Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted September 13, 2018 I would never take any advice from NFL network, which is amazing how horrible they are since these guys get paid tons of money. Two of their recommended must start players for week 2, Todd Gurley and Tyreek Hill. What's the point in even having a fantasy show if their big advice is to tell us to start the best guys at their position? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 567 Posted September 13, 2018 I could be wrong but that show is targeted to a wider, bigger audience, not more advanced players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted September 13, 2018 I could be wrong but that show is targeted to a wider, bigger audience, not more advanced players. I can't buy that. There is enough info out there that even the average fantasy owner isn't being helped one bit being told to start the two top guys at their position Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,865 Posted September 13, 2018 I think the NFL XM radio show is the best pure NFL talk there is.They have ex scouts, owners, GMs, players, coaches, as their hosts at different times of the day. And they actually talk about the NFL game and management of it. They don't care about and are not good at fantasy football. If you are talking the TV side, I don't really watch it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 567 Posted September 13, 2018 I'm not defending it, Adam Rank is occassionally amusing but I don't think I ever got good advice from its content. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted September 13, 2018 Breaking! Brotherbock's list of must-start QBs! If you're playing fantasy football, you need to have one of these guys on your roster and in the game this week! If you don't have one of them at least, go get one now! Bradford Ryan Flacco Allen Newton Trubisky Dalton Taylor Prescott Keenum Stafford Rodgers (risk!) Watson Luck Bortles Mahomes Rivers Goff Tannehill Cousins Brady Brees Manning Darnold Carr Foles Roethlisberger Garoppolo Wilson Fitzpatrick Mariota (risk!) Smith 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted September 13, 2018 I play in a work buddy's league on NFL.com, he lost one a few years back and I was supposed to be a fill in. It's a complete joke. 9 guys in the league go off of NFL rankings and I clean up every year. Their rankings are horrible, and that's being quite forgiving. I liked Fabiano when he used to work for CBS Fantasty but it seems like he's mailing it in over there...or monkeys are filling out the other expert rankings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,418 Posted September 13, 2018 Breaking! Brotherbock's list of must-start QBs! If you're playing fantasy football, you need to have one of these guys on your roster and in the game this week! If you don't have one of them at least, go get one now! Bradford Ryan Flacco Allen Newton Trubisky Dalton Taylor Prescott Keenum Stafford Rodgers (risk!) Watson Luck Bortles Mahomes Rivers Goff Tannehill Cousins Brady Brees Manning Darnold Carr Foles Roethlisberger Garoppolo Wilson Fitzpatrick Mariota (risk!) Smith Lol great list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gitrdun 16 Posted September 13, 2018 I would never take any advice from NFL network, which is amazing how horrible they are since these guys get paid tons of money. Two of their recommended must start players for week 2, Todd Gurley and Tyreek Hill. What's the point in even having a fantasy show if their big advice is to tell us to start the best guys at their position? I agree. They will tell you a "good start" or " Start em" but I wish they tell you who they would start that player over and then be accountable the next week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,050 Posted September 13, 2018 Lol great list. Agreed! He tapped into his extensive "source in the locker room says" rolodex and went out on a limb and recommends Allen over Peterman! Ballsy move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SexyRexy 60 Posted September 14, 2018 I would never take any advice from NFL network, which is amazing how horrible they are since these guys get paid tons of money. Two of their recommended must start players for week 2, Todd Gurley and Tyreek Hill. What's the point in even having a fantasy show if their big advice is to tell us to start the best guys at their position? I watched that also, and to be fair, it wasn't a 'must start' segment like you're describing, as intended to be some less than obvious guy you've gotta play. they were calling out lock's of the week. guys that we clearly know are good, who will not bust this week. that was the purpose of the segment. because even elite players can bust. so they were calling out their players who are bust proof this week. was it a little amateurish? sure I guess, but it wasn't what youre making it out to be. not in a must start fashion you are describing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted September 14, 2018 I watched that also, and to be fair, it wasn't a 'must start' segment like you're describing, as intended to be some less than obvious guy you've gotta play. they were calling out lock's of the week. guys that we clearly know are good, who will not bust this week. that was the purpose of the segment. because even elite players can bust. so they were calling out their players who are bust proof this week. was it a little amateurish? sure I guess, but it wasn't what youre making it out to be. not in a must start fashion you are describing. I'm pretty sure the segment was called Must start. Even if it was as you describe, starting Gurley and Hill aren't the most obvious things there are in fantasy football? There was some more dumb shlt that happened after that. Other flex calls that