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Not sure you want Dez or Freeman. I was one of those advocating that Coleman overtakes Freeman at some point in the season. It may have happened in week 1. Prescott is a good game manager, but he's not going to throw to Dez when he's covered like Romo would. That may change, but if it doesn't Dez's targets are going to get cut in half if Romo is done for the year.

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Not sure you want Dez or Freeman. I was one of those advocating that Coleman overtakes Freeman at some point in the season. It may have happened in week 1. Prescott is a good game manager, but he's not going to throw to Dez when he's covered like Romo would. That may change, but if it doesn't Dez's targets are going to get cut in half if Romo is done for the year.

 

I think if the Cowboys are competitive without throwing to Dez, Prescott will continue to throw elsewhere. However, if they lose 2 or 3 in a row and Dez is only getting 2 or 3 targets a game, get ready for a Dez blowup. He's too good to simply use as a decoy.

 

Getting a solid running game going would help Dez too...I guess we'll see how things shake out in the coming weeks.

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I think if the Cowboys are competitive without throwing to Dez, Prescott will continue to throw elsewhere. However, if they lose 2 or 3 in a row and Dez is only getting 2 or 3 targets a game, get ready for a Dez blowup. He's too good to simply use as a decoy.

 

Getting a solid running game going would help Dez too...I guess we'll see how things shake out in the coming weeks.

I don't disagree and 1 game is too small of a sample to tell, but the road to being an NFL starting QB is littered with those who continually check down rather than throw into coverage for their playmaker WR to make a play. In game one Prescott was captain checkdown (Whiten and Beasley saw 26 of his 45 attempts). While some of this was likely by design, I saw nothing in that game that makes me believe he can get the ball downfield to Dez consistently.

 

I agree that a ground game that occupies a safety would be a big advantage, but, in regards to this topic, I'm not overly keen on assuming all these things happen and thus would be unlikely to try to acquire Dez in a trade.

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In all fairness, Dak fit two nice balls into Dez in which he dropped, one for a td, one for a very long gain. One pass apparently Dez couldn't see. Let me add this, the two Giant corners had him blanketed practically all game. Dez did not play well and did not get any separation. He is overrated, drops to many.

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Dont just say buy low on every stud who had a bad game. Sometimes there is cause for concern.

 

Top buy candidates to me are Lacy who looked good in real football, ARob and Marshall who didn't have good games. Screw Dez, he is a whiny lazy bum with questionable hands.

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Not sure you want Dez or Freeman. I was one of those advocating that Coleman overtakes Freeman at some point in the season. It may have happened in week 1. Prescott is a good game manager, but he's not going to throw to Dez when he's covered like Romo would. That may change, but if it doesn't Dez's targets are going to get cut in half if Romo is done for the year.

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You're not gonna find anybody willing to sell their first round picks this soon. Especially at a buy low price. That's wishful thinking

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Gurley is going to see stuffed lines all season. He's super talented, but you might see some time pass before they figure out how to get him a little room.

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I might be nutz, but give me Sammy watkins... it sounds like owners are freaking out and worried about his foot, but reports show there have been no set backs and he will just be dealing with pain... sounds like the injury risk is about the same as his ADP... it's risky, but may be worth a shot.

 

Antonio Gates SD completely forgot about him in the 2nd half, and I think they look to get him and Gordon more invloved moving forward.

 

J. Landry... looked like he is going to be a stud, limited production week 1, but the targets are there.

 

Also, based on what I saw, you might want to see if you can steal J.Charles... especially if you are a Ware owner... seems like everyone is panicking, and they may be correct to... but it seems like they are going to bring him back slowly.... if you have depth at wr/rb, why not take a stab and see if you get lucky with some elite talent?

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People are offering very low blow deals for Watkins right now...so much so that it makes sense to go down with the ship with Footloose Watkins.

 

I wish I had someone willing to sell dez for 75 cents on the dollar. Having him as a wr 3 would be glorious. Sure, his scary floor is very real and hella unpredictable but I really don't see that as something he's gonna actually experience multiple weeks. As long as you don't need him to be supreme every week, he's a nice thing to have.

 

But oops...too many folks draft him as their wr1 with a straight face and then draft other positions so they don't have anything else to go with him.

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Dont just say buy low on every stud who had a bad game. Sometimes there is cause for concern.

 

Top buy candidates to me are Lacy who looked good in real football, ARob and Marshall who didn't have good games. Screw Dez, he is a whiny lazy bum with questionable hands.

And he can't read. So there's always that...

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I picked up Dez cheap from the village idiot. That being said if that TD he caught was not reversed he has a pedestrian game but still puts on positive points. Dez Bryant is one of the best WRs in the league, if you can get him relatively cheap I jump all over it. Thomas Rawls another buy low. I would not touch Gurley, the Rams offensive is horrendous. He is going to be running against a stacked box all year and as far as I can see hes no Barry Sanders.

 

My buy lows

 

Dez

T Rawls

Barnidge

Russell Wilson

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I picked up Dez cheap from the village idiot. That being said if that TD he caught was not reversed he has a pedestrian game but still puts on positive points. Dez Bryant is one of the best WRs in the league, if you can get him relatively cheap I jump all over it. Thomas Rawls another buy low. I would not touch Gurley, the Rams offensive is horrendous. He is going to be running against a stacked box all year and as far as I can see hes no Barry Sanders.

 

My buy lows

 

Dez

T Rawls

Barnidge

Russell Wilson

 

If you can get someone selling Wilson, Rawls, or Dez low after one week, yeah, you'd have to be playing against idiots. Barnidge is a different story, I'd be selling him mostly because I was never buying him .

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I picked up Dez cheap from the village idiot. That being said if that TD he caught was not reversed he has a pedestrian game but still puts on positive points. Dez Bryant is one of the best WRs in the league, if you can get him relatively cheap I jump all over it. Thomas Rawls another buy low. I would not touch Gurley, the Rams offensive is horrendous. He is going to be running against a stacked box all year and as far as I can see hes no Barry Sanders.

 

My buy lows

 

Dez

T Rawls

Barnidge

Russell Wilson

Dez has had a terrible catch rate ever since he entered the league. Dallas just never wanted to admit they focked up drafting him. Dude kinda sucks as an actual real live football player if you're trying to win games, and it's finally caught up to him in fantasy production these past couple years.

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Dez has had a terrible catch rate ever since he entered the league. Dallas just never wanted to admit they focked up drafting him. Dude kinda sucks as an actual real live football player if you're trying to win games, and it's finally caught up to him in fantasy production these past couple years.

 

I'm a Packer fan irl, but I've always liked Dez. I like his attitude, frankly. He gets aggro, but it's almost never negative about others, it's to get people fired up. I loved that we won the game on that overturned catch, but I felt bad for the guy at the same time. I like him. That said...I've had him in my keeper league since he came into the league, and this year was the year I finally let him go. He never has lived up to the hype, and there's always been an excuse that people give. Romo is hurt, Dez is hurt, they're running the ball more this year, conservative play calling, etc.

 

But facts is facts. Dez doesn't take over games and win them when his team is struggling. The team struggles, Dez goes down with it. He's good. But he's no longer one of the best in the league, top ten, if he ever really was. Top 20, sure. Maybe top 10 from potential every year, but not from what he actually achieves.

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He's still flying under the radar, so to speak, but if you can get a deal pulled off for Amari Cooper do it now.

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I have someone trying to trade me Dez and Bell. I basically told him I don't want to spend what it would take to get Dez included with the Bell offer I had made. The guy had already offered me Bell and Dez for Hyde and AJ Green. No. He offered Bell for my Djohns straight up. No. So yeah I am not messing with my team that much since it's looking pretty solid past the qb position top to bottom.

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I'm a Packer fan irl, but I've always liked Dez. I like his attitude, frankly. He gets aggro, but it's almost never negative about others, it's to get people fired up. I loved that we won the game on that overturned catch, but I felt bad for the guy at the same time. I like him. That said...I've had him in my keeper league since he came into the league, and this year was the year I finally let him go. He never has lived up to the hype, and there's always been an excuse that people give. Romo is hurt, Dez is hurt, they're running the ball more this year, conservative play calling, etc.

 

But facts is facts. Dez doesn't take over games and win them when his team is struggling. The team struggles, Dez goes down with it. He's good. But he's no longer one of the best in the league, top ten, if he ever really was. Top 20, sure. Maybe top 10 from potential every year, but not from what he actually achieves.

 

I didn't look at game logs, so maybe this is skewed in that he had huge weeks at the end of the year after people were out of contention, but how is the following not "top 10 achievement?"

 

2012 - 92 / 1,382 / 12

2013 - 93 / 1,233 / 13

2014 - 88 / 1,320 / 16

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The guy had already offered me Bell and Dez for Hyde and AJ Green.

 

Hyde will not make it through the pounding he's taking. You might regret not taking this.

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Hyde will not make it through the pounding he's taking. You might regret not taking this.

I am not trading away Green. My rbs are fine enough to not need Bell. Maintaining as much receiver superiority as i can is probably my best shot at winning the league. I am sticking with what I believe with Green and that is he will be and even bigger target for Dalton. Look at what he did to Revis, who did have solid coverage on him. This is just that type of year for Green where he finishes top 3. Then next year he will be drafted as such and he probably regresses a little. It's just what happens in ffball year to year.

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Call me crazy but I think Dez is a great buy low if the price is right. Sure, Prescott took the easy shots to Witten and Beasly instead of downfeild to Dez, but it's not like he played badly. If Dak threw for 125 yds and 3 INTs then I'd be really worried. It was his first NFL start as a rookie and surely nerves were in play as well as inexperience, but you have to assume he will become more confident as time goes on. I'm not expecting Dez to put up 125/2 TDs this week but I wouldn't be surprosed if he starts putting up good numbers by week 3 or 4. Plus, Romo was not put in IR, so he may be back wk 6 or 7. If you could afford to get him "cheap" from a panicked owner and wait 3-6 weeks why wouldn't you?

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I didn't look at game logs, so maybe this is skewed in that he had huge weeks at the end of the year after people were out of contention, but how is the following not "top 10 achievement?"

 

2012 - 92 / 1,382 / 12

2013 - 93 / 1,233 / 13

2014 - 88 / 1,320 / 16

 

People are idiots. They are discussing " game taking over ability" and ish. This is about Fantasy and Dez is a fantasy monster. That TD was inches away from standing and with that he has a decent week. Guy will finish in top 12 this year- again.

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Dez will get the ball. Sooner or later they will get it to him if they have to line him up in the back field.

Dak is just going into his 2nd game is clearly limited at this point. That will change with time, hopefully not that much time.

For the time being it does appear Dez's value will suffer. He is a little bit of a streaky player and times like these are no different.

He will have a big game or two before finally producing like normal at some point. It may take Romo getting back in the starting line up.

I believe he will get it together with Dak though in the next couple of games.

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Dez will get the ball. Sooner or later they will get it to him if they have to line him up in the back field.

Dak is just going into his 2nd game is clearly limited at this point. That will change with time, hopefully not that much time.

For the time being it does appear Dez's value will suffer. He is a little bit of a streaky player and times like these are no different.

He will have a big game or two before finally producing like normal at some point. It may take Romo getting back in the starting line up.

I believe he will get it together with Dak though in the next couple of games.

This ^. I am fine at WR and RB and traded Woodhead + Sanders for Dez and CMike and very happy about it. I have other WRs and can afford to wait on Dez. Why not make an offer for him if you do to??!!

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I didn't look at game logs, so maybe this is skewed in that he had huge weeks at the end of the year after people were out of contention, but how is the following not "top 10 achievement?"

 

2012 - 92 / 1,382 / 12

2013 - 93 / 1,233 / 13

2014 - 88 / 1,320 / 16

 

12 was good, yeah. I took 3rd in that league that year and he was a big part.

13 - he killed me over the middle of the season (from a WR1 perspective). Had a good finish, but I was doomed by then. My WR1 disappeared for weeks.

14 - here are some games from that year: 4/55 - 3/44/1 - 4/63 - 3/30/1 - 2/15/1 - 4/73 - 6/82. He had a couple of really dominant games that year, 10/103/1, 6/158/2, and a brilliant 6/114/3 in week 15. But those 7 weeks aren't what I need from my WR1. So yeah, even that 14 season, lead the league in TDs...also, hard as it is to believe, wasn't as great of a help as people thought. I guess I want my WR1 to be more consistent. His scoring comes in bunches.

 

So saying not top 10 wasn't accurate from his irl stats. But in 13 and 14, there were guys I would have rather had.

 

Again, he's still good, I'm not saying he's Reuben Randle :) Just that he hasn't helped me in all those years *as much as* others in my own league thought he did.

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12 was good, yeah. I took 3rd in that league that year and he was a big part.

13 - he killed me over the middle of the season (from a WR1 perspective). Had a good finish, but I was doomed by then. My WR1 disappeared for weeks.

14 - here are some games from that year: 4/55 - 3/44/1 - 4/63 - 3/30/1 - 2/15/1 - 4/73 - 6/82. He had a couple of really dominant games that year, 10/103/1, 6/158/2, and a brilliant 6/114/3 in week 15. But those 7 weeks aren't what I need from my WR1. So yeah, even that 14 season, lead the league in TDs...also, hard as it is to believe, wasn't as great of a help as people thought. I guess I want my WR1 to be more consistent. His scoring comes in bunches.

 

So saying not top 10 wasn't accurate from his irl stats. But in 13 and 14, there were guys I would have rather had.

 

Again, he's still good, I'm not saying he's Reuben Randle :) Just that he hasn't helped me in all those years *as much as* others in my own league thought he did.

 

I know the feeling. I owned AJ Green last year. He's good for a 200+ yard week once or twice a year, but he's also good for a bunch of 3 or 4 catch weeks for 40 - 70 yards. In week 15, playing to go to the championship, he put up 1 catch for 37 yards.

 

AB, Julio, OBJ, and Marshall were probably the most consistent studs last year.

