Anything about the guy in Dallas shot dead in his own apartment by a cop?

[Strike 3,957]

Sentenced to 10 years.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,626]

1 hour ago, peenie said:

Hold it!! I discussed that topic but I probably deleted the thread. I recall mentioning that the only time you get a conviction, just like in this case, is when a minority is the police officer. Black cop = conviction, Woman cop = conviction, Asian cop = conviction, Muslim cop = conviction.

 

Peenie, you ignorant slut. Many white cops have been convicted. Stop lying.  

[Hawkeye21 1,852]

29 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Peenie, you ignorant slut. Many white cops have been convicted. Stop lying.  

Dwight, you ignorant slut. Love that line from the office. 

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

35 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Dwight, you ignorant slut. Love that line from the office. 

Goes back to SNL with Dan Aykroyd and Jane Curtin. “Jane, you ignorant slut”

[Hawkeye21 1,852]

13 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

Goes back to SNL with Dan Aykroyd and Jane Curtin. “Jane, you ignorant slut”

Oh man, you’re right! I completely forgot about that. I was just a kid when I watched that. Those were the good days of SNL. 

[cbfalcon 824]

I think this result is about the best case scenario.

I believe I read she could have gotten 2-20 years for manslaughter...or 5-99 years for murder.

In my novice legal opinion, she was Extremely guilty of manslaughter, and on the manslaughter scale she deserved the full 20 years. But on the murder scale, she deserved a light sentence. 
 

The public gets their guilty of murder verdict, and she gets less years. Win/win.

 

[RLLD 3,455]

7 minutes ago, cbfalcon said:

I think this result is about the best case scenario.

I believe I read she could have gotten 2-20 years for manslaughter...or 5-99 years for murder.

In my novice legal opinion, she was Extremely guilty of manslaughter, and on the manslaughter scale she deserved the full 20 years. But on the murder scale, she deserved a light sentence. 
 

The public gets their guilty of murder verdict, and she gets less years. Win/win.

 

[Herbivore 905]

4 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Ignorance is in your court here my friend.  No one, on that you posted, even followed that other case.  In this case however, there were many.  I proved to you the national coverage as well.  Feel free to google it yourself, but I gave you the statistics.  Both cases were solved within 5 months of each other, but yet, on Botham Jeans case, multiple main stream media outlets have links on page 1, a total of 5.  In 10 pages of Diamond's case, it took 6 pages for 5 links to come up.

 

I proved my point... so move on.

 

To note, the officer who killed Diamond, got a slap on the wrist... five years of probation and 800 hours of community service.  Guyger got 10 years.

could you write down the differences in these cases?

[TimmySmith 2,782]

I must say that if you throw out the posts from falcon, wiff and straw, this was a pretty good thread. Little flaming and much information. Those tards tried to make it partisan but there was only minor bait taken.

[Bert 1,091]

Looks like everyone gets to hug her.  Cruzer are you in line?

[Cruzer 1,992]

8 minutes ago, Bert said:

Looks like everyone gets to hug her.  Cruzer are you in line?

I wouldn't have been able to resist grabbing her ass too.

 

[Strike 3,957]

2 minutes ago, Cruzer said:

I wouldn't have been able to resist grabbing her ass too.

 

I have it on good authority that chicks like it when you grab them in the poosey too!!

[Cruzer 1,992]

12 hours ago, cbfalcon said:

I think this result is about the best case scenario.

I believe I read she could have gotten 2-20 years for manslaughter...or 5-99 years for murder.

In my novice legal opinion, she was Extremely guilty of manslaughter, and on the manslaughter scale she deserved the full 20 years. But on the murder scale, she deserved a light sentence. 
 

The public gets their guilty of murder verdict, and she gets less years. Win/win.

 

Agreed - although I was shocked by a few things still:

* Not only did they convict her of the more serious charge, but they did rather quick - decisively. Why go to the trouble to do that if all you were going to give her was (basically) a slap on the wrist? Had she gotten manslaughter and 20 - would there still be protests bcoz she didn't actually get murder?

* Have we ever seen a Judge cry, then hug the convicted defendant?

* Yesterday was the 1st time I actually saw/felt/believed she was sorry for killing that man.

* Blacks were marching the streets and calling Botham's brother a sellout............ Unbelievable.

[Cruzer 1,992]

4 minutes ago, Strike said:

I have it on good authority that chicks like it when you grab them in the poosey too!!

