Fears of a second civil war grow among democrat & republican pundits

[5-Points 2,726]

12 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

I remember once at my parents house, the alarm went off at 1 am for some random reason. Loud sirens and strobe lights. 

I went outside, and I could see five guys holding guns standing on the front porch. Not some piddly revolver either. Behind them, older children and the women had pieces too.

The freaking police wouldn't have a good time storming the average suburban neighborhood where I'm from. Antifa queers? Good luck with that. 

A few years ago some asshoIe was leading the police on a high speed chase. He came down my street and went around the block. He stopped one street over and started hopping fences back to my street. He ran into a house 2 doors down (turns out this dooshbag was a friend of the dooshbag kid that lived there). Seconds later (not an exaggeration) we had neighbors in the yard, guns drawn, making sure he didn't try to run before the cops got there to go in after him. 

That guy picked the wrong street to try to hide from the police. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

looting getting to be widespread in los angeles.  looters are driving up en masse and hitting supermarkets, jewelry stores, shops that are boarded up are getting looted anyway because they pull the plywood down.   long beach, santa monica, downtown all getting hit rhe past 2 days.  police say looting squads are moving to the valley in the encino and sherman oaks areas.

i passed a convoy of army trucks filled with armed troops on the 5 this morning.

we went thru the keyhole now.1  the nation is on the way to destabilizing. 

id say 100% chance of martial law.   id say theres a 60% chance the government falls. if it falls, we'll see the military run things for a while.  after that who knows.  

like i say, might be a great idea to get passports and exit the nation for a bit.  

[JustinCharge 2,397]

listening to 640 am in los angeles.  

downtown curfew today at 1pm.   entire city on lockdown as of 4pm.   national guard patrolling the city the rest of the day.  

i might have heard it wrong tho.  maybe just long beach at 1pm.  

[lod001 1,237]

CA getting what it deserves after decades of neglect and pussification.

[tubby_mcgee 686]

Antifa representatives now telling National Guard and Trump supporters to "Bring it on Mutha Fvckas" 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/officer-stood-george-floyd-died-224329297.html

The media begins to shine a light on China's racism against blacks.  This is a critical step as it is highly likely that as this situation devolves into civil war, China and Russia will ultimately support Trump and the republicans.  China will never support rioting blacks so they and Russia will fight against the democrats. And that's going to be something like 2 billion on the right vs 200 million on the left.  That's gonna be a rout in favor of the republican side.

China's argument for becoming the world superpower will be that liberalism is fundamentally racist against whites and must be destroyed.

The officer who stood by as George Floyd died is Asian American. We need to talk about that.
Kimmy Yam
NBC NewsJune 1, 2020, 3:43 PM PDT

The image of now-fired Hmong American police officer Tou Thao, standing with his back turned as George Floyd died last Monday in Minneapolis police custody, has ignited a discussion around how to approach the topic of anti-blackness in the Asian American community.

Thao has been described by activists as a symbol of Asian American complicity in anti-blackness following the death of Floyd, a black man who begged for his life while then-officer Derek Chauvin dug his knee into his neck.

Minneapolis police identified former officers Thomas Lane and J. Alexander Kueng — in addition to Thao, who has a history of involvement in use-of-force incidents— as also being involved in Floyd’s detainment.

Several experts expressed that this is a pivotal moment for Asian Americans to tackle the subject in a productive way, beginning with unpacking the biases in their own communities by first confronting the historical context behind anti-blackness. Kabzuag Vaj, founder of Freedom Inc., a nonprofit that aims to end violence toward minorities, women and the LGBTQ community, underscored the importance of acknowledging that while Asian Americans deal with their own forms of oppression, it is incomparable to what the black community confronts.

Tensions between the black and the Asian communities have long existed. The strained relations stem, in part, from being set in opposition to one another throughout American history, Vaj said. One of the most glaring examples is the Los Angeles riots that followed the acquittal of four white police officers for use of excessive force in the videotaped beating of Rodney King, a black construction worker. Businesses sustained roughly $1 billion in damage, with roughly half being Korean-owned. Divisions between immigrant Korean business owners and their black customers widened.

 

 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

1 minute ago, riversco said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/officer-stood-george-floyd-died-224329297.html

The media begins to shine a light on China's racism against blacks.  This is a critical step as it is highly likely that as this situation devolves into civil war, China and Russia will ultimately support Trump and the republicans.  China will never support rioting blacks so they and Russia will fight against the democrats. And that's going to be something like 2 billion on the right vs 200 million on the left.  That's gonna be a rout in favor of the republican side. 