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I know the feeling. I owned AJ Green last year. He's good for a 200+ yard week once or twice a year, but he's also good for a bunch of 3 or 4 catch weeks for 40 - 70 yards. In week 15, playing to go to the championship, he put up 1 catch for 37 yards.

 

AB, Julio, OBJ, and Marshall were probably the most consistent studs last year.

 

Hopkins was right there with them. 4 dud games all year, imo.

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I don't know who you guys are playing that are that stupid to trade away players after week 1 especially guys they drafted early but my God you are playing with some of the dumbest mother fockers out there

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I know the feeling. I owned AJ Green last year. He's good for a 200+ yard week once or twice a year, but he's also good for a bunch of 3 or 4 catch weeks for 40 - 70 yards. In week 15, playing to go to the championship, he put up 1 catch for 37 yards.

 

AB, Julio, OBJ, and Marshall were probably the most consistent studs last year.

I really think this year is different for Green. Trust me going into the offseason I had already written him off as too inconsistent for my taste. After thinking about it a lot though, who else is Dalton throwing to, especially with Eifert gone? Did you see what Green did to Revis. Green looked fantastic. If Dalton wants any shot at running a good offense this year he better abuse Green. The other options on the team don't come close to the level of talent Green has. Last year Sanu, Jones, and Eifert gave the offense a much more diverse talent pool for Dalton to choose from.

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I really think this year is different for Green. Trust me going into the offseason I had already written him off as too inconsistent for my taste. After thinking about it a lot though, who else is Dalton throwing to, especially with Eifert gone? Did you see what Green did to Revis. Green looked fantastic. If Dalton wants any shot at running a good offense this year he better abuse Green. The other options on the team don't come close to the level of talent Green has. Last year Sanu, Jones, and Eifert gave the offense a much more diverse talent pool for Dalton to choose from.

I think AJ is a stud WR and I had him ranked as WR5, but I don't look at a drop in surrounding talent as being a positive for him. I see that as an overall drop in output from the Bengals offense. I also don't think Dalton is a stud QB, so he's not going to elevate the players around him like the stud QB's seem to do.

 

Again, I still would have drafted AJ and been happy. I just don't see this as being a "special" year. I've been wrong lots of times before...

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I think AJ is a stud WR and I had him ranked as WR5, but I don't look at a drop in surrounding talent as being a positive for him. I see that as an overall drop in output from the Bengals offense. I also don't think Dalton is a stud QB, so he's not going to elevate the players around him like the stud QB's seem to do.

 

Again, I still would have drafted AJ and been happy. I just don't see this as being a "special" year. I've been wrong lots of times before...

 

Agreed. Green did look great against Revis. But that's the problem ('problem' with a stud WR, haha). It's never been a lack of 'one huge game' for him. It's the 3 points the next week.

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I think AJ is a stud WR and I had him ranked as WR5, but I don't look at a drop in surrounding talent as being a positive for him. I see that as an overall drop in output from the Bengals offense. I also don't think Dalton is a stud QB, so he's not going to elevate the players around him like the stud QB's seem to do.

 

Again, I still would have drafted AJ and been happy. I just don't see this as being a "special" year. I've been wrong lots of times before...

Ok I am calling crap on the Dalton comment. He's not Aaron Rodgers, but he doesn't need to be to make his receivers good or even great. I think Dalton proved last year he is a good qb in this league. I still don't get the Dalton hate at all.

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Dalton was the 6th best qb in my league last year FP per game. I heard new OC likes to feed the X. AJ green could be looking at a year like Julio last year. Plus he has a pretty easy schedule.

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Ok I am calling crap on the Dalton comment. He's not Aaron Rodgers, but he doesn't need to be to make his receivers good or even great. I think Dalton proved last year he is a good qb in this league. I still don't get the Dalton hate at all.

 

Call crap all you want. I didn't say he's bad. He's thrown 30+ td's 1 time in his career. He's thrown for 4,000+ yards 1 time in his career. 3,500 yards and 25 td passes per year is good IMO.

 

I didn't, and still don't, see any signs pointing to him having a career year this year.

 

AJ should have a fine year, but I don't see something special like 1,800 yards and 16 tds. If I did, I would have ranked him WR #2.

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Call crap all you want. I didn't say he's bad. He's thrown 30+ td's 1 time in his career. He's thrown for 4,000+ yards 1 time in his career. 3,500 yards and 25 td passes per year is good IMO.

 

I didn't, and still don't, see any signs pointing to him having a career year this year.

 

AJ should have a fine year, but I don't see something special like 1,800 yards and 16 tds. If I did, I would have ranked him WR #2.

That's not good anymore. 3500 25 was good a few years ago but simply doesn't cut it anymore. 3800 30 is the new standard for Qb you want to be starting.

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