SUXBNME 1,596 Posted July 17, 2015 This. Pretty sure they didn't have these assault rifles in mind when they wrote the second amendment. I just wish that everyone who was killed by these things were pro-gun yahoos If you don't know anything about guns, you should prolly avoid talking about them here. hth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted July 17, 2015 You can have destructive religious-like fervor for ideologies without an appeal to a divine being in the mix (although even when they're non-theist it seems like there's often some creepy spiritual, mystical sense of specialness and destiny with the leaders). Whether you need the God factor to really effectively have masses corralled under the umbrella of a cause is a good question. I don't think you do because history has seen masses unified without that. But why is the God narrative so effective...is it because a divine being resonates with us, and we're not yet evolved beyond that? It's not far fetched to me to see how the idea of institutionally marginalizing or even eradicating religious believers can truly be seen as good, especially in light of a more connected than ever, relatively civilized globe dealing with a brutal, warring, domination seeking group tied together with religious beliefs, while you also have the steady annoyance of progressive obstructionists with their outdated moors in the first world. The way Nazi thinking forwarded that Jews have innate character deficiency can be applied to people who just don't get enlightened out of their superstition. If you're the material that is the conduit for evil, you're a dreg of society. I think a lot of it has to do with the belief of an afterlife, devaluing life itself. And to be clear, I agree with KSB. If it's not religion it will be something else. Humans (especially men) are aggressive by nature. Aggression manifests differently in everybody. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted July 17, 2015 If you don't know anything about guns, you should prolly avoid talking about them here. hth gfy I know plenty. And I know that these assault weapons weren't invented yet in 1791. There's absolutely zero need for them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted July 17, 2015 I am standing in a gun store with my crazy gun nut brother. .50 cal rifles, assault rifles, Uzi looking things. This sh!t is focking insane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted July 17, 2015 I think a lot of it has to do with the belief of an afterlife, devaluing life itself. And to be clear, I agree with KSB. If it's not religion it will be something else. Humans (especially men) are aggressive by nature. Aggression manifests differently in everybody. I agree, we will do whatever it takes to justify killing eachother. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,596 Posted July 17, 2015 gfy I know plenty. And I know that these assault weapons weren't invented yet in 1791. There's absolutely zero need for them. Assault weapon is a term used in the United States to define some types of firearms. The definition varies among regulating jurisdictions, but usually includes semi-automatic firearms with a detachable magazine and a pistol grip, and sometimes other features such as a flash suppressor or barrel shroud. What some people call "assault weapons" function like every other normal firearm—they fire only one bullet each time the trigger is pressed. Unlike automatics (machine guns), they do not fire continuously as long as the trigger is held. ... Today in America, most handguns are semi-automatics, as are many long guns, including the best-selling rifle today, the AR-15, the model used in the Newtown shooting. Some of these guns look like machine guns, but they do not function like machine guns. The truth about assault weapons is that there is no such thing. So-called assault weapons are semi-automatic firearms—the guns most commonly used by millions of law-abiding Americans. Educate yourself before speaking, dipshit. http://www.assaultweapon.info/ According to a 1988 report by the Violence Policy Center, an anti-gun lobby: [H]andgun restriction is simply not viewed as a priority. Assault weapons ... are a new topic. The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted July 17, 2015 That's what bump stocks are for. Duh SUX. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted July 17, 2015 Nobody besides police and military needs to own a gun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted July 17, 2015 Nobody besides police and military needs to own a gun. What about hunters? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted July 17, 2015 What about hunters? With a hunting license (is that a thing?) ill let it slide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,596 Posted July 17, 2015 What about hunters? Assault crossbows Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted July 17, 2015 Assault crossbows Thats how a real man would hunt. Any poozy can shoot a gun pointing at a defenseless animal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artista 460 Posted July 18, 2015 One sailor who was in critical condition has died. 5 dead now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted July 18, 2015 Thats how a real man would hunt. Any poozy can shoot a gun pointing at a defenseless animal. Well hell go back to the original days of hunting with just a dam rock then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 192 Posted July 18, 2015 R.I.P. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,710 Posted July 18, 2015 Federal Installation Firearms are prohibited in this facility This is the sign on the front of the building with 23 bullet holes in the glass windows and doors. This is what happens when the good guys are disarmed! Why is the left pushing for a society where only the bad guys will be armed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 360 Posted July 18, 2015 I'm not normally one to criticize how the POTUS does or doesn't do public statements, but what he said about this so far just seems to pale in comparison to how other presidents have addressed tragedy befalling the men and women they command. I realize it's a weird spot for him but The NSA will definitely read this post too (track back), so hey https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/07/16/statement-president-shooting-chattanooga-tn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 360 Posted July 18, 2015 Mostly kidding but it is sad we officially strike a tone at such loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted July 18, 2015 Mostly kidding but it is sad we officially strike a tone at such loss. What would you want him to do? He's the president of the U.S., not a football coach at halftime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 360 Posted July 18, 2015 What would you want him to do? He's the president of the U.S., not a football coach at halftime He's their commander in chief and he sounds like a bureaucrat while addressing it. It was early on so it wouldn't surprise me if he talks publicly and sounds more personal about it at some point soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted July 18, 2015 . He's their commander in chief and he sounds like a bureaucrat while addressing it. You want your commander to be composed at all times and he is a bureaucrat. What did you expect? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 360 Posted July 18, 2015 You want your commander to be composed at all times and he is a bureaucrat. What did you expect? A more personal tenor doesn't mean less composure. A straight-up bureaucrat: an official in a government department, in particular one perceived as being concerned with procedural correctness at the expense of people's needs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted July 18, 2015 You want your commander to be composed at all times and he is a bureaucrat. What did you expect? I would expect him to at least have as much passion about it as he has over the recent shootings such as ferguson, Charleston, and Baltimore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,897 Posted July 18, 2015 If a silver lining to this horrible tragedy, it's that we can all bash liberals / Obummer for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,766 Posted July 18, 2015 R.I.P.I can't believe how hard it must be for the families of these victims to wrap their heads around the fact that their family members returned home from war safely only to be murdered on American soil by the very people they were fighting overseas. "Sad" is a drastic understatement. R.I.P. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artista 460 Posted July 19, 2015 I can't believe how hard it must be for the families of these victims to wrap their heads around the fact that their family members returned home from war safely only to be murdered on American soil by the very people they were fighting overseas. "Sad" is a drastic understatement. R.I.P. Yep, I think it would be harder to take than had they been killed overseas because you made it back to supposed safety at home. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted July 19, 2015 Sad thing is when a cop kills someone (a criminal) people riot. Yet when a terrorist kills 4 marines noone bats an eye. Such a sad country we live in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,766 Posted July 19, 2015 Sad thing is when a cop kills someone (a criminal) people riot. Yet when a terrorist kills 4 marines noone bats an eye. Such a sad country we live inTo be fair, if these cowards rode around with an "Allah's Ass-Holes" top rocker, our native MC'S would end them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted July 19, 2015 Sad thing is when a cop kills someone (a criminal) people riot. Yet when a terrorist kills 4 marines noone bats an eye. Such a sad country we live in It is sad, but to be fair there are only riots from black people and it's only when black people get killed or hurt (Rodney king). Every other race seems to act in a civilized manner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted July 19, 2015 Sad thing is when a cop kills someone (a criminal) people riot. Yet when a terrorist kills 4 marines noone bats an eye. Such a sad country we live in No one bats an eye? Really? Tell me, what would you have people do? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted July 19, 2015 Federal Installation Firearms are prohibited in this facility This is the sign on the front of the building with 23 bullet holes in the glass windows and doors. This is what happens when the good guys are disarmed! Why is the left pushing for a society where only the bad guys will be armed? He fired from outside in quick succession... Then left. Them having gins inside probably does little to change what happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted July 19, 2015 Sad thing is when a cop kills someone (a criminal) people riot. Yet when a terrorist kills 4 marines noone bats an eye. Such a sad country we live in Where did no one bat an eye? You expect people to riot? Don't compare cases of an authority figure killing an unarmed man (justified or not) with an act of terrorism ...makes you look foolish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tubby_mcgee 701 Posted July 19, 2015 gfy I know plenty. And I know that these assault weapons weren't invented yet in 1791. There's absolutely zero need for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tubby_mcgee 701 Posted July 19, 2015 Is this what the liberals have engrained in your head and other sheep's heads? Why did you call it an "assault rifle"? Oh...that's what the flock has been taught. Lol. Any rifle...or gun...or knife...or brick...could be used to assault.... Thus making them " assault knives" etc. But the d1ck in their mouth libs don't call em that. I have 7 automatic "evil" weapons. Scary ones. Not one has caused a problem. Hmm. Mine must be defective. Let's keep up the liberal way of inviting these towel head Muslims in...and teaching kids everything in life is fair...and gays, trannies, pedo's, those that don't work, are equal. A group hug will fix anything. Lol. Lots of things aren't "needed". Soccer balls, lipstick and anal lube aren't " needed", but I can guarantee you've got a solid supply on hand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted July 19, 2015 Yah guys. Let's just keep everything the same, always. Progress is for pizzy liberals. Our forefathers would be ashamed. Now please excuse me, while I go take a crap outside, and then ride my horse down to Olsen Mercantile, to buy some more kerosine for my iPhone. Anybody need a dozen eggs or some powder for their man wig while I'm out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted July 19, 2015 Is this what the liberals have engrained in your head and other sheep's heads? Why did you call it an "assault rifle"? Oh...that's what the flock has been taught. Lol. Any rifle...or gun...or knife...or brick...could be used to assault.... Thus making them " assault knives" etc. But the d1ck in their mouth libs don't call em that. I have 7 automatic "evil" weapons. Scary ones. Not one has caused a problem. Hmm. Mine must be defective. Let's keep up the liberal way of inviting these towel head Muslims in...and teaching kids everything in life is fair...and gays, trannies, pedo's, those that don't work, are equal. A group hug will fix anything. Lol. Lots of things aren't "needed". Soccer balls, lipstick and anal lube aren't " needed", but I can guarantee you've got a solid supply on hand. I also think bazookas and flames throwers should be outlawed. I hope I don't snap one day and go on a killing spree with soccer balls. :cuckoo: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted July 19, 2015 I also think bazookas and flames throwers should be outlawed. I hope I don't snap one day and go on a killing spree with soccer balls. :cuckoo: Bazookas and flame throwers are outlawed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted July 19, 2015 Bazookas and flame throwers are outlawed. Well, that blows. How can I create a well regulated militia without a bazooka or two? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites