Matt Mueller Posted July 18, 2015 Posted July 18, 2015 Happy to land both those guys here. Witten-Gates at TE should suffice well enough. TWill as a WR 6 and another share of the Cowboys passing O. Considering I've got Bell and Gates maybe my team name is The Suspendables. Quote
robb Posted July 19, 2015 Posted July 19, 2015 Matt: Nice pick with Williams. He is one I was considering this round since I almost took him last round (Cruz instead). I strongly believe he will be the #2 WR in Dallas this year. Great value for you here! Quote
robb Posted July 19, 2015 Posted July 19, 2015 I'm drinking some Steamboat Shandy by Potosi Brewing. Love it. I drank Potosi beer in college, in the mid-seventies. I remember it being made with "potatoes", henceforth the Potosi name. Am I wrong on this? Quote
The Football Guru Posted July 19, 2015 Posted July 19, 2015 Matt: Nice pick with Williams. He is one I was considering this round since I almost took him last round (Cruz instead). I strongly believe he will be the #2 WR in Dallas this year. Great value for you here! Agreed. Williams was my next pick as well and the other player I considered along with Parker before taking Sankey last round. Quote
Frozenbeernuts Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Go Ladarius or go home is what i always say. Well at least after a few grapefruit IPAs. Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 It's late but wanted to make a pick. Thought I'd be the first to take a D. Not real thrilled with the other options available. Quote
JScott Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Here guys, just need to get caught up. Will pick shortly. Quote
Frozenbeernuts Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I have Gurus pick once you make your selection Jscott Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 ICEMAN, I picked Dwayne Allen in the 10th already. Quote
Frozenbeernuts Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Ruh oh. Iceman did it again. Now im going to have to pick someone already on a team just to tie him. Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Am I really picking guys that much earlier than where the rest of you have them ranked? Quote
Frozenbeernuts Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Am I really picking guys that much earlier than where the rest of you have them ranked? Nah. Allen is ranked around where you got him. Quote
RLLD Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Am I really picking guys that much earlier than where the rest of you have them ranked? Yes. But that is not uncommon, esp in lower rounds where value becomes increasingly subjective, I would not read into it very much Quote
Frozenbeernuts Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Yes. But that is not uncommon, esp in lower rounds where value becomes increasingly subjective, I would not read into it very much Well said cowboy Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Nah. Allen is ranked around where you got him. That's what I thought. I keep seeing him right around a TE12. I'm curious what everyone else is using for their player rankings. Are you using a list from another site or do you have your own made? I'm also curious if your rankings are based on this mock's scoring system. Quote
robb Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Yes. But that is not uncommon, esp in lower rounds where value becomes increasingly subjective, I would not read into it very much Agreed. But, in this format, defenses this early is up for debate and questions, maybe?? Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Agreed. But, in this format, defenses this early is up for debate and questions, maybe?? I generally never take a defense until the last two rounds but that's in a normal league where I can stream my defense. This is not the same and do not have the ability to stream at all so I figured I'd hop on a defense that has a better chance to score well all season. Quote
robb Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 That's what I thought. I keep seeing him right around a TE12. I'm curious what everyone else is using for their player rankings. Are you using a list from another site or do you have your own made? I'm also curious if your rankings are based on this mock's scoring system. As for Allen and his rankings...... I simply do not want a part of a TE by Committee possible approach in Indy. While I believe Allen has top 10 potential, at this point I just don't know how much he will be cannibalized by ______. I would guess by Sept 1st we may have a more clear picture. Just my 2 cents. Quote
robb Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I generally never take a defense until the last two rounds but that's in a normal league where I can stream my defense. This is not the same and do not have the ability to stream at all so I figured I'd hop on a defense that has a better chance to score well all season. I don't disagree with your logic Iowa Man, but with the scoring for defenses in this draft as it is, I simply feel they can wait. I love Buffalo's chances in other formats and Leagues, just trying to apply the scoring here to the picks. Quote
RLLD Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Agreed. But, in this format, defenses this early is up for debate and questions, maybe?? As a rule yes, unless you think you know of a team that has scoring potential. I still get grief from picking the Ravens Def a few years back in round 9, but they scored above that round during the season and I won the June Mock season challenge. Right now I do not see a scoring defense worthy of a higher pick than round 14, but someone else may be dialed into something I am overlooking. Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I really considered waiting one more round but I didn't want a run on defenses to start before my next pick. I figured I'd follow the rule of starting a run on a position. I don't think I missed out on too much talent in that round anyway. Quote
Frozenbeernuts Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I really considered waiting one more round but I didn't want a run on defenses to start before my next pick. I figured I'd follow the rule of starting a run on a position. I don't think I missed out on too much talent in that round anyway. Pretty much everyone left is a crap shoot. Quote
RLLD Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Pretty much everyone left is a crap shoot. This. in the teen's rounds you are really rolling the dice while using your very best estimations and judgement, in many cases you are even looking past upside and trying to guess what starters are most likely to go down, giving your prospect touches.... Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I am in no way saying that my strategy is the best but it's just something I'm trying a little different. I'm interested to see how it will play out. The one thing I haven't done yet is to look at all of your teams so far. I don't even know how the rest of you have been drafting. Quote
Frozenbeernuts Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I am in no way saying that my strategy is the best but it's just something I'm trying a little different. I'm interested to see how it will play out. The one thing I haven't done yet is to look at all of your teams so far. I don't even know how the rest of you have been drafting. Im drafting like a champ fwiw. Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I feel stupid asking this question but I think it's important to know. If we are drafting based on this being treated as a best ball league like an MFL10, wouldn't it be smart to draft two defenses and two kickers? If you only have one of each then you're taking a 0 at those positions on their bye week. Quote
Frozenbeernuts Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I feel stupid asking this question but I think it's important to know. If we are drafting based on this being treated as a best ball league like an MFL10, wouldn't it be smart to draft two defenses and two kickers? If you only have one of each then you're taking a 0 at those positions on their bye week. Technically yes. Though there are only 16 rounds so its pretty difficult to draft a backup K and Def. 18 rounds would be perfect imo to get the backups. OR we removed the K position altogether since MFL10s no longer have kickers and we use what would have been our K pick for a backup Def. Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Technically yes. Though there are only 16 rounds so its pretty difficult to draft a backup K and Def. 18 rounds would be perfect imo to get the backups. OR we removed the K position altogether since MFL10s no longer have kickers and we use what would have been our K pick for a backup Def. Getting rid of the K position and leaving that spot open for a second D makes the most sense to me. Now I'm curious as to what would pay off more, having a backup K and D or having the extra RBs or WRs. There's no way of knowing if a late round RB or WR is ever going to put up usable points for your team or not. Quote
robb Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Getting rid of the K position and leaving that spot open for a second D makes the most sense to me. Now I'm curious as to what would pay off more, having a backup K and D or having the extra RBs or WRs. There's no way of knowing if a late round RB or WR is ever going to put up usable points for your team or not. This ...... times 100! Question: Are we letting someone do this July Mock in an MFL10 format OR will someone from the Board be doing a no-hassle format similar to the June Mock? Quote
JScott Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Guys, I'll be busy with work today. Won't be able to keep the draft lists up to date so hoping another mod has the time to jump in and do it. Quote
JScott Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Also, with the limited scoring DSTs get in this format, I'd much rather keep the PK and dump DST. Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Also, with the limited scoring DSTs get in this format, I'd much rather keep the PK and dump DST. Why not just drop both and have a total of 5 flex spots? Quote
Frozenbeernuts Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Since there has been a defense and a kicker already drafted, it makes the most sense to extend the draft 2 rounds so we can get backups. Or we leave it as is and i roll with a kicker and defense and no backups. I also like a team kicker better in this format if we have no backups. If your kicker goes down you are screwed. Quote
ralphster Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I know I've taken several players ahead of their ADPs but after about round 12 I don't really care about ADP and will jump a couple rounds just to get the guys I want. Quote
Matt Mueller Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I think 18 or 20 spots in theory make sense to account for another K-D but I don't think we should switch anything up at this point. While it probably won't impact things too much I was def drafting with the idea that most likely only 12 Ds would be in play. If 24 are in play there is almost more downside of getting 'stuck' with some lower options if that makes sense. I guess my point is any changes in draft should be minizmized. That said its the July Mock and whatever works best. Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Doesn't make much difference to me since it's a mock draft is July. It just popped in my head as I was trying to figure out my last couple picks and needed to make up my mind what is more important to pick up. Quote
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