shotsup 832 Posted December 21, 2018 I can see this for me. Wife not working...im not happy....one kid in college...other is in 11th grade. Im not sure how much longer Im still in it. Its not fun. Exactly same situation and ages as well. She hasnt worked in 20 years. I am ready for her to get a damn job Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted December 21, 2018 Geezus, your wives don't have to work????? I don't know anyone that is a stay at home mom. God bless the way you were raised. It was our choice and my blessing for the early years (kids). Now they are 19 and 16 I have been pushing her for at least 3 years to get a job. Struggle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted December 21, 2018 My wife took about 12 years off to be with the kids. It took about 3 years longer than it should have, but I think she did not have the confidence that she could get back in. It has been about 5 years and she is working part time in her original profession. I think she is in a better place now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted December 21, 2018 My wife took about 12 years off to be with the kids. It took about 3 years longer than it should have, but I think she did not have the confidence that she could get back in It has been about 5 years and she is working part time in her original profession. I think she is in a better place now. Sounds the same. Actually she has a job interview tomorrow- something just popped up. Hopefully she gets it. I think she is finally ready. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted December 21, 2018 Sounds the same. Actually she has a job interview tomorrow- something just popped up. Hopefully she gets it. I think she is finally ready. If you are smart, you will support her and cheer her on. It will be worth it even if she doesnt get this job. Get her ass out of the house and making some dough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted December 21, 2018 If you are smart, you will support her and cheer her on. It will be worth it even if she doesnt get this job. Get her ass out of the house and making some dough. On it. Totally agree. This a call back from first interview so hoping for the best. Part time but baby steps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted December 21, 2018 On it. Totally agree. This a call back from first interview so hoping for the best. Part time but baby steps. Part time is fine. My year end bonus was more than my wife makes all year. I am totally fine with that. Better than zero. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted December 21, 2018 Part time is fine. My year end bonus was more than my wife makes all year. I am totally fine with that. Better than zero. Again. Exactly the same situation- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,100 Posted December 21, 2018 Part time is fine. My year end bonus was more than my wife makes all year. I am totally fine with that. Better than zero. Nice!!!! What are you going to do with that extra 400 dollars? Disneyland? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 21, 2018 Nice!!!! What are you going to do with that extra 400 dollars? Disneyland? I bet he opts to upgrade to synthetic on his next oil change for his 2002 lime green Honda Civic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted December 21, 2018 Nice!!!! What are you going to do with that extra 400 dollars? Disneyland? $400??? After taxes, it is like $143.76 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,400 Posted December 21, 2018 Sounds the same. Actually she has a job interview tomorrow- something just popped up. Hopefully she gets it. I think she is finally ready. What type of job? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,792 Posted December 21, 2018 My wife took about 12 years off to be with the kids. It took about 3 years longer than it should have, but I think she did not have the confidence that she could get back in. It has been about 5 years and she is working part time in her original profession. I think she is in a better place now. My wife had a similar situation; off for a decade plus or minus with the kids, and as an engineer who had worked in semiconductor fabs she felt technology had passed her by. She taught taekwondo in that time but that wasn't a high paying job, more of a hobby. She ended up getting into computer business analyst work; it is more along her interests anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trumpurethra 42 Posted December 21, 2018 Best decision I ever made, will never marry again. I will probably settle with a woman when I get older and retire. Sit on the porch, drink beer, watch the sunset and shoot the sh!t. Got to have someone to do that with eventually. But not yet. Right now I am enjoying myself immensely. My only regret is I didn't do it sooner. I had fears of not being around my kids enough, didn't want to be that 2 weekends a month dad, knew I'd miss my kids too much. As it turned out, my oldest moved in with me while she goes to school and my youngest is chompin at the bit to move in with me. Moms lame and I'm awesome. But she has a huge group of good friends and we don't want to rock that boat. I have never been closer to my oldest. She thinks my womanizing ways are gross. But we have an agreement. She doesn't judge me for that I don't judge her for being a millennial (too sensitive, attention span of a gnat, face always in a screen, take everything personally, etc, etc). So we get along great. To the guy above who says he is going to tough it out, don't do it. Don't stay in a loveless relationship. You will regret it immensely later on. Besides, it will fock your kids up more being around a toxic relationship. JMTC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted December 21, 2018 Is it really that tough to be monogamous? I ask this in all seriousness. Perhaps the marriage model is outdated? Or...perhaps we're asking men to be what they are not meant to be. Maybe the testosterone drives men to have multiple partners? I just find that cheating is such a big problem. Either we need to relax our views on monogamy or lessen the pressure to marry. I didn't want to be a single parent but I prefer it to a cheating husband. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kanil 520 Posted December 21, 2018 Is it really that tough to be monogamous? I ask this in all seriousness. Perhaps the marriage model is outdated? Or...perhaps we're asking men to be what they are not meant to be. Maybe the testosterone drives men to have multiple partners? I just find that cheating is such a big problem. Either we need to relax our views on monogamy or lessen the pressure to marry. I didn't want to be a single parent but I prefer it to a cheating husband. I think you're misunderstanding. It's not that people want to go bang all the randoms, it's that they don't want to put up with someone else's sh!t when they have enough sh!t of their own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,945 Posted December 21, 2018 Is it really that tough to be monogamous? I ask this in all seriousness. Perhaps the marriage model is outdated? Or...perhaps we're asking men to be what they are not meant to be. Maybe the testosterone drives men to have multiple partners? I just find that cheating is such a big problem. Either we need to relax our views on monogamy or lessen the pressure to marry. I didn't want to be a single parent but I prefer it to a cheating husband. Not hard at all. All these clowns saying its our nature are just spouting off a buncha antiquated macho horsesh!t to exuse their selfish behavior. Wanna sleep around? Great. More power to ya. But man up and divorce your wife before you do. Better yet, dont get married in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,538 Posted December 21, 2018 How did this thread devolve in to a discussion about men cheating? Point me to the posts where guys are saying it's our nature. Cause All I've seen are guys saying they're staying in an unhappy marriage for the kids. Don't remember any of them saying they're cheating. Also see some discussion about women becoming stay at home Mom's and then transitioning back in to the workforce. Nothing about their husband's cheating. I mean, other than Jerry's one nighter with TNG when they had a geek meet I don't think anyone has posted much about cheating on this bored ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 21, 2018 I love being single. And also love my GF of 6 years. I expect to spend the rest of my time with her. Never got married, never will, and had many 2-3+ years relationships in the past. Here's the key to a good relationship. Both people are capable of financially living well on their own. Neither person can complain about what the other spends because it is their own money. Don't worry about nitpicking finances, and focus on each other in life's ups and downs. Life is so much easier this way. Oh, and don't have kids if you can't freaking afford them or if it means sacrificing the relationship you have built up with your partner. Just my 2 common sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted December 21, 2018 How did this thread devolve in to a discussion about men cheating? Point me to the posts where guys are saying it's our nature. Cause All I've seen are guys saying they're staying in an unhappy marriage for the kids. Don't remember any of them saying they're cheating. Also see some discussion about women becoming stay at home Mom's and then transitioning back in to the workforce. Nothing about their husband's cheating. I mean, other than Jerry's one nighter with TNG when they had a geek meet I don't think anyone has posted much about cheating on this bored ever. I was asking a question. Feel free to ignore it. Now, if you are interested in why I asked the question or which post made me think to ask, pose your question to me differently and I'll answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted December 22, 2018 What type of job? Clerical in a middle school office. She wont know until mid January Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,400 Posted December 22, 2018 Clerical in a middle school office. She wont know until mid January Nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,086 Posted December 22, 2018 Is it really that tough to be monogamous? I ask this in all seriousness. Perhaps the marriage model is outdated? Or...perhaps we're asking men to be what they are not meant to be. Maybe the testosterone drives men to have multiple partners? I just find that cheating is such a big problem. Either we need to relax our views on monogamy or lessen the pressure to marry. I didn't want to be a single parent but I prefer it to a cheating husband. Is that a black thing? Been with my wife since 1989 and haven't cheated once. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted December 22, 2018 It would suck. I hate cooking, cleaning and doing laundry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted December 22, 2018 Is it really that tough to be monogamous? I ask this in all seriousness. Perhaps the marriage model is outdated? Or...perhaps we're asking men to be what they are not meant to be. Maybe the testosterone drives men to have multiple partners? I just find that cheating is such a big problem. Either we need to relax our views on monogamy or lessen the pressure to marry. I didn't want to be a single parent but I prefer it to a cheating husband. If you get two people who are serious about raising a family, it's not hard to be monogamous, no. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted December 22, 2018 I understand it is nice to be able to have your wife leave work for years and do womwn things at home. But is it needed? It is likenyou guys say ok wife be a bum but then now you are mad about it. I have no kids. But all my friends who do both parents work. None of them needed a nanny for years upon end when they pop a kid out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted December 22, 2018 I understand it is nice to be able to have your wife leave work for years and do womwn things at home. But is it needed? It is likenyou guys say ok wife be a bum but then now you are mad about it. I have no kids. But all my friends who do both parents work. None of them needed a nanny for years upon end when they pop a kid out. When the kids are small, someone has to take care of them. I had the income that we could raise a family on my income alone. I still want more kids but my wife wanted to get back in the work force and I got stuck at three. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted December 22, 2018 When the kids are small, someone has to take care of them. I had the income that we could raise a family on my income alone. I still want more kids but my wife wanted to get back in the work force and I got stuck at three. Totally understand. But when they are old enough to go to school for half of their waking day not to mention after school activities? Time for the woman to do somsthing. Few years is fine. But a lot of you act like your households cant survive without a stay at home mom washing the clothes in the creek. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,792 Posted December 22, 2018 When the kids are small, someone has to take care of them. I had the income that we could raise a family on my income alone. I still want more kids but my wife wanted to get back in the work force and I got stuck at three. Totally understand. But when they are old enough to go to school for half of their waking day not to mention after school activities? Time for the woman to do somsthing. Few years is fine. But a lot of you act like your households cant survive without a stay at home mom washing the clothes in the creek. My income was increasing so my wife worked 1/2 time when our first was born, then 0 when our second was born. We had three in total. She was never a big baby lover, tending to prefer the kids as they got older, so when the youngest was ready to start school she was eager to find a job. Then a funny thing happened. Just before school started my oldest got mono and had to stay home for the first 3 weeks of school. My wife darn near had a nervous breakdown, she was so emotionally ready for them all to be out of the house. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,987 Posted December 22, 2018 Totally understand. But when they are old enough to go to school for half of their waking day not to mention after school activities? Time for the woman to do somsthing. Few years is fine. But a lot of you act like your households cant survive without a stay at home mom washing the clothes in the creek. If you had kids, I think you would understand. My wife works part time, but Id prefer that she not work at all. Getting the kids ready in the morning, packing lunches, household chores, cooking, grocery shopping, all the random things throughout the year like Christmas shopping/Dr appointments/dentist appointments, and then sports and homework after school...I think it would make life a bit less stressful if my wife didnt work, but I dont push that. Its 100% her decision. If she didnt work and could take care of everything, it would allow for more quality family time. Also, there are a lot of days off during the year and kids get sick. It can be a bit of a PIA having to figuring out who can stay home with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted December 22, 2018 If you had kids, I think you would understand. My wife works part time, but Id prefer that she not work at all. Getting the kids ready in the morning, packing lunches, household chores, cooking, grocery shopping, all the random things throughout the year like Christmas shopping/Dr appointments/dentist appointments, and then sports and homework after school...I think it would make life a bit less stressful if my wife didnt work, but I dont push that. Its 100% her decision. If she didnt work and could take care of everything, it would allow for more quality family time. Also, there are a lot of days off during the year and kids get sick. It can be a bit of a PIA having to figuring out who can stay home with them. This is the exact reason we decided early on she would not work. She was there for all the above but now that they are 19 and 16 its time to work (part time) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted December 22, 2018 This is the exact reason we decided early on she would not work. She was there for all the above but now that they are 19 and 16 its time to work (part time) Exactly. It helps when she can take the kids to their activities and help out in those after school activities. Once they are driving, though, it really is time to get out there. I also think people forget that kids are in school about 180 days per year, not to mention half-days. It is preferable, if you can afford it, to have an engaged parent instead of latch-key kids and babysitters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,526 Posted December 22, 2018 Totally understand. But when they are old enough to go to school for half of their waking day not to mention after school activities? Time for the woman to do somsthing. Few years is fine. But a lot of you act like your households cant survive without a stay at home mom washing the clothes in the creek. Totally disagree. If you can't afford for one parent to stay home and raise your kids, you can't afford to have kids. Stop unleashing your spoiled, entitled, poorly behaved, unprepared little shitstains on society. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,423 Posted December 22, 2018 I work midnights now. I don't like it. But one of us is always home. It's what you do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted December 24, 2018 Getting the kids ready in the morning, packing lunches, household chores, cooking, grocery shopping, all the random things throughout the year like Christmas shopping/Dr appointments/dentist appointments, and then sports and homework after school...I think it would make life a bit less stressful if my wife didnt work, but I dont push that. Its 100% her decision. If she didnt work and could take care of everything, it would allow for more quality family time. Also, there are a lot of days off during the year and kids get sick. It can be a bit of a PIA having to figuring out who can stay home with them. Is there ever resentment for your wives taking care of all the household responsibilities? It's a lot in comparison to an outside job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted December 24, 2018 Totally disagree. If you can't afford for one parent to stay home and raise your kids, you can't afford to have kids. Stop unleashing your spoiled, entitled, poorly behaved, unprepared little shitstains on society. I think the spoiled ones come from having a mama around 24/7 to make them a pbandj sandwich whenever they want one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 519 Posted December 24, 2018 I just dont understand what a stay at home mom does all day once the kids are in school. I would assume 80% of their time would be watching TV. There just isnt that much laundry and cleaning to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted December 24, 2018 I just dont understand what a stay at home mom does all day once the kids are in school. I would assume 80% of their time would be watching TV. There just isnt that much laundry and cleaning to do. Exactly. Lazy wives is what I say. Also I dont see what is so latchkey about going to daycare or a babysitter after school when too young to be home alone. In kindergarden I would get off the bus with an older kid whos mother watched about 10 kids after school. We got off the bus and walked a block to her house each day after school. I was picked up by my parents an hour and a half later. Nothing latchkey about it. It was a consistant routine. Where is we have mama babies who come home from school and sit around with their mother each day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted December 24, 2018 Sux, it's almost 2019. Men count too. Wouldnt want him in a foxhole next to me though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted December 24, 2018 I just dont understand what a stay at home mom does all day once the kids are in school. I would assume 80% of their time would be watching TV. There just isnt that much laundry and cleaning to do. For the most part, they don't view work like men do. We typically get at it and get it done. They fiddle fock around, while doing laundry, talking on the phone, getting sidetracked, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites