Andrew Yang...Dem Candidate

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579]

actually seems like a better candidate than I have seen from the left.  Is very libertarian on a lot of stuff and very jobs and wealth creation oriented

really good interview, hopefully this boosts him to the stage.  For the first time, a candidate actually explains universal income logically, and it doesnt sound half bad.  Need to learn more, but hes the first candidate I have seen from the left that has me actually interested.

also kudos for him for actually going on a racist bigoted nazi's podcast show

[Drizzay 645]

I listened to him on Joe Rogan's show.

 

The UBI stuff still doesn't make sense to me.  But he did have some good points about the trucking industry.

[Voltaire 4,558]

One of the better ones for sure, has staked out positions on a lot of stuff. Hopefully he catches some momentum as the Dems could use sanity.

[lod001 1,237]

He's a smart guy so he's got no shot. They like to nominate retards.

[Voltaire 4,558]

6 minutes ago, lod001 said:

He's a smart guy so he's got no shot. They like to nominate retards.

Not so. Hillary, Obama, Kerry, Gore, Bill, Dukakis, Mondale, Carter... where's the retard?

You could say that they like insider, establishment types, but then Obama had beaten Hillary.

[Cdub100 3,380]

10 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Not so. Hillary, Obama, Kerry, Gore, Bill, Dukakis, Mondale, Carter... where's the retard?

You could say that they like insider, establishment types, but then Obama had beaten Hillary.

That's a long list of losers. And one guy who was part of a criminal act a thousand times worse than Watergate

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579]

42 minutes ago, Drizzay said:

I listened to him on Joe Rogan's show.

 

The UBI stuff still doesn't make sense to me.  But he did have some good points about the trucking industry.

it didnt, til I heard him explain what his goal is to achieve.  Basically high sales taxes, low income tax long term, and an added value tax.  He also basically wants to get rid of the 126 welfare programs that exist.  Would cost about 1.3 trillion annually, but hes right in that in every american got a 1k check every month it would add to the economy and create a lot of jobs, most of that money would be spent on stuff, and he makes quite a few points I can get on board with.

honestly if I had that I would use it to expand my movie business and hire more people, and alot of people do

first 15 mins is discussing UBI and Shapiro is a better debater than Rogan obviously so gets way better questions out there

[Vikings4ever 496]

5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

it didnt, til I heard him explain what his goal is to achieve.  Basically high sales taxes, low income tax long term, and an added value tax.  He also basically wants to get rid of the 126 welfare programs that exist.  Would cost about 1.3 trillion annually, but hes right in that in every american got a 1k check every month it would add to the economy and create a lot of jobs, most of that money would be spent on stuff, and he makes quite a few points I can get on board with.

honestly if I had that I would use it to expand my movie business and hire more people, and alot of people do

first 15 mins is discussing UBI and Shapiro is a better debater than Rogan obviously so gets way better questions out there

The issue being does anyone really believe all those welfare programs would really be ended? Or would the free 1K a month just be added on?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579]

3 minutes ago, Vikings4ever said:

The issue being does anyone really believe all those welfare programs would really be ended? Or would the free 1K a month just be added on?

well I am just going by what he said, he explains is good in the interview, worth a watch.  Basics, you cant get both, if you opt into the 1k its paperwork free hassle free, but you can't be on additional welfare programs

he also explains how he envisions it being paid for, basically a tech tax.  Where as the rest of the dems just want to give you free stuff with no idea where it comes from, he has an in depth plan, and it doesn't seem like a handout

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579]

I really wish Shapiro would have just gone Crowder on him and been like, how would you deal with China, you know being Asian and all.  The guy most certainly doesn't seem like an SJW, I hope he doesn't pander

he also never once mentions increasing income tax on anyone

also hes very big on Nuclear energy

 

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579]

https://www.yang2020.com/policies/

 

hes more prepared and has clear stances on pretty much everything, and the majority I agree with  

his gun thoughts seem very reasonable

his immigration and border security seem very reasonable

 

[SenatorRock 708]

47 minutes ago, Vikings4ever said:

The issue being does anyone really believe all those welfare programs would really be ended? Or would the free 1K a month just be added on?

That is where his idea falls apart. 

There is no way you are taking the thousands of dollars a month in free shite (welfare, food stamps, section 8, etc) away from the people already getting it.

Which means the $1000/mo is only going to middle class and up.

Or the $1000/mo ends up going to everyone.

Either one of those options will just piss off half the country.

[SenatorRock 708]

Lower voting age to 16

This is probably the dumbest focking idea from anyone this season. The only reason they want to lower the voting age is because younger people are easy to brainwash and manipulate. They can't be trusted to drink, smoke, own a gun, have sex with whoever they want, join the military, or not eat tide pods. They can't even figure out if they are a male or female. Only a fool thinks they should be trusted with deciding national policies.

 

Combat Climate Change

Another idea that only appeals to brainwashed idiots who have no idea what actual science is. Start with geology.

 

Foreign Policy First

Make decisions that benefit foreign countries rather than America. No thanks, you can take your globalist propaganda and shove it up Buttplug's arse.

 

Pathway to Citizenship for Illegals

Nope nope nope.

 

Carbon Tax

More pseudo-religious propaganda. 

 

Make Puerto Rico a State

They are an island of corrupt politicians (mishandled $90 billion since Maria and want more) and third world degenerates. Anyone from PR worth a shite already moved to the US to live a better life. The leftovers are just another several million poor brown skinned people for the Democrats to make false promises to.

 

Ministry of Truth

Literally straight out of the Nazi playbook

 

The sad thing is that he has about 20+ policy ideas that I can get onboard with and would be great for the American people. But the ones listed above are nonstarters. We can say goodbye to America if they were implemented.

 

[RLLD 3,455]

1) he sat down with Shaprio.....THIS alone intrigues me, gives him considerable credibility.

2) The Democratic machine will never allow him to get on track, they will Biden him the moment he gets any traction....

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579]

10 hours ago, SenatorRock said:

Lower voting age to 16

This is probably the dumbest focking idea from anyone this season. The only reason they want to lower the voting age is because younger people are easy to brainwash and manipulate. They can't be trusted to drink, smoke, own a gun, have sex with whoever they want, join the military, or not eat tide pods. They can't even figure out if they are a male or female. Only a fool thinks they should be trusted with deciding national policies.

Agree

Combat Climate Change

Another idea that only appeals to brainwashed idiots who have no idea what actual science is. Start with geology.

Agree

Foreign Policy First

Make decisions that benefit foreign countries rather than America. No thanks, you can take your globalist propaganda and shove it up Buttplug's arse.

Agree

Pathway to Citizenship for Illegals

Nope nope nope.

I am ok with this

Carbon Tax

More pseudo-religious propaganda. 

Agree

Make Puerto Rico a State

They are an island of corrupt politicians (mishandled $90 billion since Maria and want more) and third world degenerates. Anyone from PR worth a shite already moved to the US to live a better life. The leftovers are just another several million poor brown skinned people for the Democrats to make false promises to.

Agree

Ministry of Truth

Literally straight out of the Nazi playbook

Agree

The sad thing is that he has about 20+ policy ideas that I can get onboard with and would be great for the American people. But the ones listed above are nonstarters. We can say goodbye to America if they were implemented.

Agree

literally what you linked were the major things I am against, everything else he is about I am for or ok with

I don't care if illegals get a path to citizenship, if it includes complete immigration reform and stronger border security, its actually something I have suggested myself, and something I think Republicans if they were smart would be pushing

 

[Cdub100 3,380]

1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

literally what you linked were the major things I am against, everything else he is about I am for or ok with

I don't care if illegals get a path to citizenship, if it includes complete immigration reform and stronger border security, its actually something I have suggested myself, and something I think Republicans if they were smart would be pushing

 

There is a path to citizenship. That being said just because a person wants to be here doesn't mean they get to stay here

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579]

2 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

There is a path to citizenship. That being said just because a person wants to be here doesn't mean they get to stay here

I agree I have nevertheless thought it was cost efficient to try and deport 20 million people. My suggestion has always been if you are here illegally you have 6 months to report to authorities with proof of income and to get a tax I’d number. You then can get a work vise for two years at which time you prove to us you are working and contributing to society you can then apply for citizenship and be put on a path

[Cdub100 3,380]

21 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I agree I have nevertheless thought it was cost efficient to try and deport 20 million people. My suggestion has always been if you are here illegally you have 6 months to report to authorities with proof of income and to get a tax I’d number. You then can get a work vise for two years at which time you prove to us you are working and contributing to society you can then apply for citizenship and be put on a path

If you agree then why did you say you don't care if they get a path? There is no "if", they have a path. They ignored that path and broke the law. There's a reason America is the way it is and the rest of the world sucks so much. We have laws and if you break them there are consequences. They have to go back.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579]

1 hour ago, Cdub100 said:

If you agree then why did you say you don't care if they get a path? There is no "if", they have a path. They ignored that path and broke the law. There's a reason America is the way it is and the rest of the world sucks so much. We have laws and if you break them there are consequences. They have to go back.

Because unlike everyone else who considers themselves conservative I actually look for rationale middle ground on every topic. Example I’m anti abortion but think that we should just come to terms with 1st trimester agreement. 

Honestly if our party was smart they would beat the dems at their own game and give the ones that work hard a chance to become citizens under our watch. Guaranteed voter base

i don’t think everything is black and white quite frankly I’m probably one of the most moderates around here

[Herbivore 905]

Really enjoyed that, thanks Raiders.  Not typically a fan of Ben, but might see him more on Fox where he might TV it up a bit.  I don't know, but he was quality here.  

[Cdub100 3,380]

46 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Because unlike everyone else who considers themselves conservative I actually look for rationale middle ground on every topic. Example I’m anti abortion but think that we should just come to terms with 1st trimester agreement. 

Honestly if our party was smart they would beat the dems at their own game and give the ones that work hard a chance to become citizens under our watch. Guaranteed voter base

i don’t think everything is black and white quite frankly I’m probably one of the most moderates around here

If you where actually against abortion you would be against it 100%. You can either kill a baby or you can't. There is no compromise there. You can't kill a baby just a little bit.

 

Also illegals are not going to vote for Republicans. If you allow them to side step the process we're going to have thousands if not millions of people crossing the boarder. 2. Add to the Dem voting base. 3. Overwhelm our social security nets. That's how we lost California and you can see the same plan in action in Texas.

 

 

[lod001 1,237]

57 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

If you where actually against abortion you would be against it 100%. You can either kill a baby or you can't. There is no compromise there. You can't kill a baby just a little bit.

 

Also illegals are not going to vote for Republicans. If you allow them to side step the process we're going to have thousands if not millions of people crossing the boarder. 2. Add to the Dem voting base. 3. Overwhelm our social security nets. That's how we lost California and you can see the same plan in action in Texas.

 

 

If illegals are not stopped, this country is totally fvcked for the future. 50 years from now we will look like a dogshit socialist nation of central America.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579]

1 hour ago, Cdub100 said:

If you where actually against abortion you would be against it 100%. You can either kill a baby or you can't. There is no compromise there. You can't kill a baby just a little bit.

 

Also illegals are not going to vote for Republicans. If you allow them to side step the process we're going to have thousands if not millions of people crossing the boarder. 2. Add to the Dem voting base. 3. Overwhelm our social security nets. That's how we lost California and you can see the same plan in action in Texas.

 

 

I am 100% against it. I’m just not stupid enough to believe roe v wade is ever going to be overturned. That being said we need a moderate solution

under yang those social security nets will be gone. He’s the first democrat to actually have a plan to cut back on welfare, I applaud him for that. As far as people flooding it would obviously be part of a complete immigration reform including zero more illegals allowed entry. Reagan had amnesty and it wasn’t a bad thing. As far as voters most Hispanics are conservatives by nature but the free stuff the left gives panders to them

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579]

2 hours ago, Herbivore said:

Really enjoyed that, thanks Raiders.  Not typically a fan of Ben, but might see him more on Fox where he might TV it up a bit.  I don't know, but he was quality here.  

Everytime I post actual lengthy things with Shapiro or crowder you seem to be the only one from the left willing to at least watch them. Kudos. Shapiro and crowder have both said that when they do network shows it’s just a matter of getting as much out of two minutes as possible. I think you would actually like both shapiros daily news show and crowders daily comedy show

[Herbivore 905]

1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Everytime I post actual lengthy things with Shapiro or crowder you seem to be the only one from the left willing to at least watch them. Kudos. Shapiro and crowder have both said that when they do network shows it’s just a matter of getting as much out of two minutes as possible. I think you would actually like both shapiros daily news show and crowders daily comedy show

I'll keep checking them out..keep posting the good ones.  

[kutulu 1,545]

There's a Burger King joke here somewhere 

[SenatorRock 708]

3 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I am 100% against it. I’m just not stupid enough to believe roe v wade is ever going to be overturned. That being said we need a moderate solution

under yang those social security nets will be gone. He’s the first democrat to actually have a plan to cut back on welfare, I applaud him for that. As far as people flooding it would obviously be part of a complete immigration reform including zero more illegals allowed entry. Reagan had amnesty and it wasn’t a bad thing. As far as voters most Hispanics are conservatives by nature but the free stuff the left gives panders to them

If I recall, Reagan's amnesty deal was supposed to come with immigration reform that never happened. 

Most Hispanics are conservative by nature, especially the ones who came from Mexico to work.

The problem is now we have hundreds of thousands of Central American women and children coming here, they are not going to be contributers, they will be takers.

Takers vote for liberals.

You would think they learned their lesson, the very policies that destroyed their home countries are the very policies they end up supporting in their new home.

Similar to the liberals fleeing California and New England, they leave because of failed liberal policies then vote for those same polices in FL, TN, NC, TX, CO, etc.

[bandrus1 413]

I can't look right now but says grew up in upstate NY and father worked IBM

Does he have a Binghamton connection at all

 

[kutulu 1,545]

I heard he was born in Schenectady

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579]

Bump 

[KSB2424 3,083]

He wants to eliminate the penny.

That and that alone gives him my vote.

[shorepatrol 1,737]

7 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

He wants to eliminate the penny.

That and that alone gives him my vote.

Fock off, I want my "FREE" 1k a month in pennies. Shotgun shells loaded with pennies are awsome. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579]

16 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

He wants to eliminate the penny.

That and that alone gives him my vote.

I was just talking about that. What if we eliminated the penny and every cent rounded up to the nearest dime on a purchase went to the debt how fast would that start paying it down?

[Cdub100 3,380]

35 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I was just talking about that. What if we eliminated the penny and every cent rounded up to the nearest dime on a purchase went to the debt how fast would that start paying it down?

It wouldn't make a difference because Washington would spend even more.

[shorepatrol 1,737]

6 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

It wouldn't make a difference because Washington would spend even more.

Enabling is the liberal creed. Ruining America with policy

[KSB2424 3,083]

1 hour ago, shorepatrol said:

Fock off, I want my "FREE" 1k a month in pennies. Shotgun shells loaded with pennies are awsome. 

I know you’re being funny but I’m actually open to the idea.  Only as long as Food Stamps, Welfare, Unemployment  et al. are done away with.  

Also no need for a minimum wage at all.

It actually cuts to the chase of a one size fits all safety net that theoretically would be cheaper to administer and much more difficult to cheat.

 

 

[Voltaire 4,558]

 

1 hour ago, shorepatrol said:

Fock off, I want my "FREE" 1k a month in pennies. Shotgun shells loaded with pennies are awsome. 

 You have shotgun shells big enough to load pennies inside? !?!

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579]

25 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

 

 You have shotgun shells big enough to load pennies inside? !?!

psh, you dont???