The officer who stood by as George Floyd died is Asian American. We need to talk about that.
Kimmy Yam
NBC NewsJune 1, 2020, 3:43 PM PDT

The image of now-fired Hmong American police officer Tou Thao, standing with his back turned as George Floyd died last Monday in Minneapolis police custody, has ignited a discussion around how to approach the topic of anti-blackness in the Asian American community.

Thao has been described by activists as a symbol of Asian American complicity in anti-blackness following the death of Floyd, a black man who begged for his life while then-officer Derek Chauvin dug his knee into his neck.

Minneapolis police identified former officers Thomas Lane and J. Alexander Kueng — in addition to Thao, who has a history of involvement in use-of-force incidents— as also being involved in Floyd’s detainment.

Several experts expressed that this is a pivotal moment for Asian Americans to tackle the subject in a productive way, beginning with unpacking the biases in their own communities by first confronting the historical context behind anti-blackness. Kabzuag Vaj, founder of Freedom Inc., a nonprofit that aims to end violence toward minorities, women and the LGBTQ community, underscored the importance of acknowledging that while Asian Americans deal with their own forms of oppression, it is incomparable to what the black community confronts.

Tensions between the black and the Asian communities have long existed. The strained relations stem, in part, from being set in opposition to one another throughout American history, Vaj said. One of the most glaring examples is the Los Angeles riots that followed the acquittal of four white police officers for use of excessive force in the videotaped beating of Rodney King, a black construction worker. Businesses sustained roughly $1 billion in damage, with roughly half being Korean-owned. Divisions between immigrant Korean business owners and their black customers widened.

 

 

There are numerous images on chinese social media today where they photoshop the chinese flag into people's hands and change signs to "help us china."

You better believe after all our posturing and moralizing on the Hong Kong riots, they are absolutely loving this.

[Big Guy 1,400]

Antifa needs to leave the planet soon in body bags

[Utilit99 4,099]

Just now, Big Guy said:

Antifa needs to leave the planet soon in body bags

All I can say is Trump better win White House again this year or Antifa may soon be on LinkedIn recruiting half the country into their ranks. 

[12th Man 884]

1 hour ago, tubby_mcgee said:

Antifa representatives now telling National Guard and Trump supporters to "Bring it on Mutha Fvckas" 

Be careful what you ask for

 

 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

4 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

There are numerous images on chinese social media today where they photoshop the chinese flag into people's hands and change signs to "help us china."

You better believe after all our posturing and moralizing on the Hong Kong riots, they are absolutely loving this.

Like I say, if the US destabilizes (and it pretty much is now), China and Russia have NO CHOICE.  They MUST invade the US.  If they don't, it means some random whackjob can get the nukes.  They'll have to invade and restore order to protect the nukes.  And they are gonna side with Trump and the republicans.  And who cares if 200 million Americans protest that, they can send 400 million chinese.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

2 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

All I can say is Trump better win White House again this year or Antifa may soon be on LinkedIn recruiting half the country into their ranks. 

The left is committing suicide here.  Either they lose this civil unrest to Trump, or the world is gonna come in and put the democrats down. 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Just now, riversco said:

Like I say, if the US destabilizes (and it pretty much is now), China and Russia have NO CHOICE.  They MUST invade the US.  If they don't, it means some random whackjob can get the nukes.  They'll have to invade and restore order to protect the nukes.  And they are gonna side with Trump and the republicans.  And who cares if 200 million Americans protest that, they can send 400 million chinese.

Neither Russia nor China CAN invade the US so long as the US navy and Air force exist.

Neither of them has anywhere near the ability to project power anywhere near that far, even if the opponent were much weaker. They couldn't successfully invade Mexico, let alone the US.

Now, if things deteriorate to the point where the military is somehow focked up, split among waring rival factions... Even then, highly doubtful.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

3 minutes ago, riversco said:

Like I say, if the US destabilizes (and it pretty much is now), China and Russia have NO CHOICE.  They MUST invade the US.  If they don't, it means some random whackjob can get the nukes.  They'll have to invade and restore order to protect the nukes.  And they are gonna side with Trump and the republicans.  And who cares if 200 million Americans protest that, they can send 400 million chinese.

Not to mention the fact that both countries are kind of like ancient Sparta. Whatever military strength they may have, they are afraid to send it too far from home, as they fear their own. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

2 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Neither Russia nor China CAN invade the US so long as the US navy and Air force exist.

Neither of them has anywhere near the ability to project power anywhere near that far, even if the opponent were much weaker. They couldn't successfully invade Mexico, let alone the US.

Now, if things deteriorate to the point where the military is somehow focked up, split among waring rival factions... Even then, highly doubtful.

That's what I've been saying, the nation will split in half.  China and Russia will offer an alliance with the republican half and it'll be accepted.  The left half gets bent.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

2 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Not to mention the fact that both countries are kind of like ancient Sparta. Whatever military strength they may have, they are afraid to send it too far from home, as they fear their own. 

As I said, they MUST do it.  If they don't, god knows who gets control of the nuclear stockpile. 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

1 minute ago, riversco said:

That's what I've been saying, the nation will split in half.  China and Russia will offer an alliance with the republican half and it'll be accepted.  The left half gets bent.

That is still well in the realm of fantasy at this point.

And hell, even the liberal half would have well enough military power to defend its own turf. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Just now, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

That is still well in the realm of fantasy at this point.

And hell, even the liberal half would have well enough military power to defend its own turf. 

There won't be turf.  Just chaos.  Its not like north vs south.  Its scattershot all over the place.  China and Russia coming in restores order.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,626]

NYC is having its worst night yet. Why wasn’t manhattan shut down? It’s a fockin island. We did it during 9/11. 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Just now, riversco said:

As I said, they MUST do it.  If they don't, god knows who gets control of the nuclear stockpile. 

But... They can't. Hell, Russia can't even control who gets ITS OWN nuclear stockpile half the time.

You do realize that the US navy and airforce are the #1 and #2 Air forces in the world. Have the rest of the world outgunned in navy combined several times over.

The only reason Taiwan has never come to military blows yet is because it would have been a trouncing. And that is so close to their coast you can see it from a tall building, not 7,000 miles away on out turf.

It isn't possible. Even if the US split into 4 factions, each faction would be among the top 5 military powers. 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

2 minutes ago, riversco said:

There won't be turf.  Just chaos.  Its not like north vs south.  Its scattershot all over the place.  China and Russia coming in restores order.

Again, your missing the point... They can't come in. Simply isn't possible. They have what, 4 joke ass "aircraft carriers" combined, a couple of which can't move and one of which just caught fire.

A single us battle group would smoke their combined fleets in blue water. And we have 11. Not to mention we have a decisive nuclear advantage. 

Yes, they have 400 million men to throw at us. But unless they're damn good swimmers, fock em.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

good chat titans, i disagree but good points.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

2 minutes ago, riversco said:

good chat titans, i disagree but good points.

OK, how are you proposing this massive army transports itself from Asia to North America? America is a big place. Well armed populace. Gonna be hard to pacify.

How do they supply and feed them?

Not to mention the fact that not only is it impossible, it would be moronic. Nothing would reunite the country faster than actually being invaded. It would make marching troops into Russia in the winter look smart. 

[Cdub100 3,380]

20 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

OK, how are you proposing this massive army transports itself from Asia to North America? America is a big place. Well armed populace. Gonna be hard to pacify.

How do they supply and feed them?

Not to mention the fact that not only is it impossible, it would be moronic. Nothing would reunite the country faster than actually being invaded. It would make marching troops into Russia in the winter look smart. 

Riverso thinks everything is falling apart. It's not. Pay no mind.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

3 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Riverso thinks everything is falling apart. It's not. Pay no mind.

Oh its falling apart alright. Just not quite into the alternative history orson Welles level yet.

In 100 years? Maybe. 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,626]

It’s time to let black people do whatever they want in their own communities.  Protect the kids and the old people. Let the rest do as they please. Open a business? Make sure you have a gun first. Sick of this nonsense. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

19 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s time to let black people do whatever they want in their own communities.  Protect the kids and the old people. Let the rest do as they please. Open a business? Make sure you have a gun first. Sick of this nonsense. 

I'm afraid if the rioters sense weakness like that, then they would come for everything you own.  You refuse to defend it, after all.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

58 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Nothing would reunite the country faster than actually being invaded. It would make marching troops into Russia in the winter look smart. 

This is obviously untrue.

When the french came to help fight alongside the revolution in 1776, the country didn't suddenly unite against the revolution.  When the US landed in France on D-day, France didn't unite against the US.  The left has more Americans on its side.  That doesn't mean they win.  It just means the republican faction needs to find foreign powers willing to help.  And Russia and China will.  Its just the normal way of doing business.  The right probably just needs 25% of the public on its side.

The right is heavy heavy HEAVY favorites to come out of this with full control of the nation.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

19 minutes ago, riversco said:

This is obviously untrue.

When the french came to help fight alongside the revolution in 1776, the country didn't suddenly unite against the revolution.  When the US landed in France on D-day, France didn't unite against the US.  The left has more Americans on its side.  That doesn't mean they win.  It just means the republican faction needs to find foreign powers willing to help.  And Russia and China will.  Its just the normal way of doing business.  The right probably just needs 25% of the public on its side.

The right is heavy heavy HEAVY favorites to come out of this with full control of the nation.

When the French came in 1776, they were interfering in a squabble between colonies that had never been independant and their enemy.

In 1945, the French did not unite against the Americans because we were liberating them from foreign occupation.

Both cases are radically different from a proud nation of 200 years resisting foreign invasion and occupation.

Throw in the inevitable looting and rapes and murders that would accompany said invasion and yeah, there would be unity pretty damn fast. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

30 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

When the French came in 1776, they were interfering in a squabble between colonies that had never been independant and their enemy.

In 1945, the French did not unite against the Americans because we were liberating them from foreign occupation.

Both cases are radically different from a proud nation of 200 years resisting foreign invasion and occupation.

Throw in the inevitable looting and rapes and murders that would accompany said invasion and yeah, there would be unity pretty damn fast. 

Hey no two wars are exactly alike so you can find differences no matter what I say.  The situations don't have to be exact.  I think you're making a fairly weak argument here.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

We've got a fairly new development tonite.  China is edging towards taking the side of Trump and the republicans.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-did-china-iran-opposite-182600645.html

Why Did China and Iran Take Opposite Sides On America’s Protests?
Matthew Petti
The National InterestJune 1, 2020, 11:26 AM PDT

But the Global Times, a newspaper run by China’s ruling Communist Party, seemed to bash the protests as it portrayed American and Chinese dissenters alike as a lawless horde.

“The Chinese government has not shown any support for the riots in the U.S. I hope that Americans notice Beijing’s restraint,” said Global Times editor-in-chief Hu Xijin in a video message. “Burning police stations, blocking roads, smashing shops, and destroying public facilities in Minneapolis and other places are exactly the same violence in the Hong Kong demonstrations.”

 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/01/opinion/trump-george-floyd-police-brutality.html

Well I used to be mocked for saying were on the brink.  Krugman is on board now.

Trump Takes Us to the Brink
Will weaponized racism destroy America?

By Paul Krugman
Opinion Columnist
June 1, 2020

Last fall Bob Kroll, the head of the Minneapolis police union, appeared at a Trump rally, where he thanked the president for ending Barack Obama’s “oppression of police” and letting cops “put the handcuffs on criminals instead of us.”

The events of the past week, in which the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis police custody led to demonstrations against police brutality, and these demonstrations were met by more police brutality — including unprecedented violence against the news media — have made it clear what Kroll meant by taking the handcuffs off. And Donald Trump, far from trying to calm the nation, is pouring gasoline on the fire; he seems very close to trying to incite a civil war.

I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say that America as we know it is on the brink.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/laura-ingraham-riots-antifa-effort-overthrow-government

Laura Ingraham says riots are part of 'coordinated effort to eventually overthrow' the US government

Laura Ingraham opened "The Ingraham Angle" Monday by reacting to the violent protesters who she accused of trying to "murder America" as the country headed for another night of looting and violence.

"All people of good faith agree that what happened to George Floyd was heinous and depraved, it was murder," Ingraham began, "But that’s not what we are seeing on our violent streets. We are not seeing outrage really expressed about that. And that’s not what the criminals and the domestic terrorists are perpetrating as they use Mr. Floyd’s killing to try and murder America.

Ingraham said those responsible for hijacking formerly peacefuly protests are focused on creating "chaos, terror, and fear across America."

"Don’t you dare lie to the American people by saying that any of this had anything to do, at its violent core, with George Floyd," she said.

"The aim of these criminal enterprises, including Antifa, but not limited to Antifa, is to undermine confidence in our institutions of government at all levels, local, state, and federal," the host went on. "These ... acts of violence are part of a coordinated effort to eventually overthrow the United States government. It’s well-funded and it’s well organized on social media.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-don-lemon-we-are-teetering-on-a-dictatorship

CNN's Don Lemon says 'we are teetering on a dictatorship' following Trump's George Floyd address

CNN anchor Don Lemon offered a dire warning to the country following President Trump's Rose Garden address about the George Floyd protests.

On Monday evening, the president expressed sympathy over the police-involved killing of George Floyd but also wielded the power of the military, vowing to deploy armed services if states don't have the riots under control.

Lemon, who over the weekend demanded to hear from Trump after previously insisting that "nobody wants to hear" from him, indicated that he did not like what the president had to say.

He continued, "For this very moment that just happened right before our eyes, why were we pretending otherwise? Open your eyes, America. Open your eyes. We are teetering on a dictatorship. This is chaos. Has the president -- I'm listening, is the president declaring war on Americans? What is happening here? He is saying that he wants to protect peaceful protesters at the same time sending law enforcement and military into the streets to push peaceful protesters back, to be aggressive with peaceful protesters. He is doing the exact opposite of what he said in that speech."

Back in 2018, Lemon raised eyebrows with his defense of Antifa, the so-called "anti-fascist" movement that is believed to be responsible for fueling violence recent days and in previous demonstrations.

"Listen, no organization is perfect. There was some violence. No one condones violence, but there were different reasons for Antifa and for these neo-Nazis to be there," Lemon said at the time in reference to the 2017 violent clash in Charlottesville, Va. "One, racists, fascists, the other group, fighting racist fascists. There is a distinction there."

[JustinCharge 2,397]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-gloating-u-unrest-racist-090409104.html

Russia has called the rioters "muscular criminal negroes".  This article seems to try to portray Russia as against the US, although I'm not so sure.  The article claims Russia has wanted this unrest and disaster for some time, but perhaps its the liberals that have wanted it for a long time instead and Russia is just reacting to it?  Is this US bashing or US liberal bashing?  Their comments seem aligned to help Trump.

Russian Gloating About U.S. Unrest Is Racist as Hell
Julia Davis
The Daily BeastJune 1, 2020, 2:04 AM PDT

America’s heartbreak brought considerable joy to Vladimir Putin’s Russia, but the gloating also exposes the deep ugliness of his regime.

Russian reporters covering protests on American soil appear to sympathize with the protesters, but state media reports for domestic audiences tell an entirely different story.

War correspondent Dmitry Steshin authored a despicably racist article for the Russian tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda, purporting to give advice to the American protesters. His mockery of the ongoing protests in the United States made references to “muscular criminal Negroes,” described “twerking” as the “national Negro dance,” recommended the use of amphetamines, and called for blood, with as many deaths as possible.

Russia’s 60 Minutes provided another glimpse into a typical session of U.S.-bashing, when host Evgeny Popov blatantly lied, saying: “Russia doesn’t have such levels of poverty as the United States,” then claimed, “Russia doesn’t have any cities the police cannot enter. Not one. I can name at least ten such cities in America. Ten no-go cities for the police, which they can enter only in APC’s (Armored Personnel Carriers) and fully armed.” Needless to say, he cited no examples.

Instead of siding with the protesters, Russian state media focused on the benefits Trump may be able to reap once he is able to crush the uprising. Political scientist Vladimir Kornilov suggested, “It would be better for Trump to wait it out—just not too long—to terrorize a significant part of the society; 83 percent of the Minnesotans are white, a great majority. That’s why he should wait it out, to create fear and terror. And then he can ride in on a white horse as someone who will restore order. That will be very important for him right now, especially in light of the economic difficulties.”

“This is to Trump’s benefit,” concurred Sergei Markov, a political consultant to the Kremlin.

 

 

 

[nzoner 936]

Fairly sure I've stated this before but the part of Missouri I live has a bunch of good ole boys and the ones that I know are locked and loaded just hoping something breaks out in this area.

[Cdub100 3,380]

14 hours ago, riversco said:

I'm afraid if the rioters sense weakness like that, then they would come for everything you own.  You refuse to defend it, after all.

They already have the police taking a knee and politicians telling the cops to stand down. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

We're seeing the dividing lines for the upcoming civil war take shape.

Rank and file cops will be on the republican side.
The police bureaucracy will be on the democrat side.

Military leadership will be on the democrat side.
Rank and file military will be on the republican side.

Also, LOL at Mattis falsely claiming that "Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people" when Mattis RESIGNED because Trump tried to bring the troops home - something the democrats have wanted forever.  Trump was granting the democrats' eternal request and Mattis resigns over it and then claims Trump never reaches across the aisle.  What a joke.

--------------------------

 

https://news.yahoo.com/75-old-man-shoved-ground-142946876.html

Buffalo cops resign from unit in protest after two of their own are suspended for injuring 75-year-old

by: Associated Press, Kacey Montoya
Posted: Jun 5, 2020 / 03:54 PM PDT    / Updated: Jun 5, 2020 / 08:11 PM PDT    

ALBANY, N.Y. – An entire unit of the Buffalo Police Department resigned from their assignments Friday after two officers were suspended amid outcry over video showing officers shoving a 75-year-old man to the ground, according to the Buffalo News and other media outlets.

All 57 of the members of the department's Emergency Response Team resigned from the unit, which responds to riots and other crowd control situations, according to the outlets. The Emergency Response Team members have not quit the police department, but have stepped down from the tactical unit, the Buffalo News reported.

-------------------

https://ktla.com/news/l-a-police-union-calls-garcetti-unstable-after-mayors-comments-calling-officers-killers/

L.A. police union calls Garcetti ‘unstable’ after mayor’s comments calling officers ‘killers’
by: Associated Press, Kacey Montoya
Posted: Jun 5, 2020 / 03:54 PM PDT    / Updated: Jun 5, 2020 / 08:11 PM PDT    

The outrage over George Floyd’s death arrived at Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti’s front door in the form of hundreds of protesters gathered outside his home, loudly chanting to gut funding for the police department.

There was anger about curfews and the use of rubber bullets by police to disperse protesters. The mayor also heard calls for the resignation of police Chief Michel Moore.

It was the kind of pained outcry the popular mayor who was born and raised in Los Angeles has rarely seen since taking office seven years ago, much less at the threshold of his home.

Garcetti responded Wednesday by announcing the city would abruptly reverse plans for boosting LAPD’s spending and instead redirect $250 million from the city budget into programs for health care, jobs and “healing” aimed largely at the black community.

His decision came with a price. Los Angeles’ police union Friday labeled Garcetti “unstable” and accused him of political pandering after he referred to “killers” in remarks about the proposed spending change.

The union saw that remark directed at them, and warned the cut in spending would lead to more crime. The Democratic mayor “smeared every single police officer in Los Angeles and across the nation by calling us killers,” union board member Jamie McBride said. It’s “offensive. It’s wrong.”

-----------------

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/05/john-kelly-criticizes-trump-threat-to-use-armed-forces-on-protests.html

John Kelly criticizes Trump threat to use armed forces to quell protests
Published Fri, Jun 5 20205:36 PM EDTUpdated Fri, Jun 5 20205:57 PM EDT

WASHINGTON — Former White House chief of staff John Kelly said Friday that he did not agree with President Donald Trump’s threat to deploy active-duty U.S. military as the nation braced for another week of planned protests over the death of George Floyd.

“The troops hate it, they don’t see it as their job, they don’t want to be used in that way,” Kelly told Anthony Scaramucci, former White House communications director, during a livestreamed interview. “Now, natural disasters are a different story, hurricanes, earthquakes, we lean forward in the U.S. military to help,” he added, saying that the civil unrest in the United States are “domestic issues.”

------------------

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/03/mattis-trump-letter-protest-299562

Mattis goes after Trump: The president ‘tries to divide us’
The former Defense secretary blasts military leaders.

By LARA SELIGMAN and DANIEL LIPPMAN
06/03/2020 06:43 PM EDT
Updated: 06/04/2020 08:57 AM EDT

Former Defense Secretary Jim Mattis broke his silence on the conduct of President Donald Trump on Wednesday, blasting him and top military leaders and saying he is “angry and appalled” with the events of the past week.

“Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people — does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership,” Mattis said in a statement sent to reporters Wednesday evening.

This marked Mattis' first public criticism of his former boss since the retired Marine Corps general resigned in December 2018 over Trump's decision to pull U.S. troops from Syria.

[Voltaire 4,556]

I have respect for Mattis as a field general and will separate that part of his career and save it from criticism.  But he's at core a neocon globalist who had no business having such a prominent post in President Trump's White House and everything he did in Washington was and continues to be focked up. A$$hole.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,513]

1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

I have respect for Mattis as a field general and will separate that part of his career and save it from criticism.  But he's at core a neocon globalist who had no business having such a prominent post in President Trump's White House and everything he did in Washington was and continues to be focked up. A$$hole.

Yeah, this caught me by surprise as well.  We're letting mob rule ruin this country and he takes its side. 

Very disappointed, especially since I am a Marine.  Had greater expectations for him and Marines in general.

I don't think the other side wants unity - they want power by any means necessary (and all of our money).  It's not about justice, equality or fairness.  Its simply about pure, raw, unadulterated and complete power to impose a Socialist/Communist agenda.