Why income inequality matters

[MDC 8,011]

They get the food stamps so they can spend their money on X-Boxes, big screen TVs, designer clothes. Etc. They would not need the food stamps if they spent their money on needs instead of wants. HTH

 

Obesity is a major problem of the American poor. Go figure.

Ah the old blame the victim rather than admit there's a problem dodge, gotta live it.

 

Are people lazier today than they used to be? I don't know, seems to me companies ask their employees to do far more than before and essentially be connected / online at all times. Profits and productivity are sky high while real wages remain stagnant.

 

It's easier to focus on the welfare crack moms though.

[Phurfur 70]

Why don't all these income inequality people risk their own money to start a business where they can pay everyone $16 an hour? I think we all know why.

[RLLD 4,275]

Why don't all these income inequality people risk their own money to start a business where they can pay everyone $16 an hour? I think we all know why.

 

Beacuse the world is culturally biased?

[IGotWorms 4,063]

Once again, his link addresses 2009-2012.

 

I addressed the income disparity by pointing out the solution is creating jobs. Then pointed out that during the time period his link deals with Obamacare forced companies to refuse, or postpone, hiring until they know how it will affect them after it is implemented.

 

I have not read anything you posted that actually addressed the issue. I did see where you had your usual knee-jerk reaction: BUSH!

 

One trick pony indeed.

What you're missing here is that it is quite possible--nay, likely--that Obama's policies have failed to reduce income inequality AND that there is some much broader, systemic problem driving that ever-widening inequality.

 

So you're right, Obama has failed at fixing the problem of income inequality. Good for you, I'm sure that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy. But it doesn't really address the actual problem, now does it?

[KSB2424 3,174]

The middle class got fat and lazy. The world got smaller due to technology. The End.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

What you're missing here is that it is quite possible--nay, likely--that Obama's policies have failed to reduce income inequality

It is up under Obama.

 

HTH

[IGotWorms 4,063]

The middle class got fat and lazy. The world got smaller due to technology. The End.

Are you fat and lazy? Or are you upper class?

[IGotWorms 4,063]

It is up under Obama.

 

HTH

No focking sh!t you retard. Again, we're talking at about a 40 year trend here so focusing on only the last 5 is pretty g0ddamn stupid.

 

Holy hell do you have a one-track mind or what? It's focking pathological man, get help

[Recliner Pilot 61]

No focking sh!t you retard. Again, we're talking at about a 40 year trend here so focusing on only the last 5 is pretty g0ddamn stupid

 

 

Why did you choose a link that did just that?

[NewbieJr 541]

No focking sh!t you retard. Again, we're talking at about a 40 year trend here so focusing on only the last 5 is pretty g0ddamn stupid.

 

Holy hell do you have a one-track mind or what? It's focking pathological man, get help

to ask him to look beyond that is just us lemmings crying about Bush. Lolol. One. Trick. Pony.

[Geezil 25]

What you're missing here is that it is quite possible--nay, likely--that Obama's policies have failed to reduce income inequality AND that there is some much broader, systemic problem driving that ever-widening inequality.

 

So you're right, Obama has failed at fixing the problem of income inequality. Good for you, I'm sure that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy. But it doesn't really address the actual problem, now does it?

Well written, maybe, but solution is ....? He walked into an economy that was kinda crap, right? The rich have continued to get richer and the rest are floundering but have votes, one apiece. So the solution lies where?

 

I can tell you from ground level that the masses are pissed. What is the solution?

[KSB2424 3,174]

Are you fat and lazy? Or are you upper class?

 

I feel as if I need to explain something to you, Worms, how this posting stuff works. Here, and in most places where people are disucssing broad ranging topics its inferred that we use generalizations. When somebody says "Republicans" they don't mean every single republican. When somebody says African Americans, they don't mean every single AA. When somebody says The middle class, they don't mean every single person in the middle class. Rather, what is inferred, is that we are discussing the group as a whole. On a macro level, as in the group is trending that way or the "majority" of folks in that group are trending that way.

 

I'm fairly certain most folks get this point but for some reason this needs to spelled out to you.

[NorthernVike 2,100]

Let me get this straight....The guy who starts a thread about building a new home is also biotching about income inequality?

[Geezil 25]

Let me get this straight....The guy who starts a thread about building a new home is also biotching about income inequality?

He can follow rules and he kept his word though. Maybe that's why he's building a house.

[drobeski 3,061]

Well written, maybe, but solution is ....? He walked into an economy that was kinda crap, right? The rich have continued to get richer and the rest are floundering but have votes, one apiece. So the solution lies where?

 

I can tell you from ground level that the masses are pissed. What is the solution?

which masses are pissed? the unemployable bead sellers ?

[Geezil 25]

Yadayada.

[Geezil 25]

ur not even quatable

 

quotable?

[Geezil 25]

either way, ur not dude

[drobeski 3,061]

[Geezil 25]

What would be the definition of quatable? Is there such a thing as a kumkwat? How is that spelled? Quatable could be sexually doable. That's how I will define it. I just coined a word.

[Geezil 25]

What do you think of her? (friend points)

 

I don't know. I guess she's quatable.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

 

I feel as if I need to explain something to you, Worms, how this posting stuff works. Here, and in most places where people are disucssing broad ranging topics its inferred that we use generalizations. When somebody says "Republicans" they don't mean every single republican. When somebody says African Americans, they don't mean every single AA. When somebody says The middle class, they don't mean every single person in the middle class. Rather, what is inferred, is that we are discussing the group as a whole. On a macro level, as in the group is trending that way or the "majority" of folks in that group are trending that way.

 

I'm fairly certain most folks get this point but for some reason this needs to spelled out to you.

So in other words, you're better than everyone else. The middle class is generally fat and lazy but oh no, not you.

 

Guess what? Not me either. Or most everyone else I know that are considered "middle class." Something to think about there.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

Let me get this straight....The guy who starts a thread about building a new home is also biotching about income inequality?

I'm doing pretty well, yes, but my wife and I both did seven years of higher education to get where we are. I don't think the average person can or should have to do that just to get by. Also as well as things are going for us we do always have ginormous student loan debt hanging over our heads.

[5-Points 3,831]

$16.00 / hr minimum wage should take care of this problem, right?

Seems to me you'd have to make $16.00 / hr the maximum wage if you want to do away with "income inequality". Of course the hypocrites that b!tch about this "crisis" would never go for something like that because they would actually have to participate in the solution by taking a pay cut instead of demanding somebody else fork over the extra money to make everything fair.

[drobeski 3,061]

Seems to me you'd have to make $16.00 / hr the maximum wage if you want to do away with "income inequality". Of course the hypocrites that b!tch about this "crisis" would never go for something like that because they would actually have to participate in the solution by taking a pay cut instead of demanding somebody else fork over the extra money to make everything fair.

nailed

[NorthernVike 2,100]

I'm doing pretty well, yes, but my wife and I both did seven years of higher education to get where we are. I don't think the average person can or should have to do that just to get by. Also as well as things are going for us we do always have ginormous student loan debt hanging over our heads.

Why shouldn't the average person have to apply themselves to succeed in life?

[IGotWorms 4,063]

Why shouldn't the average person have to apply themselves to succeed in life?

That's clearly not what I said or implied.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

I think Worms has his panties in a bunch over this cuz his local Red Lobster closed down and now he can't get 30 shrimp for $9.99.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

I think Worms has his panties in a bunch over this cuz his local Red Lobster closed down and now he can't get 30 shrimp for $9.99.

I'm from Alaska. We had seafood up there you dumb focks in Texas up there could never even dream of. So needless to say, I don't eat at red lobster.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

I'm from Alaska. We had seafood up there you dumb focks in Texas up there could never even dream of. So needless to say, I don't eat at red lobster.

mmmmmm...........whale blubber.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

mmmmmm...........whale blubber.

I actually have had that for sh!ts and grins. But mainly I was referring to fresh salmon, fresh halibut, fresh dungeness crab, fresh shrimp, etc., etc., some of which I hauled from the ocean myself.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Relax Worms, mebbe your sh!thole town will get one of them Bubba Gump's to replace your Red Lobster.

[MTSkiBum 1,626]

Here is what I would do to address income inequality.

 

Ban corn ethanol, it drives up the price of food and it drives up the price of gasoline. These are 2 of the largest expenses for the poor.

Take all subsidies for solar power and wind power and I would move them to nuclear power. Nuclear is a proven technology, where as solar and wind are very poor stop-gap measures.

Open up fracking and energy development full throttle. This would be a double wammy of creating high paying-low skill laborer jobs and it would also drive down the price of energy which would help the poor out.

Work a deal with Canada to really open up their lumber industry. Americans work all the time in Canada, this would help Americans out and it would also drive down the price of lumber which would drive down new housing costs.

 

 

 

Every single one of these ideas reduces the cost of basic living expenses: food, shelter, home energy, and travel energy. A few of them even provide good paying jobs to low skill workers.

[jerryskids 7,162]

Here is what I would do to address income inequality.

 

Ban corn ethanol, it drives up the price of food and it drives up the price of gasoline. These are 2 of the largest expenses for the poor.

Take all subsidies for solar power and wind power and I would move them to nuclear power. Nuclear is a proven technology, where as solar and wind are very poor stop-gap measures.

Open up fracking and energy development full throttle. This would be a double wammy of creating high paying-low skill laborer jobs and it would also drive down the price of energy which would help the poor out.

Work a deal with Canada to really open up their lumber industry. Americans work all the time in Canada, this would help Americans out and it would also drive down the price of lumber which would drive down new housing costs.

 

 

 

Every single one of these ideas reduces the cost of basic living expenses: food, shelter, home energy, and travel energy. A few of them even provide good paying jobs to low skill workers.

