen) I am churning, picking up 3 QBs and calk blocking my opponent, make him hafta start Fitzpatrick. I am going to waive them right away, kind of a d!ck move, but hey, this is for money, and it's not against the rules.

 

Those are some poor rules, in my leagues you have to hold a player for a certain amount of time before they go to waivers. Otherwise they're available for pickup as soon as you drop them. If you meant hold through the actual games, that's a different story of course, but if you are just saying you're picking up and dropping players instantly, that's just poor waiver wire rules.

[AnaheimRams 28]

Thats bs

 

Sorry...

[Giants Fan 85]

 

Those are some poor rules, in my leagues you have to hold a player for a certain amount of time before they go to waivers. Otherwise they're available for pickup as soon as you drop them. If you meant hold through the actual games, that's a different story of course, but if you are just saying you're picking up and dropping players instantly, that's just poor waiver wire rules.

 

It's a bit of a loophole due to Thursday night games every week this year. 2 waiver periods, Wed and Friday. If I pick up a player WEd, I can still waive that player Friday, and he's not available.

 

Actually, in the (refdraft) league I am playing in this year, not only are non-playoff teams rosters locked, but any offensive player waived, starting I think 2 weeks ago ... can't be picked back up by any team. Done for the year. Defenses and kickers excluded.

 

I couldn't waive Greg Jennings fast enough.

 

It's to prevent collusion, and I like it.

 

I also like, that I can use these rules to my advantage, if my opponents don't understand them. It's a poker game. I am making moves, within the rules, to try and win. Too bad if you don't like it.

[chroniciguana 13]

If you accept that check entitling me to participate in a full season of Fantasy Football, I expect you to honor that purchase. If not, if you lock me out of full participation prior to the end of the regular season, please be prepared to remit a pro-rated refund for the balance of that season.

[Giants Fan 85]

If you accept that check entitling me to participate in a full season of Fantasy Football, I expect you to honor that purchase. If not, if you lock me out of full participation prior to the end of the regular season, please be prepared to remit a pro-rated refund for the balance of that season.

 

No. Wrong. It doesn't work that way. The league rules do not bend to what you think is appropriate. The league rules are the rules. If you read the rules and you joined, and they are following the rules ... and we have discussed the reasons for these rules .... too bad, that's the rules. Shoulda read the rules. Don't blame the people that are enforcing the rules ... go find a league with rules you like.

 

A-holes like you that want to back out because they are not happy ... and think the rules should not apply to them, is the reason we have rules in the first place, and everyone pays up before the draft.

 

Don't be that guy.

[phillygrrl08 139]

In my two money leagues, the highest scoring team on the last week of playoffs gets their entry money back. This keeps it competitive all the way through and means all talk of locking teams has been silenced.

[GreenTD 56]

It depends. If it is with a group of friends that is one thing. If it is with strangers online ... I don;t want some angry loser to be able to blow his remaining FA$ he shoulda spent earlier just to piss me off. I will do whatever it takes within the rules. For instance this week in my league (where non playoff teams are frozen) I am churning, picking up 3 QBs and calk blocking my opponent, make him hafta start Fitzpatrick. I am going to waive them right away, kind of a d!ck move, but hey, this is for money, and it's not against the rules.

If it's within your rules, whatever. But as commissioner in my keeper league, I have a rule against picking up multiple players at one position to calk block another owner who has bye week/injury woes to that same position.

 

If someone wants to burn their waiver priority on the perceived best option off the WW, that's fine. But picking up a kicker & dropping them & then doing this over & over to prevent your opponent from fielding a player at that position is prohibited.