A little keeper league help....

[Burt 50]

Its a 5x5 H2H league. We keep 15 for a max of 5 years. I'm pretty loaded, and would like to keep pretty much my entire roster. But since 13 if them have to go back into the pool, I'd like to get at least a little something for a few of them.

 

I traded away my 4th, 5th and 6th round picks toward the end of the year last season to "rent" Price and Bumgarner for the stretch. I do have two 3rd rounders, but I dont have any picks between those two and my 7th rounder. To move back into those rounds, I'm considering trading Heyward and Puig...plus one of my 7th round picks and my 9th rounder for another team's 3rd and 5th round picks. I was planning on keeping Heyward, but probably not Puig (hate the guy). By trading those two, I'd still have 3 of my 4 OF spots secure with Trout, Harper and Polanco.

 

My roster is:

 

1B Cabrera, AGonz

2B Odor, Kipnis

3B Bryant, Machado

SS Tulowitzki, Kang

OF Trout, Harper, Polanco, Heyward, Puig, Conforto

C Perez, Mesoraco

SP Kershaw, Arrieta, Cole, Harvey, Syndergaard, Lester, TWalker, McCullers

RP Chapman, Street, Robertson, Allen

 

My keepers if I make the trade will be:

 

1B Cabrera, AGonz

2B Odor

3B Bryant, Machado

SS Tulowitzki

OF Trout, Harper, Polanco

SP Kershaw, Arrieta, Cole, Harvey, Syndergaard,

and for my 15th spot either Kipnis or Chapman

 

Thoughts?

[lambert58 71]

Bottom line - Do you think you can upgrade for those 2 in the rounds you are targeting to get back into? It looks like you have a solid team all the way around. If you feel though you can add some depth/talent at positions you are lacking. I would make the trade. While it is nice to have that kind of depth, it is also a waste to have it sitting on the bench when you have other areas you can improve.

[GuardBum 82]

Yeah I'd trade both away. I'm with you on Puig and by sending them you'd give yourself 5 of the top 30 picks. Given that you could have 150 guys off the board I'd keep Chapman, let kipnis go and hope you get him or maybe something better than Odor even. Unless someone at 2b enters the pool I'm not sure you'll be able to "upgrade" most places. You may as well wait on Chapman and take some chances with your depth.

[Burt 50]

Bottom line - Do you think you can upgrade for those 2 in the rounds you are targeting to get back into? It looks like you have a solid team all the way around. If you feel though you can add some depth/talent at positions you are lacking. I would make the trade. While it is nice to have that kind of depth, it is also a waste to have it sitting on the bench when you have other areas you can improve.

 

I doubt if I'll be able to upgrade over those two at the picks I'll be getting, but I know I cant keep them anyway so I'd like to get at least a little something for them. I guess I could hope they'd fall to me in the draft, but I know I wont be taking either of them with my first round pick. One of them could still be available with my second round pick but I'll survive without them.

 

Yeah I'd trade both away. I'm with you on Puig and by sending them you'd give yourself 5 of the top 30 picks. Given that you could have 150 guys off the board I'd keep Chapman, let kipnis go and hope you get him or maybe something better than Odor even. Unless someone at 2b enters the pool I'm not sure you'll be able to "upgrade" most places. You may as well wait on Chapman and take some chances with your depth.

 

I've been going back and forth, but I'm leaning slightly to Chapman right now. I have until the end of the day to make up my mind.

[posty 2,696]

Did the Cub owner bite on Lester?

[Burt 50]

Not yet. He comes into to work in a couple of hours so I'll lean on him a little then. I think he will. Lester would easily be one of his top 2 pitchers.

[WhiteWonder 2,734]

Just how good is a 3rd rounder? I take it that with how deep your team is, 7th and 9th rounders are not very important but I'm wondering what kind of talent you think will be there in round 3 to help you upgrade other areas by doing that deal involving Heyward and puig.

 

I agree with you on puig but might want to see how Heyward shakes out in that cubs lineup.

 

Would maybe be helpful to know how many more years you can keep certain players.

 

I like he idea of moving Lester

 

Also closer is so fluid that if you don't think you can upgrade 2nd base in the draft I would keep kipnis. You'd be tossing back 3 or 4 starting closers right? Plus there are some good us out there to target who may end up with jobs.. Jensen for example, benoit... and new guys grab the reigns all the time.

[Burt 50]

I can keep Trout, Harper, Machado and Harvey through the end of 2017. Everyone else I have for 4-5 years.

 

Good point on the number of available closers. I think I may even be able to grab Chapman with my #2 pick. If not him, I'm certain Robertson and Allen will be available.

 

He's taking the Lester deal....his 3rd for my 7th. I have two 7th round picks so I'm good there. This will give me 5 picks in the first 3 rounds. No real big names available after the first 10-15 picks, but still very good players to be had.

[Jim Mora 34]

That's a hell of a keeper league. You're stacked I say dump Heyward - I think he's overrated (compared to most of your outfield) and should bring the most value. If you can get a bite on Puig go for it, but I think his value has crashed. Should be able to get more out of Heyward.

 

Curious, why keeping Odor over Kipnis? I'm a Rangers fan and I'm not sure I'm bought into him completely yet. I'd take Kipnis over him in that TEX lineup.

Also I haven't been good at fantasy baseball for almost a decade, so take that into consideration.

[WhiteWonder 2,734]

sorry i meant to say Jepsen not Jensen. As in Kevin Jepsen behind an injury prone Perkins in minny.

 

I even think Robertson could be better than Chapman (not skill wise) but for this year with the 30 game suspension and even future years as the white sox seem to be building something nice.

 

i would focus on movinjg Puig but I really would hold onto Heyward. Im assuming you need to start 3 outfielders so you really want to have 4 nice options until you see what conforto actually brings to the table and while heyward may be overrated as a star player, im just looking at the lineup he plays in an really liking the counting stats he can put up.

 

 

jmho

[GuardBum 82]

with the OF you have if you can't trade Puig and Heyward for something that helps your team, I'd dump them into the pool to maybe bring up the talent you'd have availble to you with your 5 early picks.

[Burt 50]

OK, here we go with a similar situation a year later....

 

Its a 5x5 H2H keeper league. We start 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CI, MI, 4OF, C, UT, 3SP, 3RP. 1P We can keep 15 players for a maximum of 5 years. My roster includes:

1B Cabrera, Freeman, AGonz

2B Odor, Kipnis, Gordon

3B Bryant, Machado

SS Story, Tulowitzki

OF Trout, Harper, Polanco,

C Perez

SP Kershaw, Syndergaard, Arrieta, Cole, CMartinez, Matz, Urias, Taillon, AReyes

RP Chapman, Allen, Robertson, Ramos

As you can see, I'm pretty loaded. But trying to cut down to 15 players is pretty tough. As of now, I'm going with:

1B Cabrera, Freeman

2B Odor

3B Byrant, Machado (last yr to keep him)

OF Trout (last yr to keep him), Harper (last yr to keep him), Polanco

SP Kershaw, Arrieta, Syndergaard,

So I need four more players. Any suggestions?

One thing I've toyed with is trading Harper, Trout and Machado away for 1st round picks next season in hopes of landing at least two of them next year. But I have a better than good chance at repeating this year so I quickly gave that up. So instead, I thought about trading just Harper away to the team who has a 25% chance of landing next year's #1 overall and a 75% chance of landing a top 3 overall pick. Dumb?

[WhiteWonder 2,734]

i prefer to roll with winning now. Harper had a "down year" so i'd rather let him have a hot streak before trading him.

 

 

as for 4 more keepers my inital reaction is

 

Urias

Chapman

Story

and i kind of like Dee Gordon in a 5x5

[GuardBum 82]

Story, Gordon, Chapman, Allen

I like Cole and Urias as other choices but this would leave you with only needing 2 hitters and 2 pitchers.

If trading Harper would get you some other reassurance this year then it might be worth it. But it'd be tough to replace with as steady as your roster looks to repeat.

[WhiteWonder 2,734]

Rank the following players for head to head categories leaguess. 7x7... runs, rbi, home runs, steals, avg, obp........ Wins, losses, strikeouts, saves, holds, era, whip

 

Mike Trout

Jose Altuve

Mookie Betts

Paul Gildschmidt

Clayton Kershaw

Manny Machado

Bryce Harper

Anthony Rizzo

[Burt 50]

Trout

Betts

Altuve

Goldy

Machado

Kershaw

Harper

Rizzo

[WhiteWonder 2,734]

Trout

Betts

Altuve

Goldy

Machado

Kershaw

Harper

Rizzo

I'm thinking along those lines. I pick 7th so I might scratch Rizzo. His numbers are not special and 1B is deep.

 

Kershaw is puzzling me a little because there is no QS category. But then again there are no doubles or anything for hitters like we have in this league.

 

My keepers in this league are

Bryan 1B/3B/OF

Arenado 3B

Verlander SP

Segura 2B/SS

 

I have my picks in rounds 1-5 in tact.

[posty 2,696]

I'm thinking along those lines. I pick 7th so I might scratch Rizzo. His numbers are not special and 1B is deep.

 

Kershaw is puzzling me a little because there is no QS category. But then again there are no doubles or anything for hitters like we have in this league.

 

My keepers in this league are

Bryan 1B/3B/OF

Arenado 3B

Verlander SP

Segura 2B/SS

 

I have my picks in rounds 1-5 in tact.

strombn likes pitching, so don't be surprised if he takes Kershaw at #1, especially with his keeper list...

[WhiteWonder 2,734]

strombn likes pitching, so don't be surprised if he takes Kershaw at #1, especially with his keeper list...

Would be fine with me. In redraft baseball leagues I generally wait a bit on pitching. Kershaw was only on my kind because I own 2 of the top 6 or so hitters in the game already.