Looks like I'm getting a divorce

[Voltaire 5,491]

 

if you only knew what women really thought...

 

 

Ladies, do future generations a favor and teach your sons to cook, clean and do laundry so they don't grow up to be the kind of useless a$$holes most women on this site seem to be married to!

 

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[Voltaire 5,491]

Men, do future generations a favor and teach your daughters to fix things, walk the dog, mow the lawn and take personal responsibility so they don't grow up to be the kind of useless b1tches most men on this site seem to be married to!

 

and kill bugs/spiders. What's up with the universal unnerved screaming and calling for help?

[BudBro 183]

Men, do future generations a favor and teach your daughters to fix things, walk the dog, mow the lawn and take personal responsibility so they don't grow up to be the kind of useless b1tches most men on this site seem to be married to!

 

as the fathers of sons, it is clear, even from this very thread, that men feel the need to gain manly validation from the conquest of the woman, or a lot of them. you can also see how years are spent building families and dreams and assets only to see them split up and other men becoming the head of households over our sons and the women that belong to us by their own vows (i say that "us" as this family of geeks that reside here).

 

i feel deep concern for the young women growing up in this culture. there will be none for our boys that are unaffected by sexual abuse, divorce, and abandonment. our sons have little hope of finding a woman of virtue or character. the feelings and selfishness of parents needing their own needs met leave our children in their wakes. our sons have little hope of finding a girl that saw a strong father stand in the fire and perform, and a helpful, faithful mother stand in the fire alongside him.

[kilroy69 1,268]

as the fathers of sons, it is clear, even from this very thread, that men feel the need to gain manly validation from the conquest of the woman, or a lot of them. you can also see how years are spent building families and dreams and assets only to see them split up and other men becoming the head of households over our sons and the women that belong to us by their own vows (i say that "us" as this family of geeks that reside here).

 

i feel deep concern for the young women growing up in this culture. there will be none for our boys that are unaffected by sexual abuse, divorce, and abandonment. our sons have little hope of finding a woman of virtue or character. the feelings and selfishness of parents needing their own needs met leave our children in their wakes. our sons have little hope of finding a girl that saw a strong father stand in the fire and perform, and a helpful, faithful mother stand in the fire alongside him.

sounds a lot like religious bullshitt to me.

[Mile High Drunk 13]

as the fathers of sons, it is clear, even from this very thread, that men feel the need to gain manly validation from the conquest of the woman, or a lot of them. you can also see how years are spent building families and dreams and assets only to see them split up and other men becoming the head of households over our sons and the women that belong to us by their own vows (i say that "us" as this family of geeks that reside here).

 

i feel deep concern for the young women growing up in this culture. there will be none for our boys that are unaffected by sexual abuse, divorce, and abandonment. our sons have little hope of finding a woman of virtue or character. the feelings and selfishness of parents needing their own needs met leave our children in their wakes. our sons have little hope of finding a girl that saw a strong father stand in the fire and perform, and a helpful, faithful mother stand in the fire alongside him.

Women have always been an object to conquer.

[jerryskids 7,090]

as the fathers of sons, it is clear, even from this very thread, that men feel the need to gain manly validation from the conquest of the woman, or a lot of them. you can also see how years are spent building families and dreams and assets only to see them split up and other men becoming the head of households over our sons and the women that belong to us by their own vows (i say that "us" as this family of geeks that reside here).

 

i feel deep concern for the young women growing up in this culture. there will be none for our boys that are unaffected by sexual abuse, divorce, and abandonment. our sons have little hope of finding a woman of virtue or character. the feelings and selfishness of parents needing their own needs met leave our children in their wakes. our sons have little hope of finding a girl that saw a strong father stand in the fire and perform, and a helpful, faithful mother stand in the fire alongside him.

I hear you, and as I said earlier I rarely advocate divorce, but in his case it is the best solution. You'd have to know all of the history, and I won't repeat it.

 

Also they don't have kids.

[GobbleDog 1,010]

Also they don't have kids.

 

Divorce without kids is just a typical break up.... with some legal documents to file.

 

The rest of your life is a long damn time (hopefully) to spend with someone. I thought about that after I got married.... I felt like I could have easily gotten divorced at any time until the kid was born. After that, divorce was off the table. Now it would be way too complicated. So I'm stuck, but happily stuck.

[Voltaire 5,491]

sounds a lot like religious bullshitt to me.

Not necessarily. I like to think I'm bringing up kids with character and virtue. I try to set the example of right and wrong yet religion is nowhere to be found in our house. You don't need the invisible man in the sky threatening you with hellfire and d@mnation to do so.

[BudBro 183]

sounds a lot like religious bullshitt to me.

 

scary words, eh? head of household....virtue....character....vows. it ain't easy being a man, nor raising a son to be one.

[kilroy69 1,268]

Its very easy being a man. If its not you are doing it wrong. Its also easy raising a boy to be a man. Far easier than raising a girl to be a woman.

[naomi 360]

Women are focking weird. Even my wife, who is awesome, says three or four ball busting comments a day. I usually just ignore them, but why don't they know the best way for your man to love you is leave him the fock alone.

 

Best of luck dude

 

Can you give an example of a ball busting comment?

 

Titans, had she given up on the marriage herself...neither of you had just done anything about it yet?

 

I also got the impression you haven't taken it lightly at all, even though I don't know any real back story

[Mungwater 601]

 

Can you give an example of a ball busting comment?

 

Titans, had she given up on the marriage herself...neither of you had just done anything about it yet?

 

I also got the impression you haven't taken it lightly at all, even though I don't know any real back story

Ball busting is a bit of an overstatement on second thought.

 

It's more of a "did you call the landscaper?" "Can you take care of this and that?" Just honey do that gets annoying. She can easily handle that stuff herself.

 

In the eight years we've been together, I've never given her a task. Gets old quick

[NorthernVike 2,096]

my brother was 55 and sounds like him and his ###### of a wife were largely in the same boat as you

 

 

 

he was pretty sad about it for a while but now he's got a new job a new state a new wife and two little kids and he's loving life

Sounds like you should divorce your mom and move.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

Ball busting is a bit of an overstatement on second thought.

 

It's more of a "did you call the landscaper?" "Can you take care of this and that?" Just honey do ###### that gets annoying. She can easily handle that stuff herself.

 

In the eight years we've been together, I've never given her a task. Gets old quick

My wife does this too. It's like anytime I have a spare moment she has to think of something for me to do. Drives me nuts.

[shotsup 835]

I'm a jealous.

[naomi 360]

Ball busting is a bit of an overstatement on second thought.

 

It's more of a "did you call the landscaper?" "Can you take care of this and that?" Just honey do ###### that gets annoying. She can easily handle that stuff herself.

 

In the eight years we've been together, I've never given her a task. Gets old quick

 

Ah, ok. When you said "focking weird" I was imagining her saying these isolated statements that make you go

 

Nagging though

[wiffleball 4,797]

My wife does this too. It's like anytime I have a spare moment she has to think of something for me to do. Drives me nuts.

bear in mind she did grow up in a pretty fortunate circumstance.

[jerryskids 7,090]

bear in mind she did grow up in a pretty fortunate circumstance.

She hadn't met Worms yet?

[IGotWorms 4,063]

She hadn't met Worms yet?

Hey!

 

 

 

....that's what I was gonna say!

[gocolts 300]

I hear you, and as I said earlier I rarely advocate divorce, but in his case it is the best solution. You'd have to know all of the history, and I won't repeat it.

 

Also they don't have kids.

[DankNuggs 305]

My wife does this too. It's like anytime I have a spare moment she has to think of something for me to do. Drives me nuts.

+1... Its not like i am solely responsible for our fiscal stability and future, handle all the house grooming tasks and required fixes, and shoulder as much of the baby load as i can before and after work... Can't a man sit down in front of redzone for a couple hours with a beer and zone out...

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

+1... Its not like i am solely responsible for our fiscal stability and future, handle all the house grooming tasks and required fixes, and shoulder as much of the baby load as i can before and after work... Can't a man sit down in front of redzone for a couple hours with a beer and zone out...

No joke. Mine acts like everything is my responsibility, any contribution she makes is optional.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

Congrats Titans. She was a twat anyway.

 

What I don't understand is how a guy in his lower 30's is fine with celibacy. You might want to get your testosterone levels checked.

 

For the bible thumpers, divorce is not the problem that is tearing up the family unit. There have been plenty of married fathers who were never around or had checked out of the marriage who set a far worse example than many divorced fathers.