should be someone's #1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dcgangstas 41 Posted September 14, 2018 I would never take any advice from NFL network, which is amazing how horrible they are since these guys get paid tons of money. Two of their recommended must start players for week 2, Todd Gurley and Tyreek Hill. What's the point in even having a fantasy show if their big advice is to tell us to start the best guys at their position? I'm with you on this one, Frozen. I never listen to those guys. They spend too much time yucking it up, and play Captain Obvious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SexyRexy 60 Posted September 14, 2018 I'm pretty sure the segment was called Must start. Even if it was as you describe, starting Gurley and Hill aren't the most obvious things there are in fantasy football? There was some more dumb shlt that happened after that. Other flex calls that should be someone's #1 Idk. Not everyone is a fantasy freak registered on a message board of a website. They are also appealing to the very casual player. For real info I goto Fantasy Footballers podcast, or other shows I can find on YT, as well as this site. I don't expect any gems from NFL Fantasy Live, just entertainment mostly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SexyRexy 60 Posted September 14, 2018 I'm with you on this one, Frozen. I never listen to those guys. They spend too much time yucking it up, and play Captain Obvious. I am actually ironically a big fan of the show, I like watching it to see my players show up. But I truly watch it for entertainment, I never use their advice. Although sometimes Akbhar will have some good stuff like the It's a Trap Segment, or his deep flier segment is decent. But the rest is the equivalent to a sitcom to me. Also, that helped noone is funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maulers1973 117 Posted September 14, 2018 NFL Network is a joke and Espn is only a little bit better. My sources for FF information are here, Pro Football Focus and Rotogrinders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted September 14, 2018 Idk. Not everyone is a fantasy freak registered on a message board of a website. They are also appealing to the very casual player. For real info I goto Fantasy Footballers podcast, or other shows I can find on YT, as well as this site. I don't expect any gems from NFL Fantasy Live, just entertainment mostly. I dont get this argument at all. Even if they are appealing to the simpletons like you think, it still doesn't help anyone to suggest the top fantasy players should be started. Actual good fantasy advice appeals to everyone. Your argument basically states that actual good fantasy advice only appeals to seasoned players. That makes no fvcking sense at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maulers1973 117 Posted September 14, 2018 I think his point is that they are mostly about entertainment, chemistry and gaining viewers. They probably know that the die hard ff guys will go elsewhere for in depth insights. They don't NEED to be good with FF analysis. They need to generate viewers by being goofy, funny or some other form of entertaining. At least, I see that as their approach. I think it's lame, but that's just me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted September 14, 2018 I think his point is that they are mostly about entertainment, chemistry and gaining viewers. They probably know that the die hard ff guys will go elsewhere for in depth insights. They don't NEED to be good with FF analysis. They need to generate viewers by being goofy, funny or some other form of entertaining. At least, I see that as their approach. I think it's lame, but that's just me. Is that how stupid the average ffball player is? They watch a show about ffball, not because of the content, but because the people on it act goofy? Amazing that giving bad advice and acting like an idiot is considered more important than giving actual fantasy advice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maulers1973 117 Posted September 14, 2018 Is that how stupid the average ffball player is? They watch a show about ffball, not because of the content, but because the people on it act goofy? Amazing that giving bad advice and acting like an idiot is considered more important than giving actual fantasy advice A lot of the guys on NFL Network are former players. So, I think a lot of their vewership is average Joe's wanting to see their personality and such. Again, I think it's lame, but that's jmo. I obviously don't run the network. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quickolas1 80 Posted September 14, 2018 They're all geared toward 10 team leagues. Which is novice level unless a 10 teamer starts 2 QB, several extra Flex's, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotica 5 Posted September 14, 2018 Breaking! Brotherbock's list of must-start QBs! If you're playing fantasy football, you need to have one of these guys on your roster and in the game this week! If you don't have one of them at least, go get one now! Bradford Ryan Flacco Allen Newton Trubisky Dalton Taylor Prescott Keenum Stafford Rodgers (risk!) Watson Luck Bortles Mahomes Rivers Goff Tannehill Cousins Brady Brees Manning Darnold Carr Foles Roethlisberger Garoppolo Wilson Fitzpatrick Mariota (risk!) Smith Excellent!!! I have Mahomes!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted September 14, 2018 The entire Network has gone downhill. The fantasy show seems to have adopted the GMFB style. Which is a crime against humanity. Unwatchable screaming and idiocy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drizzay 638 Posted September 14, 2018 It's not Matthew Berry and Hasselbeck bad, but it's still bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites