drobeski 3,061 Posted February 7, 2019 Other than orange man bad! Killing newborn black babies, climate change motivated treasury pillaging, and sicko transweirdos being legally able to force their sickness on our kids? What else in in thier platform? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,639 Posted February 7, 2019 and yet you guys whine Every time there's a single story about POTUS effing up. STOP IT! TDS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted February 7, 2019 Dems...huhhh! What do they stand for? Wellaaabsolutely nuthin, huhhh! Say it again! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted February 7, 2019 The sad truth is it's hard to say. Environment. Equality. I agree with those things, but they go WAY too far on both. The sad thing to me is, much as I dislike trump as a person (policy wise I don't hate him as much as I thought I would) he is likely to be the best option in 2020. Which is focking sad. I've spent the last two weeks in hostels around Israel. Hanging around the bars, I've met many, mostly young, people. Many Americans, many not. They are all counting down until "trump is gone in 2020." They laugh at me when I say that right now, the smart money is on him being reelected. You think the meltdown last time was bad. This time will be worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted February 7, 2019 If only they had some form of published platform online that you could read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,124 Posted February 7, 2019 1 minute ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: The sad truth is it's hard to say. Environment. Equality. I agree with those things, but they go WAY too far on both. The sad thing to me is, much as I dislike trump as a person (policy wise I don't hate him as much as I thought I would) he is likely to be the best option in 2020. Which is focking sad. I've spent the last two weeks in hostels around Israel. Hanging around the bars, I've met many, mostly young, people. Many Americans, many not. They are all counting down until "trump is gone in 2020." They laugh at me when I say that right now, the smart money is on him being reelected. You think the meltdown last time was bad. This time will be worse. You know when I first voted Trump it was a fock you and I use to make a bunch of excuses for myself of why I voted for him. “Oh I know he doesn’t do _______ well”. Over the last 9 to 12 months I’ve grown very fond of him. He’s going to bat for true Americans and at this point people are just saying it to be edgy. He’s awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted February 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: The sad truth is it's hard to say. Environment. Equality. I agree with those things, but they go WAY too far on both. The sad thing to me is, much as I dislike trump as a person (policy wise I don't hate him as much as I thought I would) he is likely to be the best option in 2020. Which is focking sad. I've spent the last two weeks in hostels around Israel. Hanging around the bars, I've met many, mostly young, people. Many Americans, many not. They are all counting down until "trump is gone in 2020." They laugh at me when I say that right now, the smart money is on him being reelected. You think the meltdown last time was bad. This time will be worse. As long as they put a normal white guy out there, he will mop the floor with Trump. A woman, a minority, some kind of gimmick will fail miserably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,513 Posted February 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, MDC said: If only they had some form of published platform online that you could read. They do! You can find it right here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted February 7, 2019 1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said: You know when I first voted Trump it was a fock you and I use to make a bunch of excuses for myself of why I voted for him. “Oh I know he doesn’t do _______ well”. Over the last 9 to 12 months I’ve grown very fond of him. He’s going to bat for true Americans and at this point people are just saying it to be edgy. He’s awesome. I thought he'd be a disaster. He's ended up being ok. I'll rank it thusly... Things I love: playing tough with china. They are focking evil. Can't b!tch about the economy. No wars. Things I hate- his rhetoric vis a vis NATO, and just his demeanor in general. No healthcare fix I don't really give a crap about the wall either way. I'm for solving immigration. I have my doubts about the method. The tax cuts were usual republican corporate candy. Expected. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted February 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, tanatastic said: As long as they put a normal white guy out there, he will mop the floor with Trump. A woman, a minority, some kind of gimmick will fail miserably. And who is this normal white guy? I'm not seeing one in the lineup. Joe? Bernie? I don't see those flying. And for the record, I have zero problem with a female or minority candidate. I just want them to be a candidate who happens to be one of those things, not a shill for SJW horse crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,513 Posted February 7, 2019 Just now, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: I thought he'd be a disaster. He's ended up being ok. I'll rank it thusly... Things I love: playing tough with china. They are focking evil. Can't b!tch about the economy. No wars. Things I hate- his rhetoric vis a vis NATO, and just his demeanor in general. No healthcare fix I don't really give a crap about the wall either way. I'm for solving immigration. I have my doubts about the method. The tax cuts were usual republican corporate candy. Expected. I find myself agreeing with all of your points here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,957 Posted February 7, 2019 I suspect that if you asked 10 random Dem's you'd get 10 different responses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,484 Posted February 7, 2019 "There is no confusion about what we Democrats are against. The only disagreement is what we're for." - Neil Sroka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,626 Posted February 7, 2019 They stand for pointing the finger at the straight white male and blaming him, rich man or poor man, for the plight of all the freaks and minorities. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted February 7, 2019 1 minute ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: And who is this normal white guy? I'm not seeing one in the lineup. Joe? Bernie? I don't see those flying. That’s the problem, there aren’t many normal people left in the DNC. Warren or Kamala will get beaten badly. Bernie I’m not sure, but he’s prob just too old. My pick would be Beto. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted February 7, 2019 1 minute ago, tanatastic said: That’s the problem, there aren’t many normal people left in the DNC. Warren or Kamala will get beaten badly. Bernie I’m not sure, but he’s prob just too old. My pick would be Beto. I would like to see a true populist. I am of the opinion that the corporate interests have the people bent over grabbing their ankles right now. I'd like to see a candidate base their paltform on that. NOT SOCIALISM. Populism. Give the power back to the people. Bernie light if you will. Honestly, on that score, Warren says a lot of things I like. On the other hand, she says lots of crazy crap and has no legit shot anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,220 Posted February 7, 2019 Post birth abortion (I’m pro-choice, but this is insane) Socialism Open Borders Voter Fraud More Government Control over the Private Sector Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 7, 2019 The rules don't apply to them. They never met a terrorist/dictator they didn't like. They have blacks right where they want them; dependent on government and letting doctors kill their babies. #walkaway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted February 7, 2019 Just now, Filthy Fernadez said: The rules don't apply to them. They never met a terrorist/dictator they didn't like. Dems or Trump? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted February 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said: Post birth abortion (I’m pro-choice, but this is insane) Socialism Open Borders Voter Fraud More Government Control over the Private Sector I don't really know what the current flap about post birth abortion is about, or what that even is. But on its face, yeah, I'm against it. Socialism... Against it generally. In health care specifically, I'm cool with it. Voter fraud - if you think both sides aren't playing that game you're crazy. Democrats want government to run everything. Republicans want the corporations to run everything. At this point, the corporations and the government are damn near the same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,220 Posted February 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: I don't really know what the current flap about post birth abortion is about, or what that even is. But on its face, yeah, I'm against it. Socialism... Against it generally. In health care specifically, I'm cool with it. Voter fraud - if you think both sides aren't playing that game you're crazy. Democrats want government to run everything. Republicans want the corporations to run everything. At this point, the corporations and the government are damn near the same thing. Thanks for a reasonable response. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 905 Posted February 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: I don't really know what the current flap about post birth abortion is about, or what that even is. But on its face, yeah, I'm against it. Socialism... Against it generally. In health care specifically, I'm cool with it. Voter fraud - if you think both sides aren't playing that game you're crazy. Democrats want government to run everything. Republicans want the corporations to run everything. At this point, the corporations and the government are damn near the same thing. So, you are a raging socialist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,400 Posted February 7, 2019 I'm still hoping Liberals eventually assimilate to America 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,626 Posted February 7, 2019 I think "post birth abortion " speaks for itself. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted February 7, 2019 27 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I think "post birth abortion " speaks for itself. Yes, but let me throw the next SJW response....why do you hate women? What makes YOU think that YOU can decide for her...... No, its does not makes sense, but it does not have to....its leftism Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,626 Posted February 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ray Lewis's Limo Driver said: Yes, but let me throw the next SJW response....why do you hate women? What makes YOU think that YOU can decide for her...... No, its does not makes sense, but it does not have to....its leftism I was making light of Titans claiming he didn't know what it was all about or something. But yeah, they have gone too far on this one. They've been running around forever thinking they have the moral high ground. They never did, but it's not even a question now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,220 Posted February 7, 2019 I keep getting the feeling of being bamboozled by the left every time I move more progressive. Gay Rights- absolutely. Gay marriage- no problem here. Discrimination against gays- no thanks. But...I feel like as soon as the majority of society conformed with the above notions, the left immediately transitioned to transgender rights, not recognizing 2 genders and teaching their kids that they aren’t old enough to determine what gender they are. Same with abortions. If you want one, it won’t affect me and it’s none of my business, but don’t take it to the extreme of allowing abortions up to and beyond birth. That’s a variation of genocide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,082 Posted February 7, 2019 I'm just sick of everything being about identity. Race, color, creed, religion, gender, sex, etc. Every damn thing eventually dissolves to identity politics. It's maddening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said: I keep getting the feeling of being bamboozled by the left every time I move more progressive. Gay Rights- absolutely. Gay marriage- no problem here. Discrimination against gays- no thanks. But...I feel like as soon as the majority of society conformed with the above notions, the left immediately transitioned to transgender rights, not recognizing 2 genders and teaching their kids that they aren’t old enough to determine what gender they are. Same with abortions. If you want one, it won’t affect me and it’s none of my business, but don’t take it to the extreme of allowing abortions up to and beyond birth. That’s a variation of genocide. Liberties are rarely taken by force from the outside. They're taken away slowly but surely from the inside with each compromise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted February 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: I'm just sick of everything being about identity. Race, color, creed, religion, gender, sex, etc. Every damn thing eventually dissolves to identity politics. It's maddening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,285 Posted February 7, 2019 Post this at FBG. More democrats there that can answer your question. Or is this just another jerk off session? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: I'm just sick of everything being about identity. Race, color, creed, religion, gender, sex, etc. Every damn thing eventually dissolves to identity politics. It's maddening. It's because they have nothing positive for American citizens to run on. Everything they stand for is bad for the legal American human. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted February 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I was making light of Titans claiming he didn't know what it was all about or something. But yeah, they have gone too far on this one. They've been running around forever thinking they have the moral high ground. They never did, but it's not even a question now. I guess it is pretty clear, but surely it can't mean that. But yeah, it does. That's pretty focked up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted February 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, Ray Lewis's Limo Driver said: Cultural appropriation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,220 Posted February 7, 2019 55 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Post this at FBG. More democrats there that can answer your question. Or is this just another jerk off session? Sure. Then we can discuss all the positive aspects of socialism while we are over there. No thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Hand 482 Posted February 7, 2019 And now the nutjob Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wants to end air travel. Dumber than a box of rocks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 7, 2019 There’s a grave misassumption that Ds r compassionate & Rs are selfish. I used 2 believe this myself. It took time 4 me 2 see that it is infinitely more compassionate 2 teach a man 2 fish than 2 give him a fish I didn’t #WalkAway from my compassion, I walked away from my naivety Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 7, 2019 1 hour ago, supermike80 said: Post this at FBG. More democrats there that can answer your question. Or is this just another jerk off session? You can head there crybaby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted February 7, 2019 1 hour ago, supermike80 said: Post this at FBG. More democrats there that can answer your question. Or is this just another jerk off session? Nothing like posting in a thread and calling it a jerk off. Up your alley? Your specialty? Or are you just a wishful limp? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 518 Posted February 7, 2019 I just want a moderate Democrat that doesn't play identity politics. They will have my vote in '20. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites