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Have you been the victim of a (violent) crime?

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I had an alarm in my first home in Hawaii. The alarm went off in the middle of the night when I was home alone and it was pretty scary. Not sure if it was a false alarm, but I can imagine having a gun in that situation would have lessened the fear.

 

Fortunately, I no longer have an alarm.

 

Problem solved. :thumbsup:

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No. Property crimes sure, but never violent crime.

 

Know a few people who have been but they were high risk due to their occupation and/or lifestyle choices.

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Many violent encounters but only 2 come to mind where I would consider myself a 'victim'

1. Closing up the bar and bringing out the deposit bag, was hit in the back of the head with a brick, lost the damn nightly deposit

2. Was bouncing a local dive and had to remove a guy for starting a fight with his ex, later I walker her to her car as she was still fearfull, dude tries to run us over in his truck, was able to shove her out of the way but he got me in the should with his side mirror as I tried to get out of the way before he slammed into her car.

Yikes! Would a gun have helped in those situations?

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And to answer your question. No, I haven't had to use my arsenal of weapons for fending off violent threats yet.

 

Then again, I haven't used my life insurance yet either, but I still have it just in case. Just like you Pen, just like you.

But you're definitely going to die someday, focktard :doh:

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According to the BJS, as of 2013, every person in the US over the age of 12 statistically has a 1 in 43 chance (year over year) of being involved in a violent crime (forcible rape, aggravated assault, robbery, homicide/murder).

 

 

1 in 43.

 

If 1 of every 43 planes crashed, would you get on one?

 

ETA: Yes, I've been attacked. I also could have helped a woman once when I was younger, and didn't.

No, my gun has never been drawn to de-escalate a situation, but I came close once for the defense of a young man being beaten by 4 thugs. Instead I recorded them on my phone, had fiancé call 911, put right hand on gun in truck and told them "you're all going to jail".

 

They looked at me like I was next till they read the side of my truck that said "Firearms Training" and they left.

I followed them in the truck, giving turn by turn directions to the PO PO. They caught em.

That analogy is way off :wacko:

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Yikes! Would a gun have helped in those situations?

#I no, I had no idea where they came from and only got a glimpse of the guy as he ran off, I was pretty woozy but didn't go out.

2. I don't know, maybe, for me it's just not worth it, having to live with using it would be worse than what happen not having it. Will that always be the case, :dunno: but I'm now 50, been through some, ummm, stuff and survived so I don't want one. Having said that I have no issue with someone else feeling more safe carrying.

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#I no, I had no idea where they came from and only got a glimpse of the guy as he ran off, I was pretty woozy but didn't go out.

2. I don't know, maybe, for me it's just not worth it, having to live with using it would be worse than what happen not having it. Will that always be the case, :dunno: but I'm now 50, been through some, ummm, stuff and survived so I don't want one. Having said that I have no issue with someone else feeling more safe carrying.

Hmmmm...any hint concerning your stuff?

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Hmmmm...any hint concerning your stuff?

mostly bar fights and putting myself into bad situations that turned violent. I can't stand a bully or a guy willing to be physical with a woman, if I see it out in public I'm going to say something/do something to stop it. I also had a lot of friends when I was younger that tending to act more aggressive with they were out with me which led to encounters as well. Before I was 25 I had been shot at, stabbed in the shoulder, hit in the head with a brick, had steel tip darts thrown at me and hit in the mouth with a bat that cost me a few teeth. But I have mellowed with age :doublethumbsup:

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I'm sure BLS is far better at defending himself than the average bear, but I don't think he's immune to a crime of passion. The thing is, the likelihood of the latter far outweighs the chance of some random intruder threatening his life.

 

And if you are talking about overall safety, I'd wager he is no less suicidal than the average person, but he has lethal means readily at his disposal.

Not to mention possibility that a kid finds his gun and hurts himself or accidental discharge accident occurs. These risks far, far outweigh the possibility of some guy trying to outright murder you.

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You should be called pedanticstraw.

 

My point was that "safety" is a silly reason to concealed carry given that there are many other bad things that could happen to a person that guys like BLS probably don't prepare for every morning.

 

I've got no big problem with concealed carry. I would venture to guess these guys are far better trained than the average gun owner and infinitely less likely to perpetrate crime.

 

I just don't buy safety as a reason to carry a gun every day unless there's some crazy circumstance, like you're carrying huge amounts of cash or routinely in bad neighborhoods for your job etc.

 

I completely understand your point of view. I do.

The problem is we don't get to pick and choose when those things happen. Bad people do. I am, a control freak. I no likey being out of control.

 

I think your post is very pragmatic and agree on penultimate flaw. She doesn't like guns much.

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I completely understand your point of view. I do.

The problem is we don't get to pick and choose when those things happen. Bad people do. I am, a control freak. I no likey being out of control.

 

I think your post is very pragmatic and agree on penultimate flaw. She doesn't like guns much.

Oh, I see what you did there! That was very clever, implying I'm a female because I don't need to carry a weapon at all times to function. :thumbsup:

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Not to mention possibility that a kid finds his gun and hurts himself or accidental discharge accident occurs. These risks far, far outweigh the possibility of some guy trying to outright murder you

 

Goodgawd you're a pussie.

 

No kids are in my home. I don't have any kids. If I had visitors with kids, they would not be able to reach the guns.

My visitors all know I have guns in the house. They would not let their kids run around the house.

 

My gawd how do you function with 300,000,000 fire-breathing, soul-raping, child-seeking death machines around you.

It must be maddening.

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Oh, I see what you did there! That was very clever, implying I'm a female because I don't need to carry a weapon at all times to function. :thumbsup:

 

No it's because you and worms are both biches.

 

I thought it was obvious. :dunno:

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Never personally been in one. But should of been I guess.

 

I was working at a convenience store while I was going to school. I switched shifts with my best buddy at the time, and he took the Saturday night shift I was supposed to have.. He was shot and killed during a robbery that night - shot point blank in the chest w/a sawed off shot gun.

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Goodgawd you're a pussie.

 

No kids are in my home. I don't have any kids. If I had visitors with kids, they would not be able to reach the guns.

My visitors all know I have guns in the house. They would not let their kids run around the house.

 

My gawd how do you function with 300,000,000 fire-breathing, soul-raping, child-seeking death machines around you.

It must be maddening.

I'm a pvssy because I look at statistics saying there's far more likely to be someone hurt in a gun incident if there's a gun in the home? :wacko:

 

Your last paragraph is hysterical since you're the one convinced that everyone out there is a potential murderer waiting to kill you if only you were unarmed :lol:

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But you're definitely going to die someday, focktard :doh:

Term douchnozzle. Use your brain a little before spouting off as a know-it-all.

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Term douchnozzle. Use your brain a little before spouting off as a know-it-all.

It's a focking guarantee you will die. Perhaps not in the next 20 years but it WILL happen.

 

It is by no means guaranteed you will be seriously hurt or killed in a crime. Not in the next 20 years and not freaking ever.

 

:doh:

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It's a focking guarantee you will die. Perhaps not in the next 20 years but it WILL happen.

It is by no means guaranteed you will be seriously hurt or killed in a crime. Not in the next 20 years and not freaking ever.

:doh:

I'll type slower.

 

I really don't want my 20 year term insurance policy to be used. That means me is dead before I really am ready.

I really don't want arsenal of weapons to be used to defend my family. That means we would be attacked or threatened.

 

I don't want either situations to happen BUT am prepared just in case either do. It is called taking care of your family.

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I'll type slower.

 

I really don't want my 20 year term insurance policy to be used. That means me is dead before I really am ready.

I really don't want arsenal of weapons to be used to defend my family. That means we would be attacked or threatened.

 

I don't want either situations to happen BUT am prepared just in case either do. It is called taking care of your family.

Can't see a problem with that.

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I'll type slower.

 

I really don't want my 20 year term insurance policy to be used. That means me is dead before I really am ready.

I really don't want arsenal of weapons to be used to defend my family. That means we would be attacked or threatened.

 

I don't want either situations to happen BUT am prepared just in case either do. It is called taking care of your family.

Good for you. It's just that the situations are not analogous since you WILL die at some point but you probably won't ever need to use your "arsenal of weapons" to "defend your family."

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Good for you. It's just that the situations are not analogous since you WILL die at some point but you probably won't ever need to use your "arsenal of weapons" to "defend your family."

We will let the other posters decide. No you shithead.

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You should be called pedanticstraw.

 

My point was that "safety" is a silly reason to concealed carry given that there are many other bad things that could happen to a person that guys like BLS probably don't prepare for every morning.

 

I've got no big problem with concealed carry. I would venture to guess these guys are far better trained than the average gun owner and infinitely less likely to perpetrate crime.

 

I just don't buy safety as a reason to carry a gun every day unless there's some crazy circumstance, like you're carrying huge amounts of cash or routinely in bad neighborhoods for your job etc.

 

He can be pedantic! :dunno:

 

He can be pedantic! :dunno:

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Never personally been in one. But should of been I guess.

 

I was working at a convenience store while I was going to school. I switched shifts with my best buddy at the time, and he took the Saturday night shift I was supposed to have.. He was shot and killed during a robbery that night - shot point blank in the chest w/a sawed off shot gun.

Damn dude.

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Reading the gun threads, it seems quite a few of you have firearms for protection. I've always thought people overestimate their risk of violent crime, but I've been fortunate to live in relatively safe places. Though I've heard of plenty of identity theft and property crime, I haven't much first hand experience. Growing up, my family's riding mover was stolen off our property and I had a pair of boots stolen outside my workplace. Also someone hit me on my bike and drove off. That's it.

 

As far as violent crime, before we met, my ex-wife (34C) was sexually assaulted by one of her supervisors, and a good friend's wife (36C/D) was mugged a few weeks ago - really a purse snatching that evolved to mugging because she wouldn't let go of her bag.

 

What about you? For the gun owners, have you ever used your firearm for self protection or to deter a crime?

Better to have a gun and not need it, than need one and not have it

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Better to have a gun and not need it, than need one and not have it

The same could be said for an atomic bomb. The argument is you're unlikely to "need" it, and owning one actually increases your risk of something bad happening.

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