Is Mahomes in the 5th to early?

[phins1921 10]

I am honestly thinking about running with him as my main quarterback. I feel like the potential is there to be very very good with the weapons he has. I know the schedule is very brutal in the beginning but I see a lot of potential in this kid and sometimes as some of you have said that you got to take a chance and just go for it. Just asking everybody's opinion

[tanatastic 2,061]

Yes its too early. You are still picking crucial starters in rnd 5. You can still get Mahomes a few rounds later at least if you must reach. He went rnd 10 to a guy who was pretty high on him last night. Id say 8 is an acceptable reach.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

There are not many people who value him that highly. There are so many qbs this year who will be drafted before him. Wait on him. Even if you don't get him there will be someone with close to his upside like Jimmy or Goff

[American Chewy 98]

He went in 10th rnd in our league here in kc in a league that typically takes qbs early.

[Ehlana 25]

^{Mahomes in the 5th in a 1 QB, 12 team league, is way too early.}

[scottsind 61]

I am honestly thinking about running with him as my main quarterback. I feel like the potential is there to be very very good with the weapons he has. I know the schedule is very brutal in the beginning but I see a lot of potential in this kid and sometimes as some of you have said that you got to take a chance and just go for it. Just asking everybody's opinion

I think you could roll with him as our main QB but you can get him in double digit rounds. Unless he has a Watson like season with out being injured that is the only way he lives up to a 5th round selection. The difference between total points at the end of the season fluctuates much more between WRs and RBs, meaning you need to use that 5th round pick on those positions. In a 10 man league you could even stream QBs if you wanted with what is on the waiver wire.

[Phil Simms 11 127]

I just did a mock, I took him in the 10th round of a 12 team draft.

 

If you really want to make sure, get him in the 8th.

[kilroy69 994]

I am a believer in mahomes this year. If he can drop one or 2 long bombs a week to hill i am going to dominate fools.

[Bills04 45]

Uh, you realize he's played in O-N-E NFL game, right??

[Smileseers 54]

Uh, you realize he's played in O-N-E NFL game, right??

You either play fantasy football with foresight or hindsight.

[weepaws 2,459]

5 th round is to early for any Qb.

 

Sorry that’s the way I roll.

[cmh6476 751]

My son (11 years old) drafted in his first live draft with friends yesterday and a bunch of 10-13 yr olds in a KC market and the dude went in the 10th round of a 12-man league. And that's after Michael Crabtree went as the second overall pick and some guy named Davis who is a RB for Seattle went in the second round

[TBayXXXVII 2,116]

I am honestly thinking about running with him as my main quarterback. I feel like the potential is there to be very very good with the weapons he has. I know the schedule is very brutal in the beginning but I see a lot of potential in this kid and sometimes as some of you have said that you got to take a chance and just go for it. Just asking everybody's opinion

 

Yes

[tanatastic 2,061]

My son (11 years old) drafted in his first live draft with friends yesterday and a bunch of 10-13 yr olds in a KC market and the dude went in the 10th round of a 12-man league. And that's after Michael Crabtree went as the second overall pick and some guy named Davis who is a RB for Seattle went in the second round

Thismoverloads my cringe muscles in the face. I know they are kids but I still see grown men with 15yrs experience who don’t understand draft concepts still.

[Canadianfan 76]

Mahomes before the 10th is a big fat no.

[Skinny_Bastard 154]

Why take Mahomes in the 5th when you can get 4,500 and 29TD from Rivers in the 9th-11th?

[Mullog 12]

This thread is sort of like another one I saw today: http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=479486

 

See reply #1 in which the OP figured it all out and you too will have the answer you seek.

[hotgumbo1 12]

You know who you should take in the 5th?

The Garoppolo cuz Marquise Goodwin is gonna outplay Tyreek Hill in 2018.

Championship.

[tanatastic 2,061]

You know who you should take in the 5th?

The Garoppolo cuz Marquise Goodwin is gonna outplay Tyreek Hill in 2018.

Championship.

Even if a magic genie told me Garoppolo would have the best year in FF history I still wouldn’t take him in the 5th. That’s just not how you draft efficiently.

[hotgumbo1 12]

Even if a magic genie told me Garoppolo would have the best year in FF history I still wouldn’t take him in the 5th. That’s just not how you draft efficiently.

Settle down Francis.

I was kidding.

[seafoam1 1,879]

No QB is worth a 5th unless you are in a 2 QB league. And I like Mahomes, but I ended up with Garoppolo and Wentz and I am cool with that.

[Vikings4ever 496]

Uh, you realize he's played in O-N-E NFL game, right??

And Saquon Barkley has played in N-O NFL games.

[seafoam1 1,879]

And Saquon Barkley has planed in N-O NFL games.

I tried saying this to others here, they won't acknowledge that fact.

[Mr Neil 63]

Any QB taken in first 5 rounds is a mistake. Theres so much depth at QB in a onesie position theres no reason to take one that early. Take Mariota in the 11th

[Quickolas1 80]

People who ask these kind of questions must be brand new to FF?

 

Just look at the projected points of Mahomes (aggressive here) vs Keenum - Dalton - Tannehill.

You don't like these projections? Then find another set. QB projections are very close everywhere.

 

http://www.fftoday.com/rankings/playerproj.php?&PosID=10

[We Tigers 71]

I will zig while everyone else is zagging and say maybe...IF your league really, really values QBs. Think about it more in terms of how many QBs are taken than a specific round.

 

I think you would be hard pressed to find many leagues where Mahomes is going in the top 10 QBs. So, if hes your guy, take him once 10 are off the board and no sooner. I think approaching it this way would save you several rounds of value in most leagues.

 

A guy in my main league did this with Wentz last year. Wentz was his guy, but he didnt reach for him. He waited, for him as QB12, and his pick helped him win the league.

[crackills 19]

You really want to prove a point.. while all the idiots are drafting Bells and Zekes.. you take Mahomes in the 1st.. that'll show em! You can then start a run on QBs and have great RBs and Wrs available in round 5+

[polecatt 402]

The 5th?

That's where you would get a good QB

Not that Mahomes is not going to be good but he's not Aaron Rodgers good

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Never covet in FF. He should be a 9/10 rounder in a 12 teamer.

[TheShoe1010 1]

Unless it's a 6 point TD league or a 2QB league, there's no reason to select a QB that early. Even if you're right about him, you're drafting his ceiling. The margin of error on that pick is huge.

 

If you love him, round 8 should get the job done. I managed to grab him in the 10th of a 12 team league. I also think it's a really good idea to pair him with a high floor QB in the 10-12th. That should give you a QB pairing with limitless upside and a good weekly floor without investing much draft capital.

 

Examples: Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford, Alex Smith

[jrokh 568]

I don't think I would even take him that high in my superflex league.

[SpenceToons 70]

I picked Russell Wilson in the 5th last year and have no regrets about it. I didn't plan to. But the RB/WR candidates i had focused my interest on had just been snatched from beneath my feet and I didn't feel like wasting a pick on players I felt bleh about. I felt the situation called for taking a time out and selecting a QB or TE I really believed in and then getting back to my RB/WR plans in the rounds to come.

 

Someone suggested you could get Mariota in the 11th. As it turns out, Mariota stood at #101 in the ADP that was posted just before my draft and I selected Wilson just after pick #50. So for the purposes of this post, I conducted a little experiment and went back and identified 3-4 RBs and 3-4 WRs that were hovering around #50 in that ADP from last year and compared their subsequent performances to the 3-4 RBs & WRs that were hovering around #100. I also compared Russell Wilson's 2017 performance to Mariota's and two other QBs around #100, Cousins and Roethlisberger.

 

The difference in the PPR points-per-game average for the #50 RB group of Doug Martin - Ameeer Abdullah - LeGarrette Blount - C.J. Anderson compared to the #100 group of Matt Forte - Latavius Murray - Jonathan Stewart - Jaquizz Rodgers was only .95.

 

Tyreek Hill - Martavis Bryant - Michael Crabtree - Jarvis Landry from the #50 WR group fared a lot better than Jeremy Maclin - Eric Decker - Randall Cobb and Tyrell Williams from #100 with a points-per-game superiority of 4.84. (i couldn't include Davante Adams in the #50 group because I had just selected him a few picks before Wilson.)

 

But Russell Wilson did best of all with a 6.70 advantage over Mariota, Cousins, and Roethlisberger.

 

So reality will sometimes slip outside the confines of the generally good and standard advice offered up in this thread.

 

In fact, I join in with the counsel to discourage you from picking Mahomes so early but would not go so far as to proclaim that it's always a mistake to select a QB in the 5th. Allow some room for flexibility if you feel the situation calls for it

[gpann101 32]

Took him in the 5th..

1-Zeke

2-Mixon

3-Hill

4-Gordon420

5-Mahomes

 

Had to wait two rounds before next pick and would have kicked myself if he didn't come back to me

[TimmySmith 2,782]

In fact, I join in with the counsel to discourage you from picking Mahomes so early but would not go so far as to proclaim that it's always a mistake to select a QB in the 5th. Allow some room for flexibility if you feel the situation calls for it

Assuming this is a redraft league, a proven veteran multi tool QB is a far cry from a 1st year pocket guy. Picking Mahomes in the 5th will almost certainly not make your season, but it could blow it. He would literally have to be the best QB in the league to make that pick worth it.

[Canadianfan 76]

Amateur move

[ICEMAN 38]

I was unaware that the Russian troll farms had infiltrated FFToday in order to negatively affect fantasy football drafts! Mahomes in the fifth? Put down whatever it is that you started huffing from under the sink in your parents bathroom. He'll be lucky to be drafted in my main money league.

ICEMAN

[thePRO 78]

Yea don't do that. I got a great deal in getting Cousins in the 6th round and Mahomes in the 11th.

[jgcrawfish 232]

Took him in the 5th..

1-Zeke

2-Mixon

3-Hill

4-Gordon420

5-Mahomes

 

Had to wait two rounds before next pick and would have kicked myself if he didn't come back to me

How can you be so obtuse?

[TennisMenace 156]

I am honestly thinking about running with him as my main quarterback. I feel like the potential is there to be very very good with the weapons he has. I know the schedule is very brutal in the beginning but I see a lot of potential in this kid and sometimes as some of you have said that you got to take a chance and just go for it. Just asking everybody's opinion

Wow....I definitely believe way too early. You could probably get him in round 10

 

In the 5th round you can get Cam or Brees and possibly Brady or Wilson.

[Byrdman5 104]

Just drafted Mahomes as my starter at 12 and was my last position pick 13,14 were d and kicker.