KSB2424 3,174 Posted February 16, 2016 And yet people like porkbutt, Gocolts and drobeski screams about Obama's supposedly not being a natural born citizen while not giving a damn about Cruz's status. Why is that? I don't know. But IIRC it was because Obama wouldn't show his Birth Certificate at first. Now that we know he was born in Hawaii it seems crazy but before he was withholding it for some reason. I don't think the question was if being born in Hawaii made him ineligible it was a question of exactly where he was born. Again, I didn't follow it closely so I may be wrong here...... Either way it's typical partisan stuff. When your guy does it its wrong, when my guy does it its fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 16, 2016 You are dead wrong, the Birther movement was always predicated on race. If Obama were a white liberal born in Hawaii they sure would've hated him but it wouldn't have been based on some notion that he wasn't even Americanlink, proof ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted February 16, 2016 I don't know. But IIRC it was because Obama wouldn't show his Birth Certificate at first. Now that we know he was born in Hawaii it seems crazy but before he was withholding it for some reason. I don't think the question was if being born in Hawaii made him ineligible it was a question of exactly where he was born. Again, I didn't follow it closely so I may be wrong here...... Either way it's typical partisan stuff. When your guy does it its wrong, when my guy does it its fine. Willful ignorance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,174 Posted February 16, 2016 Willful ignorance Who is that directed at. Me? You're gonna have to be more specific. What did I say was wrong? I don't keep up with which posters were "Birthers" and whatnot. Sheesh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted February 16, 2016 Who is that directed at. Me? You're gonna have to be more specific. What did I say was wrong? I don't keep up with which posters were "Birthers" and whatnot. Sheesh. Yes, you. You've got the same problem as other moderate righties where you're afraid to take on the birthers and other extremists on your side and call them out for what they are Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,174 Posted February 16, 2016 Yes, you. You've got the same problem as other moderate righties where you're afraid to take on the birthers and other extremists on your side and call them out for what they are Have you not seen me posting anti-Trump and anti-Ted Cruz threads and posts for a while now? GoColts went apeshit on me the other day for crying out loud. I'm sorry I'm not as concerned and worry about the "birther" stuff as you seem to be. My bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted February 16, 2016 Have you not seen me posting anti-Trump and anti-Ted Cruz threads and posts for a while now? GoColts went apeshit on me the other day for crying out loud. I'm sorry I'm not as concerned and worry about the "birther" stuff as you seem to be. My bad. That's true, you are right. I guess we can agree to disagree on this but to me the Birther movement was aways a racist one at its core Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 897 Posted February 16, 2016 And yet people like porkbutt, Gocolts and drobeski screams about Obama's supposedly not being a natural born citizen while not giving a damn about Cruz's status. Why is that? link to either one? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,518 Posted February 16, 2016 I don't know. But IIRC it was because Obama wouldn't show his Birth Certificate at first. Now that we know he was born in Hawaii it seems crazy but before he was withholding it for some reason. I don't think the question was if being born in Hawaii made him ineligible it was a question of exactly where he was born. Again, I didn't follow it closely so I may be wrong here...... Either way it's typical partisan stuff. When your guy does it its wrong, when my guy does it its fine. You are near the ballpark, but not in it. And I like you lay this at the President's feet, that he wouldn't show his Birth Certificate and somehow, despite not following the story have come to the conclusion he was withholding it too. You have an interesting way of arguing points...I'll give that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,124 Posted February 16, 2016 Couldn't get into the birther movement against Obama and can't get into the new one concerning Cruz. Interesting take by the people who were outraged by the original birthers the first go around. They are now whining about the hypocrisy of I guess what amounts to not enough whining this time around.. Trump seems to be the only person being consistent, that's a scary thought... Well, other than those of us that didn't care the first time around, we still don't care.. Cool story bro's.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,576 Posted February 16, 2016 just a thought, maybe Cruz was really against Obama during the birther thing, and wasn't even planning on running knowing its the same issue, but clearly since there wasn't an issue with Obummer, Cruz now realizes he can run Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,147 Posted February 16, 2016 are we still fighting about this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,719 Posted February 16, 2016 No same person thinks this Cruz birther thing is a legitimate issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
