KSB2424 3,174 Posted November 7, 2015 Doesn't seem anyone caught her. Lying to congress is a federal crime. When does she get charged? I guess the same time Ole Georgie does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 192 Posted November 7, 2015 I guess the same time Ole Georgie does. I don't remember his testimony on CNN. And seeing there has been more time Spent on benghazinthan the Iraq war, I guess he's safe. Your side are true Patriots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,174 Posted November 7, 2015 I don't remember his testimony on CNN. And seeing there has been more time Spent on benghazinthan the Iraq war, I guess he's safe. Your side are true Patriots. Yup no time spent on Iraq and WMDs. No inquisitions, no investigations, no media coverage, nobody talked about. Got it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 192 Posted November 7, 2015 Yup no time spent on Iraq and WMDs. No inquisitions, no investigations, no media coverage, nobody talked about. Got it. Never said that. Stop making stuff up. More time has been spent on Benghazi. Can you find me video of Bush testifying? Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,427 Posted November 7, 2015 Not a Ben Carson fan/voter. But I don't get why a person's religious beliefs or thoughts on evolution have much of anything to do with leading a country and its people. Unless of course you're a mooslim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,174 Posted November 7, 2015 Never said that. Stop making stuff up. More time has been spent on Benghazi. Can you find me video of Bush testifying? Thanks. Was Bush holding office when that official investigation came out? No, because it was after he was out of office. You got what you wanted. Your "What about Bush!" deflection derailed the thread. Congrats. I guess. Can we get back to Ben Carson and how him exaggerating a bit about his youth auto disqualifies him as a viable candidate. We can't be havin dat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted November 7, 2015 Was Bush holding office when that official investigation came out? No, because it was after he was out of office. You got what you wanted. Your "What about Bush!" deflection derailed the thread. Congrats. I guess. Can we get back to Ben Carson and how him exaggerating a bit about his youth auto disqualifies him as a viable candidate. We can't be havin dat. You should see his press conference about this that just happened. Dude is showing some passion now. In fact, I think the dude is a little pissed off. Also, I do not want this guy to win, not by a long shot. Cruz is my guy. Just thought this press conference was worth the watch. Make sure you watch at least the 1st two videos. http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/06/politics/ben-carson-responds-violent-past-new-day/index.html?sr=fbCNN110615ben-carson-responds-violent-past-new-day0727PMVODtop 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,174 Posted November 7, 2015 You should see his press conference about this that just happened. Dude is showing some passion now. In fact, I think the dude is a little pissed off. Also, I do not want this guy to win, not by a long shot. Cruz is my guy. Just thought this press conference was worth the watch. Make sure you watch at least the 1st two videos. http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/06/politics/ben-carson-responds-violent-past-new-day/index.html?sr=fbCNN110615ben-carson-responds-violent-past-new-day0727PMVODtop Fantastic video. Totally owned those reporters. I may like this Carson dude after all. Stone cold called them out and all you heard was :crickets: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 192 Posted November 7, 2015 Now that Carson is over, im thinking a lot of money flows towards Rubio. He's a lightweight, so it shouldn't be too hard to get him off his game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted November 7, 2015 Fantastic video. Totally owned those reporters. I may like this Carson dude after all. Stone cold called them out and all you heard was :crickets: No need to pretend, you will end up liking and defending anyone the right puts forth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,174 Posted November 7, 2015 No need to pretend, you will end up liking and defending anyone the right puts forth. Any opinion on the actual topic? Or are we deflecting again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted November 7, 2015 Any opinion on the actual topic? Or are we deflecting again? Ben Carson is not even remotely qualified to be President. Yet,if he is the nominee...you know you will support him and defend him. My post was in the topic of Carson. Its not my fault, or anyone else's fault that you pretend to be some independent free thinker...yet always fall for every slanted crap that supports the right. How's that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,427 Posted November 7, 2015 Ben Carson is not even remotely qualified to be President. and you probably think Obama was? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,506 Posted November 7, 2015 It's too bad because the guy already has the most compelling life story as is with no need to embellish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted November 7, 2015 and you probably think Obama was? Didn't once vote for him.though he did have a better grasp of issues than Carson does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,162 Posted November 7, 2015 Now that Carson is over, im thinking a lot of money flows towards Rubio. He's a lightweight, so it shouldn't be too hard to get him off his game. But but... Carson isn't over, Worms said so! He's just having a bad day like Hillary did a few times; he'll weather the storm and come out as popular as ever! I understand your side's point though. It is one thing to conspire to create a separate email server to hide your activities from the American people, but to embellish your violence level from 40 years ago... unforgiveable. Also for the record I don't like Carson as a candidate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted November 7, 2015 and you probably think Obama was? Editor in Chief of Harvard Law Review Constitutional Law Professor State Senator US Senator Yeah, pretty much the same as a guy that's never been anything but a doctor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted November 7, 2015 But but... Carson isn't over, Worms said so! He's just having a bad day like Hillary did a few times; he'll weather the storm and come out as popular as ever! I understand your side's point though. It is one thing to conspire to create a separate email server to hide your activities from the American people, but to embellish your violence level from 40 years ago... unforgiveable. Also for the record I don't like Carson as a candidate. You're not this stupid jerry. Actually I keep saying this to you and KSB, and maybe I'm wrong and you both actually are this stupid. That's the most likely scenario at this point Anyway, Hillary's email server was a real issue and she got absolutely hammered for it all summer. Yet it seems like she has survived it. Sorry you are mad that she did. Personally I was hoping it would bring her down enough that Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden could step in and claim the mantle. Didn't happen. Ben Carson can survive this scandal too if he is strong enough. If he isn't, well then something was probably going to bring him down eventually, wouldn't you agree? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,518 Posted November 7, 2015 I really don't like trying to compare them as equals. Lying about people dying (Bengazi) and also possessing an unsecure email with classified government documents sort of pales in comparison to exaggerating about your childhood in your autobiography. Don't ya think? Not really in the same universe of importance. I wish I could be more like you, able to look at all the facts and then come to an objective and unbiased 100% accuarate conlusion. In no way whaat-so-ever do you come off as a mindless GOP stooge who buys all their right wing distraction conspiracy theories while defending every bs thiing that the party engages in. Good for you, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,162 Posted November 7, 2015 You're not this stupid jerry. Actually I keep saying this to you and KSB, and maybe I'm wrong and you both actually are this stupid. That's the most likely scenario at this point Anyway, Hillary's email server was a real issue and she got absolutely hammered for it all summer. Yet it seems like she has survived it. Sorry you are mad that she did. Personally I was hoping it would bring her down enough that Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden could step in and claim the mantle. Didn't happen. Ben Carson can survive this scandal too if he is strong enough. If he isn't, well then something was probably going to bring him down eventually, wouldn't you agree? Please don't compare me to KSB on this, and I'm smarter than you on my dumbest day. Thanks for your concern though. How anyone would consider voting for Hillary after the email server boggles my mind. It takes a level of mindless drone politics with which I can't empathize. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted November 7, 2015 Please don't compare me to KSB on this, and I'm smarter than you on my dumbest day. Thanks for your concern though. How anyone would consider voting for Hillary after the email server boggles my mind. It takes a level of mindless drone politics with which I can't empathize. You say that because of your extreme right-wing views. How anyone could have ever considered voting for Ben Carson is beyond my mind. Dude was never qualified, says the dumbest, most moonbattiest things out there, and isn't even a serious candidate to start with--he's just out there to sell books and speaking engagements. I don't like Hillary, mind you. I'm a Bernie Sanders guy and I'd probably vote for Kasich and maybe even Rubio over her in the general election. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,174 Posted November 7, 2015 Please don't compare me to KSB on this: Do what exactly do you disagree with me on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted November 7, 2015 Do what exactly do you disagree with me on? You guys don't disagree, ever. You're one in the same. Both playing the reasonable moderate card whereas in reality you come down on the far right side 99% of the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,174 Posted November 7, 2015 You guys don't disagree, ever. You're one in the same. Both playing the reasonable moderate card whereas in reality you come down on the far right side 99% of the time. Well my question was for Jerry but ok. I guess my stances on Gun Control, legalizing weed, hate Trump with a passion, and the fact I drove to a polling place and voted for ghey marriage in North Carolina don't count in your book. You are right about me leaning Republican on most issues, but it ain't close to 99%. Half the time on this bored I'm playing the devils advocate because the majority here take the liberal position so it's more fun that way. Itsatip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,162 Posted November 7, 2015 You guys don't disagree, ever. You're one in the same. Both playing