penultimatestraw 473 Posted October 5, 2015 Was Worms drunk today... or something? Who the fock cites Blade Runner as the last truly influential film? Sweet Jesus, I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,783 Posted October 5, 2015 I took my son to see Blade Runner a month ago. I have seen it at the theater 4-5 times and I think each time was a different cut. It is influential from a genre standpoint and certain themes in it have been copied many times. "The Terminator" with some similar themes, is more influential IMO because Cameron created a world and technology that has almost become a standard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 5, 2015 I took my son to see Blade Runner a month ago. I have seen it at the theater 4-5 times and I think each time was a different cut. It is influential from a genre standpoint and certain themes in it have been copied many times. This guy gets it. And for anyone who has only seen the theatrical version, the dieector's cut (or final cut) is far, far better. "The Terminator" with some similar themes, is more influential IMO because Cameron created a world and technology that has almost become a standard.I thought about the Terminator but it borrows so heavily from Blade Runner. Considered Alien and Aliens as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 5, 2015 Maybe the better question is, who was the last truly influential film maker? Ridley Scott, James Cameron, Steven Spielberg (in their respect heydays)? After that maybe you make a case for Tarantino and that's about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 939 Posted October 5, 2015 Seven, First one that came to mind,others have tried to copy it but never come close.Seven is damn near perfect. I'd also add Requiem For A Dream Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 5, 2015 We're getting some votes for Fincher and Aronofsky. Good calls Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BiPolarBear 497 Posted October 5, 2015 Not a movie, but Roots had a big impact. A lot of people didn't swim because of Jaws. Girls were more cautious because of Looking for Mr Goodbar. Saturday Night Fever cemented disco as part of the American landscape of the 70's. American Graffiti started the whole retro scene, and also spawned two huge hit TV shows, Happy Days and Laverne & Shirley. Coming home brought attention to the plight of Vietnam Vets, and the Deer Hunter showed us how f-Ed up that war was. Good list. The S.C.U.B.A. diving industry suffered a 20% decline in sales due to Jaws. Last I heard, it never recovered. The other picks are solid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,783 Posted October 5, 2015 Maybe the better question is, who was the last truly influential film maker? Ridley Scott, James Cameron, Steven Spielberg (in their respect heydays)? After that maybe you make a case for Tarantino and that's about it. For Sci-fi, Ridley and Cameron have so cornered the market that any new sci-fi director must pay homage or fail. Spielberg's films are all about relationships, which he examines better than any other director (he credits his parents' divorce for this). Tarantino is about dialogue. Spike Lee certainly deserves a nod as a great storyteller, who's main device is conflict. Clint Eastwood deserves mention as he has been as prolific as any director in the last 10 years with consistent provocative themes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,518 Posted October 5, 2015 This guy gets it. And for anyone who has only seen the theatrical version, the dieector's cut (or final cut) is far, far better. I thought about the Terminator but it borrows so heavily from Blade Runner. Considered Alien and Aliens as well. Why would you consider Alien, if you think Blade Runner is the last influential film, why would you go to an earlier film---by the same director---who clearly draws upon it to create his new work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 5, 2015 Why would you consider Alien, if you think Blade Runner is the last influential film, why would you go to an earlier film---by the same director---who clearly draws upon it to create his new work. They are two very different films in my eyes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,518 Posted October 5, 2015 They are two very different films in my eyes I just meant that if you are saying has there been an influential film since Blade Runner, you wouldn't mention Alien, since it came out 5 years earlier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 5, 2015 I just meant that if you are saying has there been an influential film since Blade Runner, you wouldn't mention Alien, since it came out 5 years earlier. I mentioned it since I was mentioning Aliens. Mentioning only that film begs the question: what about Alien? Also, go fock yourself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,518 Posted October 5, 2015 I mentioned it since I was mentioning Aliens. Mentioning only that film begs the question: what about Alien? Also, go fock yourself So you make an illogical statement, and I should "go fock" myself. Piss off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chronic