No one wants actual solutions, dummy. The point is to complain about CEO pay and push for wealth redistribution.

[TD Ryan2 316]

Here is what I would do to address income inequality.

 

Ban corn ethanol, it drives up the price of food and it drives up the price of gasoline. These are 2 of the largest expenses for the poor.

Take all subsidies for solar power and wind power and I would move them to nuclear power. Nuclear is a proven technology, where as solar and wind are very poor stop-gap measures.

Open up fracking and energy development full throttle. This would be a double wammy of creating high paying-low skill laborer jobs and it would also drive down the price of energy which would help the poor out.

Work a deal with Canada to really open up their lumber industry. Americans work all the time in Canada, this would help Americans out and it would also drive down the price of lumber which would drive down new housing costs.

 

 

 

Every single one of these ideas reduces the cost of basic living expenses: food, shelter, home energy, and travel energy. A few of them even provide good paying jobs to low skill workers.

appreciate the effort - at least you're offering up something. But...

 

- We Chernobyl and Fukushima ourselves with nuclear energy

- We chop down all the trees

- We destroy the food supplies and environments with fracking

 

the beauty of it is that if you just do it all at once, nobody could really pinpoint how the earth got scorched, only that it happened, but we all have fistsfull of dollars now and can buy spaceships to go live on Mars.

 

just preparing you for the opposition.

[edjr 6,988]

where on any issue do I indicate my rooting party ? link ? I criticize the dnc for it's continuous fake wars...and will continue to do so. you claim to not be a moonbat but only defend them...mmmmm interesting

 

I don't have an opinion, either way. I don't know enough about it to render an opinion.

 

I do know that conservatives and liberals are both focking insane.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

 

 

I do know that conservatives and liberals are both focking insane.

This. Too many people let others tell them what they should think. We were all born with our own brains. We are allowed to make decisions all by ourselves. It's hilarious to me that I can know certain people's opinions on topics long before I open threads. Very few people here sway very far from the 'party line'.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

In any political thread I can predict the group that will cry about Bush.

 

Don't know which hack will be first to the party, but at least one will show up.

[TD Ryan2 316]

We were all born with our own brains. We are allowed to make decisions all by ourselves.

THIS is why people are going to take more of a libertarian view (some people). Here's why:

 

The Conservatives essentially want to enslave the masses within the capitalistic system - a system that produces factory workers for factory owners. A system where the workers make enough to survive and consume whatever the factories make and they know enough to work/produce in the factories. There is an elite class (owners), a working class (employees), and a lower class (uneducated rule breakers who can not conform to factory standards).

Conservatives argue that this model is "fair" b/c it is performance and ability based. But we all know the system is skewed to keep the wealthy wealthy and the workers working.

 

The Liberals just want to take care or EVERYONE. Spread the wealth. Give to everyone regardless of effort/education/etc. They believe this is more fair than the corrupt/false "fairness" of the conservative system. But the truth is, this approach just encourages underachievement.

 

The new economy - the "connection economy" takes the control away from the factory owners. and empowers the individual to create something on his own - without the need for a factory or hundreds of workers following SOPs. You no longer need huge amounts of capital and a brick/mortar building to start a business. You no longer need millions in advertising to reach niche' groups of customers. You no longer need massive buying power and bulk discounts to compete.

The individual has more power than ever to become an expert in any subject and leverage that expertise to make a living. Self promotion and self-broadcasting are easy today with all the social/blog/youtube/etc available. We no longer live in a one-size fits all where Henry Ford makes any color you want as long as it is Black.There is a niche for everything from sottware to clothes to food. Look at books/movies/and music today - more than ever is sold but the variety is greater than ever. This will be the case with all good/services.

This is how the individual can elevate himself into the new "20%". And that individual will want very little involvement from government and corporations.

 

The point of this rant is that Conservative and Liberal is dead. It's an old-world fight for the industrial revolution era of big business, big government, and big labor - they might as well be Torres vs. Whigs with how irrelevant their political agendas will soon be (10, 20 years)?.

[MTSkiBum 1,626]

appreciate the effort - at least you're offering up something. But...

 

- We Chernobyl and Fukushima ourselves with nuclear energy

- We chop down all the trees

- We destroy the food supplies and environments with fracking

 

the beauty of it is that if you just do it all at once, nobody could really pinpoint how the earth got scorched, only that it happened, but we all have fistsfull of dollars now and can buy spaceships to go live on Mars.

 

just preparing you for the opposition.

 

Both of those nuclear reactors were Soviet designed in the mid 70's. I do not let 40 year old Soviet technology influence my views on nuclear power.

 

Canada has plenty of trees and logging can be done responsibly.

 

Fracking is environmentally safe. Why it gets a bad name has nothing to do with the fracking process. The lawsuits happen on low profit wells when the smaller companies cut corners on cementing and casing the well. As a compromise to opening up more oil and gas resources to fracking stricter regulations could be placed on casing of the wells.