the reasonable moderate card whereas in reality you come down on the far right side 99% of the time. Says the guy who plays the reasonable moderate lefty. Anyway KSB, to your question, I do agree with you at a certain level, but I think we are on different yet agreeing sides on a few things. I don't care that Carson is getting grief and may lose his candidate over this; I care that Hillary is NOT getting the same treatment. The media's strong liberal bias is a pet peeve of mine, if you haven't noticed. Also I agree that Carson lacks the experience to be president. Same with Trump. And Obama 7 years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,518 Posted November 7, 2015 Says the guy who plays the reasonable moderate lefty. Anyway KSB, to your question, I do agree with you at a certain level, but I think we are on different yet agreeing sides on a few things. I don't care that Carson is getting grief and may lose his candidate over this; I care that Hillary is NOT getting the same treatment. The media's strong liberal bias is a pet peeve of mine, if you haven't noticed. Also I agree that Carson lacks the experience to be president. Same with Trump. And Obama 7 years ago. Yeah, it must be media bias in the media---and not the fact the media and most of the populace can see that the issues that the right have been screaming about are trumped a up bs political witch hunt designed to hurt her political chances as a candidate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted November 7, 2015 I've just become so indifferent to the whole thing years ago, democrats/republican, they're all the same. A politician lied? No I really don't care that much Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,162 Posted November 7, 2015 Yeah, it must be media bias in the media---and not the fact the media and most of the populace can see that the issues that the right have been screaming about are trumped a up bs political witch hunt designed to hurt her political chances as a candidate. What about the email server was trumped up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted November 7, 2015 What about the email server was trumped up? It's just people making excuses for her. In my limited experience, you try doing anything more than a FYI over a non military email, you're going to have some serious issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,518 Posted November 7, 2015 What about the email server was trumped up? What are the issues with the email server? It was within legal at the time---pretty much making any big deal about is a witch hunt to hurt her politically...you know as GOP leaders have admitted. And one of today's news headlines... Report: Clinton never sent classified information from her private email account The U.S. intelligence community no longer believes that Clinton sent messages containing top-secret information from her private email account during her time as Secretary of State, Politico reports. Concerns that Clinton may have jeopardized the security of intelligence by sending classified information over a private server prompted the ongoing FBI inquiry into Clinton's email setup. General I. Charles McCullough III had claimed that two emails sent from Clinton's private account contained top-secret information, but the State Department disagreed, and asked Director of National Intelligence James Clapper's office to adjudicate the dispute. Now, Clapper's office has reportedly ruled in the State Department's favor. "The initial determination was based on a flawed process," the source told Politico. "There was an intelligence product people thought [one of the emails] was based on, but that actually postdated the email in question." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,162 Posted November 7, 2015 What are the issues with the email server? It was within legal at the time---pretty much making any big deal about is a witch hunt to hurt her politically...you know as GOP leaders have admitted. And one of today's news headlines... Report: Clinton never sent classified information from her private email account Well, embellishing your anger issues from 40 years ago is legal as well. It is about ethics, not legality. And nice headline from today proving my point; an accurate statement would be "no evidence yet found." And the question isn't only about classified info. But you already know that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,518 Posted November 7, 2015 Well, embellishing your anger issues from 40 years ago is legal as well. It is about ethics, not legality. And nice headline from today proving my point; an accurate statement would be "no evidence yet found." And the question isn't only about classified info. But you already know that. Yes, I guess it proved your point if your point was that she did nothing wrong, illegal or in way compromised national security. As as for your statement, maybe some wrong doing will be found when the GOP convenes a 9th investigation. Please feel free to list your actual issues with the private email server, other than the vague "it's about ethics". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted November 7, 2015 Says the guy who plays the reasonable moderate lefty. Anyway KSB, to your question, I do agree with you at a certain level, but I think we are on different yet agreeing sides on a few things. I don't care that Carson is getting grief and may lose his candidate over this; I care that Hillary is NOT getting the same treatment. The media's strong liberal bias is a pet peeve of mine, if you haven't noticed. Also I agree that Carson lacks the experience to be president. Same with Trump. And Obama 7 years ago. You seem unwilling to acknowledge that Hillary just spent months getting slammed in the media over the email scandal. And rightly so. Her poll numbers took a beating but now she's rebounding from it--sorry it didn't completely destroy her like you were hoping. Look on the bright side: maybe Carson will survive too, if he's strong enough. Do you not agree that happened or are you just choosing to ignore it because it doesn't fit with the narrative you're trying to construct? Don't bother with an actual answe--I think we all know what the truth is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,162 Posted November 7, 2015 Yes, I guess it proved your point if your point was that she did nothing wrong, illegal or in way compromised national security. As as for your statement, maybe some wrong doing will be found when the GOP convenes a 9th investigation. Please feel free to list your actual issues with the private email server, other than the vague "it's about ethics". Your inability to recognize that you cannot prove a negative in this case is mindnumbingly frustrating. The fact that they have not yet found such emails is not proof that they do not exist. Put another way: the only plausible reason to set up that server is to have communications which some people don't see. I'm open to another interpretation but I can't think of one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted November 7, 2015 Your inability to recognize that you cannot prove a negative in this case is mindnumbingly frustrating. The fact that they have not yet found such emails is not proof that they do not exist. Put another way: the only plausible reason to set up that server is to have communications which some people don't see. I'm open to another interpretation but I can't think of one. It will probably come out so she could have record for a book Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted November 7, 2015 Your inability to recognize that you cannot prove a negative in this case is mindnumbingly frustrating. The fact that they have not yet found such emails is not proof that they do not exist. Put another way: the only plausible reason to set up that server is to have communications which some people don't see. I'm open to another interpretation but I can't think of one. So there must be shenanigans involved, since jerry can't think of a reason to have one besides the one he believes. Case closed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted November 7, 2015 Why is there not one single Republican here willing to acknowledge that the exact same thing they were b1tching about with Obama is even worse with Carson? The man does not have one bit of experience that suggests that he is qualified to be President, other than maybe his comfort level with bending and stretching the truth. Every one of you guys bitched about Obama not being properly vetted by the media, yet when one of yours (although all of you are careful to say Carson is not "yours" per se ) gets the slightest media attention for stories he's peddling to sell a life story to voters, it's LIBERAL MEDIA BIAS!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,162 Posted November 7, 2015 Why is there not one single Republican here willing to acknowledge that the exact same thing they were b1tching about with Obama is even worse with Carson? The man does not have one bit of experience that suggests that he is qualified to be President, other than maybe his comfort level with bending and stretching the truth. Every one of you guys bitched about Obama not being properly vetted by the media, yet when one of yours (although all of you are careful to say Carson is not "yours" per se ) gets the slightest media attention for stories he's peddling to sell a life story to voters, it's LIBERAL MEDIA BIAS!!!!!! Says the guy who plays the reasonable moderate lefty. Anyway KSB, to your question, I do agree with you at a certain level, but I think we are on different yet agreeing sides on a few things. I don't care that Carson is getting grief and may lose his candidate over this; I care that Hillary is NOT getting the same treatment. The media's strong liberal bias is a pet peeve of mine, if you haven't noticed. Also I agree that Carson lacks the experience to be president. Same with Trump. And Obama 7 years ago. Maybe you should read our posts before making such a statement. So there must be shenanigans involved, since jerry can't think of a reason to have one besides the one he believes. Case closed. Are you just throwing the gun now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,011 Posted November 7, 2015 Your inability to recognize that you cannot prove a negative in this case is mindnumbingly frustrating. The fact that they have not yet found such emails is not proof that they do not exist. Put another way: the only plausible reason to set up that server is to have communications which some people don't see. I'm open to another interpretation but I can't think of one. I actually agree but since I recall the GOP insisting the Bush White House did nothing when they "lost" millions of emails sent over an RNC server I think this is pretty obvious hypocritical fake outrage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted November 7, 2015 I actually agree but since I recall the GOP insisting the Bush White House did nothing when they "lost" millions of emails sent over an RNC server I think this is pretty obvious hypocritical fake outrage. I think the difference is they lost millions out of the tens of million ms of email, she solely used a private server. Dumb move both parts though, but I can see where someone would say that's the difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