Husker 86 Posted October 5, 2015 Getting There: Sweet 16 and Licensed to Drive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 5, 2015 So you make an illogical statement, and I should "go fock" myself. Piss off It was a joke. Easy now big guy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted October 5, 2015 I guess I need to watch Blade runner again. I love sci fi, Scott and Ford but this movie was barely watchable. Nothing stood out or seemed memorable. Ill give it another go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,988 Posted October 5, 2015 never watched Blade Runner as a kid, or any other time. Tried watching it like a year ago and turned it off maybe 20 mins in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,518 Posted October 5, 2015 I guess I need to watch Blade runner again. I love sci fi, Scott and Ford but this movie was barely watchable. Nothing stood out or seemed memorable. Ill give it another go. My favorite movie, and probably one of the most important sci-fi films ever made. I disagree with worms that there haven't been other influential movies since, I listed just a few. Maybe because I saw it first, but I generally prefer the original theatrical version over the various directors cuts(I'm definitely in the minority on that one). If you are going the director cut route though, you need to watch the last one. The first one just removes the narration---without adjusting the timing of the cuts so the edit feels strange. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 5, 2015 I guess I need to watch Blade runner again. I love sci fi, Scott and Ford but this movie was barely watchable. Nothing stood out or seemed memorable. Ill give it another go. Watch the directors cut or the final cut. Almost an entirely different movie and much better. Usually directors cuts are gimmicky or stupid, but not here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,518 Posted October 5, 2015 Watch the directors cut or the final cut. Almost an entirely different movie and much better. Usually directors cuts are gimmicky or stupid, but not here Final, the "directors cut" really wasn't, it was a release 1992 release after people started re-evaluating the movie. Scott doesn't like that version at all, partially for the reason I gave above, the editing - VO Narration is terrible. They left the shots the length of Ford's original VO, terrible pacing. The final trim's those shots down some, feels much more natural. There are some other issues too. So either watch the '82 Theatrical or the 2007 Final, skip the '92 directors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted October 5, 2015 Blade Runner was, IMO, an influential movie. It set the tone/standard/style for the futuristic, sci-fi, cyborg worlds we have today. Movies don't have to be great or Academy worthy to be influential. 50 Shades is influential - it truly brought S&M to the mainstream, more "toys" than ever are sold today bc of it. Life of Pi is influential from a cinematic standpoint - Ang Lee created scenes that were beyond anything ever seen on-screen Batman Begins launched and entire genre of "serious", "realistic" "dark" Super Hero movies Slumdog Millionaire - legitimizes "Bollywood" to American movie goers Brokeback Mountain - opened the gay-floodgates for every show/movie out there. Once they put gay cowboys on-screen, they were kissing everywhere on TV. 12 Years a Slave - every now and then, it's OK for society to be reminded of just how bad slavery is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,988 Posted October 5, 2015 I'm still waiting for 12 years a douche. to be played by so many people in a co-staring role. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted October 5, 2015 American Sniper was brutally gripping and powerful to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 5, 2015 Final, the "directors cut" really wasn't, it was a release 1992 release after people started re-evaluating the movie. Scott doesn't like that version at all, partially for the reason I gave above, the editing - VO Narration is terrible. They left the shots the length of Ford's original VO, terrible pacing. The final trim's those shots down some, feels much more natural. There are some other issues too. So either watch the '82 Theatrical or the 2007 Final, skip the '92 directors. My understanding is that Scott didn't like the Workprint version, which preceded the director's cut and was done without his input. So the dieector's cut was his chance to do it right. But I honestly can't recall if I've seen the director's cut or the final cut or both. So maybe you're right and it's only the final cut that was best Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 827 Posted October 5, 2015 Yall's lists are dumb First Blood: It set off a 20 year run of badass action movies. Airplane: Comedy changed forever. Lethal Weapon: Boom, buddy cop films for 30 years. All better, cooler, and more influential than Lamerunner. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,518 Posted October 5, 2015 My understanding is that Scott didn't like the Workprint version, which preceded the director's cut and was done without his input. So the dieector's cut was his chance to do it right. But I honestly can't recall if I've seen the director's cut or the final cut or both. So maybe you're right and it's only the final cut that was best Directors was '92 and was done without his input, he was directing Thelma and Louise and the time. The Final Cut is the one that is his actual 'director's cut' and that was released in 2007. Besides being 4K remastered, it's edited to his specs, they reshot scenes with Harrison's Ford's son to sync the audio in the fish market scene, and Joanna Cassidy crashing through the glass(stunt double looked so bad in the original)---restored music, 92 version has wrong music at the end.... and a some other stuff that I can't remember off the top of my head. I know how confusing this gets being that there are 7 different releases of this film floating around. I've been a fan ever since I saw the original---probably watch it at least once a year. Truly a masterpiece. Like I said I actually prefer the VO version---Despite the fact visually the newest release looks so much better, I feel like there is more ambiguity about Deckard in the '82 version. The Director/Final cut take away that away completely, I prefer not ever being sure one way or the other about the truth of Deckard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 192 Posted October 5, 2015 This was a pretty good topic until the nerd who started it chimed in with some stupid sci fi movie. What did it influence, other movies? Big deal. No affect on the culture or behavior. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 444 Posted October 5, 2015 Oliver Stone deserves a nod in this thread. JFK spawned a slew of documentaries and most of what people know (or think they know) about JFK's assassination came from that movie. I'm one of the few who believe that Oswald acted alone. Platoon was great too. He's got a movie coming out called Snowden which has a chance to be talked about for years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,011 Posted October 5, 2015 Yall's lists are dumb First Blood: It set off a 20 year run of badass action movies. Airplane: Comedy changed forever. Lethal Weapon: Boom, buddy cop films for 30 years. All better, cooler, and more influential than Lamerunner. You forgot Bloodsport Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,626 Posted October 5, 2015 X-men: Was the first of the 15-20 year franchises. Airplane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted October 5, 2015 This was a pretty good topic until the nerd who started it chimed in with some stupid sci fi movie. What did it influence, other movies? Big deal. No affect on the culture or behavior. I forgot to add: Liar, Liar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 192 Posted October 6, 2015 I forgot to add: Liar, Liar And My Cousin Vinny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 827 Posted October 6, 2015 Pretty Woman probably goes to the top of the list if we are talking about true real world influence. Because of it, even horse faced sluts think even they deserve rich good looking dudes that will wine and dine them. And we are all paying the price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,011 Posted October 6, 2015 And My Cousin Vinny. Let's Be Cops? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 192 Posted October 6, 2015 Let's Be Cops? Don't Be Afraid of the Dark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,011 Posted October 6, 2015 Don't Be Afraid of the Dark Harlem hasn't been "dark" in many years which you would know if you were actually NYPD. Owned again and again, Paul Blart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 192 Posted October 6, 2015 Harlem hasn't been "dark" in many years which you would know if you were actually NYPD. Owned again and again, Paul Blart. Wow. You think a few urban pioneers on the outskirts of Harlem changed the demographics in a few years? You over stepped moron. Go look it up and post your findings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,011 Posted October 6, 2015 Wow. You think a few urban pioneers on the outskirts of Harlem changed the demographics in a few years? You over stepped moron. Go look it up and post your findings. Harlem hasn't been majority black for years: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2010/01/06/nyregion/06harlem.html?referer=&_r=0 If you're going to impersonate a cop you should do a little basic research about the city you lie about policing, you focking tool. Owned again and again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 192 Posted October 6, 2015 Harlem hasn't been majority black for years: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2010/01/06/nyregion/06harlem.html?referer=&_r=0 If you're going to impersonate a cop you should do a little basic research about the city you lie about policing, you focking tool. Owned again and again. Please. You're as a scared of Spanish as you are of blacks. You would still shite yourself walking down the street in the majority of Harlem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