It just might have been worth a night in jail.

 

[IGotWorms 3,310]

28 minutes ago, Cruzer said:

Agreed - although I was shocked by a few things still:

* Not only did they convict her of the more serious charge, but they did rather quick - decisively. Why go to the trouble to do that if all you were going to give her was (basically) a slap on the wrist? Had she gotten manslaughter and 20 - would there still be protests bcoz she didn't actually get murder?

* Have we ever seen a Judge cry, then hug the convicted defendant?

* Yesterday was the 1st time I actually saw/felt/believed she was sorry for killing that man.

* Blacks were marching the streets and calling Botham's brother a sellout............ Unbelievable.

I really wish these judges would conduct themselves more judiciously. Seems to be a disturbing trend, at least in these big media cases 

[Strike 3,957]

16 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I really wish these judges would conduct themselves more judiciously. Seems to be a disturbing trend, at least in these big media cases 

Not sure what you mean.  I watched a decent amount of this trial and thought the judge was fine.  The trial was over when she went down and hugged the defendant.  I think we can all agree this was a tragic incident and, while the defendant has to be held accountable, it's a sad result and the judge obviously felt a lot of compassion.  I have no issue with that.

[Strike 3,957]

On 10/3/2019 at 8:44 AM, IGotWorms said:

I really wish these judges would conduct themselves more judiciously. Seems to be a disturbing trend, at least in these big media cases 

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/2019/10/04/judge-ex-cop-guygers-case-displayed-right-balance-professionalism-mercy-after-trial/

[peenie 1,690]

The judge hugged her, the bailiff stroked her hair, the father said he wanted to be her friend, the brother hugged her...

I didn't hear the trial so perhaps I missed something. BUT this is similar to the white boy that shot up the black people in the church. The survivors or family of the survivors all forgave him.

Respectability politics in full force.

[vuduchile 1,941]

1 hour ago, peenie said:

The judge hugged her, the bailiff stroked her hair, the father said he wanted to be her friend, the brother hugged her...

I didn't hear the trial so perhaps I missed something. BUT this is similar to the white boy that shot up the black people in the church. The survivors or family of the survivors all forgave him.

Respectability politics in full force.

Forgiveness is more powerful than vengefulness IMO. 

[peenie 1,690]

9 hours ago, vuduchile said:

Forgiveness is more powerful than vengefulness IMO. 

I can't recall any white judge and bailiff comforting a black criminal. Heck, hugs and apologies don't even come when someone was wrongly accused. 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,626]

53 minutes ago, peenie said:

I can't recall any white judge and bailiff comforting a black criminal. Heck, hugs and apologies don't even come when someone was wrongly accused. 

Can you recall a white judge going easy on a black defendant and letting them off easy? That shite happens all the time and has been for along time. Pretend that doesn't exist and concentrate on this one instance.  

[Strike 3,957]

2 hours ago, peenie said:

I can't recall any white judge and bailiff comforting a black criminal. Heck, hugs and apologies don't even come when someone was wrongly accused. 

Why is everything black and white with you?  Why can't she just be a compassionate judge regardless of race?  Fock it gets tiring reading your posts

[vuduchile 1,941]

3 hours ago, peenie said:

I can't recall any white judge and bailiff comforting a black criminal. Heck, hugs and apologies don't even come when someone was wrongly accused. 

Wow.  This is your takeaway from this whole ordeal?   Very sad

[IGotWorms 3,310]

I’m not gonna get into race but suffice to say it’s unusual for a judge to hug a convicted murderer 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

5 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I’m not gonna get into race but suffice to say it’s unusual for a judge to hug a convicted murderer 

Women should be off the bench. Except of course for Judge Judy.

[peenie 1,690]

11 minutes ago, vuduchile said:

Wow.  This is your takeaway from this whole ordeal?   Very sad

I didn't say that was my takeaway from this whole ordeal. Have you not read the past pages??? I made comment on someone's comment that the judge wasn't acting properly and I was simply agreeing. You all must love me because you only see and comment on my posts even though I'm responding to a comment. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

2 minutes ago, peenie said:

I didn't say that was my takeaway from this whole ordeal. Have you not read the past pages??? I made comment on someone's comment that the judge wasn't acting properly and I was simply agreeing. You all must love me because you only see and comment on my posts even though I'm responding to a comment. 

I think that hug would make a great porn scene. 

[vuduchile 1,941]

2 hours ago, peenie said:

I didn't say that was my takeaway from this whole ordeal. Have you not read the past pages??? I made comment on someone's comment that the judge wasn't acting properly and I was simply agreeing. You all must love me because you only see and comment on my posts even though I'm responding to a comment. 

You implied that black people are sympathetic to whites who’ve broken the law but whites don’t give a fock about black criminals. 

That’s as racist as it gets.   And that to me is sad. 

[Intense Observer 344]

One of the neighbors and witnesses who testified in the trial was shot to death Friday night. 

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/neighbor-of-botham-jean-who-testified-against-amber-guyger-reportedly-shot-and-killed-in-dallas/

 

[Mark Davis 162]

58 minutes ago, Intense Observer said:

One of the neighbors and witnesses who testified in the trial was shot to death Friday night. 

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/neighbor-of-botham-jean-who-testified-against-amber-guyger-reportedly-shot-and-killed-in-dallas/

 

Waiting on the FBG horde to find a way to tie it to Trump

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

9 hours ago, Mark Davis said:

Waiting on the FBG horde to find a way to tie it to Trump

Don't really need anything to go off of. Just say it's Trumps fault and move on. 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

On 10/3/2019 at 7:31 AM, cbfalcon said:

I think this result is about the best case scenario.

I believe I read she could have gotten 2-20 years for manslaughter...or 5-99 years for murder.

In my novice legal opinion, she was Extremely guilty of manslaughter, and on the manslaughter scale she deserved the full 20 years. But on the murder scale, she deserved a light sentence. 
 

The public gets their guilty of murder verdict, and she gets less years. Win/win.

 

Except that ten years doesn't mean ten years. It means five with good behavior or some sh!t. Personally, I don't think that's enough for walking into a man's home and gunning him down.

But as a high profile former cop, she won't enjoy prison.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,626]

1 hour ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Except that ten years doesn't mean ten years. It means five with good behavior or some sh!t. Personally, I don't think that's enough for walking into a man's home and gunning him down.

But as a high profile former cop, she won't enjoy prison.

She'll be fine in prison.  But for the fact she's in prison. Women's prison at that. When is the last time you heard of a cop getting focked up in prison? 

[cbfalcon 824]

50 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

She'll be fine in prison.  But for the fact she's in prison. Women's prison at that. When is the last time you heard of a cop getting focked up in prison? 

When was the last time we heard of a cop even going to prison?

 

[cbfalcon 824]

2 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Except that ten years doesn't mean ten years. It means five with good behavior or some sh!t. Personally, I don't think that's enough for walking into a man's home and gunning him down.

But as a high profile former cop, she won't enjoy prison.

Yeah, I wasn’t considering that. I feel serving 10 years is in the right range for what she did. 5 isn’t nearly enough. 

But I still think the result was about the best case scenario in terms of what could be accomplished last week. Everyone is kinda happy and nobody is outraged really. And that’s kind of the best case scenario in our current political environment.

[Reality 2,710]

2 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Except that ten years doesn't mean ten years. It means five with good behavior or some sh!t. Personally, I don't think that's enough for walking into a man's home and gunning him down.

But as a high profile former cop, she won't enjoy prison.

Completely agree.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

2 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Except that ten years doesn't mean ten years. It means five with good behavior or some sh!t. Personally, I don't think that's enough for walking into a man's home and gunning him down.

But as a high profile former cop, she won't enjoy prison.

Less than 5. 

[naomi 343]

300 residents of the apartment building were interviewed about ever going to the wrong unit mistaking it for their place. 47 said they had, and more residents on the 3rd and 4th floor (Guyger and Jean's) had that experience relative to others. Unfortunately Botham Jean's door was ajar due to a mechanical malfunction. Guyger testified she yelled at Jean to put his hands up. Jean understandably charges up off his couch towards the crazy person in his door/entry way, yelling "Hey, hey hey!" The exact timing for either of them with that I'm not sure of, but it sounds like it was a perfect twisted storm of factors. Guyger was returning home from a 13.5 hour shift. I understand a lenient sentence given these factors but try to consider how I would feel if the sexes were reversed, etc. Hopefully the same.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,626]

48 minutes ago, cbfalcon said:

When was the last time we heard of a cop even going to prison?

 

Well, you may not have. You haven't heard of a lot of things considering the sources you rely on. Mostly the truth.  

[Reality 2,710]

So, should we start taking bets on how much the owners of the apartment building get sued for by the deceased's family?