[GobbleDog 1,010]

For the bible thumpers, divorce is not the problem that is tearing up the family unit.

 

Americans are very religious, except when it interferes with their lives.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

Americans are very religious, except when it interferes with their lives.

It could also be that many of the religions are BS and the associated religious zealots are hypocritical a$$holes.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,605]

Ball busting is a bit of an overstatement on second thought.

 

It's more of a "did you call the landscaper?" "Can you take care of this and that?" Just honey do ###### that gets annoying. She can easily handle that stuff herself.

 

In the eight years we've been together, I've never given her a task. Gets old quick

 

 

I'm guessing she still sucks your d!ck. I imagine that that's a task.

[BudBro 183]

For the bible thumpers, divorce is not the problem that is tearing up the family unit.

i tend to agree with this. it's people having no conscience to keep the promises they made. it's called lying. it's "my selfish desires are more important than standing in though good and bad, better or worse, richer or poorer, until death". it's society giving a pass on divorce, the families of the people involved giving a pass on divorce, and the church no longer having a position of moral authority by giving a pass on divorce that is tearing up families. divorce used to have a stigma attached to it, and people used to know what the word covenant meant. now that we're dumbed down and now that women's lib has become the religion of choice, it's not a big deal any longer in society. nobody said divorce isn't biblical, btw. it is. god divorced israel because she whored herself to baal during the betrothal period. he sent messiah as a marriage proposal and she will eventually accept. god is a one-woman man and still considers her to be his, though she is in rebellion. it's when you get remarried or have sex with someone that isn't the person you married, if they are still living, is where the trouble begins. celibacy or reconciliation are the 2 biblical choices after a divorce, fwiw.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

i tend to agree with this. it's people having no conscience to keep the promises they made. it's called lying. it's "my selfish desires are more important than standing in though good and bad, better or worse, richer or poorer, until death". it's society giving a pass on divorce, the families of the people involved giving a pass on divorce, and the church no longer having a position of moral authority by giving a pass on divorce that is tearing up families. divorce used to have a stigma attached to it, and people used to know what the word covenant meant. now that we're dumbed down and now that women's lib has become the religion of choice, it's not a big deal any longer in society. nobody said divorce isn't biblical, btw. it is. god divorced israel because she whored herself to baal during the betrothal period. he sent messiah as a marriage proposal and she will eventually accept. god is a one-woman man and still considers her to be his, though she is in rebellion. it's when you get remarried or have sex with someone that isn't the person you married, if they are still living, is where the trouble begins. celibacy or reconciliation are the 2 biblical choices after a divorce, fwiw.

Interesting. Now what do the Brothers Grimm have to say on the matter?

[TimmySmith 2,783]

It takes 2 people working hard to make a marriage. Not for everyone. Most people choose their mates very poorly.

[GobbleDog 1,010]

Divorce without kids is a simple breakup. Leave the supernatural out of it.

 

And the best way to get over a breakup is to start dating other chicks.

[tanatastic 2,062]

Interesting. Now what do the Brothers Grimm have to say on the matter?

I prefer to take my advice from the easter bunny and santa clause. Or scientologys evil galactic space lord Xenu (they really believe in him, look it up!).

[BudBro 183]

Interesting. Now what do the Brothers Grimm have to say on the matter?

it's not interesting. it's heart-breaking. for you, for lots of others. all the effort and work and love and try isn't easy to walk away from, nor to turn your back on. all of the replies in this thread have your best interests in mind. it's like a brotherhood that wants what is best for you. clearly, you've stood in the midst of trouble and been a man of conviction to the things you said you would do. i admire you and all those here who are your "friends" that are defending your right to do what you want. when people make it out that this is going to be easy to overcome, they're wrong. try taking a piece of plywood and separating its layers perfectly. that's what is happening. it's not possible. the problem is this for you....you love her like god loves....if you want to call that a problem.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

i tend to agree with this. it's people having no conscience to keep the promises they made. it's called lying. it's "my selfish desires are more important than standing in though good and bad, better or worse, richer or poorer, until death". it's society giving a pass on divorce, the families of the people involved giving a pass on divorce, and the church no longer having a position of moral authority by giving a pass on divorce that is tearing up families. divorce used to have a stigma attached to it, and people used to know what the word covenant meant. now that we're dumbed down and now that women's lib has become the religion of choice, it's not a big deal any longer in society. nobody said divorce isn't biblical, btw. it is. god divorced israel because she whored herself to baal during the betrothal period. he sent messiah as a marriage proposal and she will eventually accept. god is a one-woman man and still considers her to be his, though she is in rebellion. it's when you get remarried or have sex with someone that isn't the person you married, if they are still living, is where the trouble begins. celibacy or reconciliation are the 2 biblical choices after a divorce, fwiw.

Fock off, seriously

[kilroy69 1,268]

i tend to agree with this. it's people having no conscience to keep the promises they made. it's called lying. it's "my selfish desires are more important than standing in though good and bad, better or worse, richer or poorer, until death". it's society giving a pass on divorce, the families of the people involved giving a pass on divorce, and the church no longer having a position of moral authority by giving a pass on divorce that is tearing up families. divorce used to have a stigma attached to it, and people used to know what the word covenant meant. now that we're dumbed down and now that women's lib has become the religion of choice, it's not a big deal any longer in society. nobody said divorce isn't biblical, btw. it is. god divorced israel because she whored herself to baal during the betrothal period. he sent messiah as a marriage proposal and she will eventually accept. god is a one-woman man and still considers her to be his, though she is in rebellion. it's when you get remarried or have sex with someone that isn't the person you married, if they are still living, is where the trouble begins. celibacy or reconciliation are the 2 biblical choices after a divorce, fwiw.

The bible and for that matter religion has no place in todays world. If you believe in an omnipresent man in the sky who judges what you do I consider you simple minded.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

The bible and for that matter religion has no place in todays world. If you believe in an omnipresent man in the sky who judges what you do I consider you simple minded.

He can believe what he wants, but ought to drop the incredibly sanctimonious act.

[kilroy69 1,268]

He can believe what he wants, but ought to drop the incredibly sanctimonious act.

you are right he can believe what he wants but I will look at him the same way we now look at indians who believed in rain gods or greeks who believed in thunder gods. Simple minded fools who needed religion as a crutch to explain what was going on in the world around them.

[Mungwater 601]

 

 

I'm guessing she still sucks your d!ck. I imagine that that's a task.

Taking a thirteen incher must be tough

[MDC 7,893]

One thing I've learned about marriage is that unlike dating, you're not going to have a bad day. You will at some point have bad weeks or months, maybe even a bad year. Your willingness to weather those bad times is going to depend on your love for your spouse - if you can't weather the rough patches you prolly shouldn't have been married in the first place.

 

From what I read of TBBOM, he's weathered years of bad times and invested a ton of effort into improving his marriage with very little effort in return from his spouse. I don't think he reneged on his vows, his wife did. At this point Jen you've done everything you can and your spouse is still unwilling to meet you halfway, the choice is staying miserable in a sham marriage or getting out. I'd do what TBBOM is doing in his shoes.

 

Also, women's lib is one reason for more divorce today but only because women have the financial autonomy to leave crumby marriages just like men always have forever.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

i tend to agree with this. it's people having no conscience to keep the promises they made. it's called lying. it's "my selfish desires are more important than standing in though good and bad, better or worse, richer or poorer, until death". it's society giving a pass on divorce, the families of the people involved giving a pass on divorce, and the church no longer having a position of moral authority by giving a pass on divorce that is tearing up families. divorce used to have a stigma attached to it, and people used to know what the word covenant meant. now that we're dumbed down and now that women's lib has become the religion of choice, it's not a big deal any longer in society. nobody said divorce isn't biblical, btw. it is. god divorced israel because she whored herself to baal during the betrothal period. he sent messiah as a marriage proposal and she will eventually accept. god is a one-woman man and still considers her to be his, though she is in rebellion. it's when you get remarried or have sex with someone that isn't the person you married, if they are still living, is where the trouble begins. celibacy or reconciliation are the 2 biblical choices after a divorce, fwiw.

So you agreed, but cut out the important part of my quote. You can still be married and be sh!tty at the relationship. There plenty of people who stay married on paper, but you live separate in one home. Worked well for my in-laws who were "married" for 50 years. They spent one entire year not even speaking to each other. I am not sure what "god" you believe in, but the one that I believe in doesn't think that people should live a miserable life that is a sham.

[TimmySmith 2,783]

I blame religion because it's way more convenient than blaming a million years of biology.